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D911
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I am based in the UK. I have Hashimoto’s disease and take both T3 and T4.

would someone please be kind enough to decipher my recent bloods?

The results have caused my GP to interfere and reduce my T4 because my TSH isn’t registering. I am EXHAUSTED of having the same argument with them explaining T3 suppresses T4.

does anyone have actual links to

1) medical guidelines explaining this

2) guidelines that mean I can have my T4 meds put back up to where they were because I felt better then without being told ‘you’ll end up with heart arhythmias and osteoporotic fractures.’

3) what test should be done as standard for someone with Hashimoto’s in UK

Thankyou for your time

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tattybogle put together this link:

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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tattybogle in reply toBuddy195

this one's better when supressed TSH is the 'problem' : healthunlocked.com/thyroidu.... /tsh-is-just-the-opinion-of-your-pituitary-about-your-dose-but-your-pituitarys-opinion-is-a-bit-warped-once-you-take-thyroid-hormone.

and this one is very useful when TSH is between 0.04 and 0.4 ( but still worth a look even if it's supressed) : healthunlocked.com/thyroidu... useful-evidence-that-tsh-between-0.04-0.4-has-no-increased-risk-to-patients-on-levothyroxine-updated-new-study-does-show-small-risk

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How much levothyroxine are you taking

Do you always get same brand at each prescription

How much T3 and which brand

Presumably you are under care of an endocrinologist, so GP shouldn’t meddle

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

Low vitamin levels are extremely common when hypothyroid, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (hashimoto’s)

what vitamin supplements are you taking

Autoimmune thyroid disease with goitre is Hashimoto’s

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Both are autoimmune and generally called Hashimoto’s.

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

T3 ….day before test split T3 as 2 or 3 smaller doses spread through the day, with last dose approximately 8-12 hours before test

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Post all about what time of day to test

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus BOTH TPO and TG antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes BOTH TPO and TG antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism

thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

Thanks (all) for your reply. I take 125mcg T4 - they constantly change the brand - its never consistent - they often dont have the full dose in stock so i regularly dont have a full dose. They KEEP trying to give me TEVA despite it being plastered all over my notes that i have a reaction to it (severe itching). I take .......

folic acid 5mg

citalopram 20mg

elleste duet 1mg

B12 injections weekly

(This months) T4 is Accord 125mcg

(This months) Mercury Pharma T3 20mcg

I previously paid privately for endo but am not in a financial position to repeat that

The last time I went to see an NHS endo - I was told that he only wanted to look at the TSH results and wasnt interested in the Free T3 or Free T4 - i havent been referred back since and that was circa 5/6 years ago

The endo diagnosed hashimotos - i dont have a visible goiter not sure whether its possible to have an non visible one?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toD911

Autoimmune thyroid disease without goitre is Ord’s thyroiditis.

Was test done as recommended, last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Day before test split T3 …..10mcg waking, 5mcg mid afternoon and 5mcg at 8pm …..assuming testing 8am next morning

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

thank you- no although test was done at 0920am - levo tick yes - t3 no - had no idea this had to be done - how does one split the pills? theyre tiny?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toD911

A sharp craft scalpel or pill cutter

Many of us split T3 everyday

Personally I always split as 4 x 5mcg daily …..6am, 11am, 5pm and 11pm

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

(off i trot to amazon......)

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

looking at my Free t3 and free T4 whats your opinion on them please?

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SlowDragonAdministrator

As you have Hashimoto’s are you on gluten free and/or dairy free diet

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

no.........it didnt feel like it made much difference?

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply toD911

Did it make any difference on GF?

Post discussing gluten

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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D911 in reply toSlowDragon

i really didnt feel like it did on either

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