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hello, I’m new here. I have been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s disease and am taking 75mg of Levothyroxine. My doctor recently messaged me at the start of December saying finally my levels are within a normal range, however I still feel really low. I’ve gained weight which I’m struggling to loose, I’m so tired and I just feel so low and tearful.

I’ve only been taking the correct dose of medication for a few months, will I start to feel better soon? Also should I be taking supplements and changing my diet since receiving this diagnosis?

Any help would be much appreciated, thank you

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Welcome to the forum SophieJ1,

So we can offer better advice, can you share blood test results (with ranges in brackets) for:

TSH

FT3

FT4

Plus any antibody and key vitamin tests (ferritin, folate, vitamins D and B12)

If your GP is unable to complete all the above (eg if TSH is within range, some surgeries may not be able to access FT4 and FT3 tests), you could look to do this privately, as many forum members do, for a better picture of your thyroid health:

thyroiduk.org/help-and-supp...

Please do not supplement before testing key vitamin levels & sharing results with us. It may be worth having a look at Medichecks advanced test, as there is currently 20% off in January.

I, like many other members, only felt well when both thyroid medication and key vitamins were optimal. It’s important to remember that when GPs say ‘normal’ or ‘within range’ this may not be the same as optimal.

Do keep posting if you need further advice or support. We are a friendly & helpful forum! 🦋

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SophieJ1 in reply toBuddy195

Thank you Buddy195

The only results I have are these which were taken in September, this is when they changed my dose from 25mg to 75mg

Thyroid peroxidase antibody

Your Value

>1,300 iu/ml

Standard Range

0 - 60 iu/ml

I’ll definitely message my gp tomorrow to ask for all my results, thank you.

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Buddy195Administrator in reply toSophieJ1

Positive TPO indicates your thyroid issues are auto immune, aka Hashimotos.

Have you ever had a coeliac test?

Many members with Hashimotos, myself included, have hugely benefited from being gluten- free. It is certainly worth a GF trial for a couple of months to see if this helps you. Some members like to have coeliac test prior to a trial. I’m not coeliac but am certainly gluten intolerant and would 100% not touch it again (as my digestion issues fully resolved by adopting GF).

Top patient to patient tip for blood tests is to take Levothyroxine AFTER the blood draw and ensure that the blood draw is before 9am (as this gives highest TSH reading/ which GPs often regard as the holy grail when medicating)

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SophieJ1 in reply toBuddy195

I have never had a test, but I’m going to do what you suggest and cut it out for a couple of months to see if I notice a difference.

Thank you for the tip, I’ll remember this for my next blood test!

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GPs invariably only test TSH and FT4. I recommend you look to test FT3 and key vitamins privately if not available through your GP. This will ensure you have a complete picture of your thyroid health.

Many forum members (myself included) test privately and then post results in the forum for advice and support. It is advisable to read posts on completing a home test kit if you choose to test privately, as a finger prick draw can appear rather daunting (but you get more proficient in time if you follow forum tips!)

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You GP should test for coeliac BEFORE you try gluten free diet

nice.org.uk/guidance/ng20/c...

1.1 Recognition of coeliac disease

1.1.1 Offer serological testing for coeliac disease to:

people with any of the following:

persistent unexplained abdominal or gastrointestinal symptoms

faltering growth

prolonged fatigue

unexpected weight loss

severe or persistent mouth ulcers

unexplained iron, vitamin B12 or folate deficiency

type 1 diabetes, at diagnosis

autoimmune thyroid disease, at diagnosis

irritable bowel syndrome (in adults)

first‑degree relatives of people with coeliac disease.

Hashimoto's affects the gut and leads to low stomach acid and then low vitamin levels

Low vitamin levels affect Thyroid hormone working

Poor gut function can lead leaky gut (literally holes in gut wall) this can cause food intolerances.

Most common by far is gluten.

Dairy is second most common.

A trial of strictly gluten free diet is always worth doing

Only 5% of Hashimoto’s patients test positive for coeliac but a further 81% of Hashimoto’s patients who try gluten free diet find noticeable or significant improvement or find it’s essential

A strictly gluten free diet helps or is essential due to gluten intolerance (no test available) or due to leaky gut and gluten causing molecular mimicry (see Amy Myers link)

Changing to a strictly gluten free diet may help reduce symptoms, help gut heal and may slowly lower TPO antibodies

While still eating high gluten diet ask GP for coeliac blood test first or buy test online for under £20, just to rule it out first

Assuming test is negative you can immediately go on strictly gluten free diet 

(If test is positive you will need to remain on high gluten diet until endoscopy, maximum 6 weeks wait officially) 

Trying gluten free diet for 3-6 months. If no noticeable improvement then reintroduce gluten and see if symptoms get worse

chriskresser.com/the-gluten...

amymyersmd.com/2018/04/3-re...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

drknews.com/changing-your-d...

Non Coeliac Gluten sensitivity (NCGS) and autoimmune disease

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/296...

The predominance of Hashimoto thyroiditis represents an interesting finding, since it has been indirectly confirmed by an Italian study, showing that autoimmune thyroid disease is a risk factor for the evolution towards NCGS in a group of patients with minimal duodenal inflammation. On these bases, an autoimmune stigma in NCGS is strongly supported

nuclmed.gr/wp/wp-content/up...

In summary, whereas it is not yet clear whether a gluten free diet can prevent autoimmune diseases, it is worth mentioning that HT patients with or without CD benefit from a diet low in gluten as far as the progression and the potential disease complications are concerned

restartmed.com/hashimotos-g...

Despite the fact that 5-10% of patients have Celiac disease, in my experience and in the experience of many other physicians, at least 80% + of patients with Hashimoto's who go gluten-free notice a reduction in their symptoms almost immediately.

Similarly few months later consider trying dairy free too. Approx 50-60% find dairy free beneficial

With loads of vegan dairy alternatives these days it’s not as difficult as in the past

Post discussing gluten

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

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SophieJ1 in reply toSlowDragon

Thank you, lots of information there. I will ask if my GP is able to test for Coeliac disease before I try a GF diet, if not I will pay for a private test to see where I’m at. So far since diagnosis for Hashimotos I have not changed anything and have not noticed any of my symptoms improving. From what I have been reading it seems diet is key for improvement, I just wasn’t sure where to begin. Thank you for your help and suggestions

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The only results I have are these which were taken in September, this is when they changed my dose from 25mg to 75mg

You are legally entitled to printed copies of your blood test results and ranges.

The best way to get access to current and historic blood test results is to register for online access to your medical record and blood test results

UK GP practices are supposed to offer everyone online access for blood test results. Ring and ask if this is available and apply to do so if possible, if it is you may need "enhanced access" to see blood results.

Link re access

patients-association.org.uk...

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

In reality some GP surgeries still do not have blood test results online yet

Alternatively ring receptionist and request printed copies of results. Allow couple of days and then go and pick up.

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose or brand change in levothyroxine

Which brand of levothyroxine are you currently taking

Recommended that all thyroid blood tests early morning, ideally just before 9am, only drink water between waking and test and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

For full Thyroid evaluation you need TSH, FT4 and FT3 tested

Also both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested at least once

Very important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12 at least once year minimum

If GP is unhelpful

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

Testing options and includes money off codes for private testing

thyroiduk.org/testing/

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Only do private testing early Monday or Tuesday morning.

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/testing/thyro...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

Symptoms of hypothyroidism

thyroiduk.org/signs-and-sym...

Tips on how to do DIY finger prick test

support.medichecks.com/hc/e...

Medichecks and BH also offer private blood draw at clinic near you, or private nurse to your own home…..for an extra fee

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