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2 professors debating, and an online poll, on T3/T4 combination. Please vote!

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Are you on Twitter? There's an online poll connected to two professors debating whether "patients on levothyroxine treated hypothyroidism with symptoms should be treated with T3/T4 combination." You might like to vote now! It ends tomorrow

twitter.com/docwas/status/1...

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humanbean profile image
humanbean

I don't actually see a debate. I just see a poll.

Where are the professors actually doing their debating?

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FancyPants54 in reply to humanbean

They are going to debate it, not happened yet. Not sure where, I didn't notice and must now go home.

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TaraJR in reply to humanbean

I don't know if it's a virtual or face to face debate. But at least we patients can vote, for what it's worth! Since this was shared on various groups, the number voting 'FOR' has increased a lot. It's worth a go!

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humanbean in reply to TaraJR

I don't actually have a Twitter account so I can't see the results or actually vote on the poll .

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AnneEvo in reply to humanbean

Same here. Pity the poll is only on Twitter.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to AnneEvo

If it were here, the answer would be a foregone conclusion.

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FancyPants54

Thanks. There are some good comments on there. I hope they read them before they hold the debate.

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Shellian

Saw this poll yesterday and voted straight away. I've never had the opportunity to try T3 but I am sure it would make a difference.

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Zephyrbear

Ooh… the results are certainly vastly different from the way they were yesterday when I first voted! I’m glad to see they’re now tilted in the right direction!

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Decant

Nearly 89% for. As someone who sources t3 privately I know it makes an improvement to my energy and brain fog.

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tattybogle

;) ;) ;)

TaniaSonaSmith ( thyroidpatientscanada author) Replying to @docwas@unibirmingham

"Next, let's debate whether T3-lowering PTU medication should be prescribed to anti-T3 physicians with healthy thyroids who voted "against" this question.

If you vote to continue stealing T3 from thyroid-disabled people, you should see what it's like to have your own T3 stolen"

11:50 pm · 31 Mar 2023

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TaraJR in reply to tattybogle

Brilliant!

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nightingale-56 in reply to tattybogle

I agree with Tania's thoughts on this and so sensible to put the date of the post tattybogle

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Hashiboy

Hi TaraJR thanks for that. I deleted Twitter a while back but please let me know how that turns out.

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humanbean in reply to Hashiboy

You don't need a Twitter account to read public tweets.

Obviously you can't reply without an account, and I've noticed that Poll results are not visible either. But just reading is enough for me.

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Hashiboy in reply to humanbean

Thanks, I'll give it a try humanbean just checked out the comments and like big the outpouring of patient voices in favour of T3.

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tattybogle in reply to humanbean

i just read them too cos i don't want to join twitter.. so i just went though Prof Wasim Hanif 's twitter page back as far as Nov to see what his interests are ( as he's the bloke who posted this poll )

and ..... his interests appear to be:

50% diabetes

30 % cricket

19.99% motor racing

0.01% thyroid ( this poll is the only mention of thyroid i could find )

Why is someone who plainly has 'bugger all' interest in the thyroid so interested in making a poll about whether thyroid patients should be allowed to try any T3 ........

"more cynical by the day i am "

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TaraJR in reply to tattybogle

As succinct as ever! Realistic rather than cynical I think.

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Polo22 in reply to tattybogle

maybe he has interests in pharmaceutical supplies ,

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Misstee2

I voted. Currently it stands at 91% in favour and 9% against.

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TaraJR in reply to Misstee2

Patients like us have made a huge difference in the voting. Let's see if any drs comment afterwards... The poll ends soon.

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humanbean in reply to TaraJR

Could you post the results for us non-twitter users after the poll has finished, please.

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TaraJR in reply to humanbean

Yes of course

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TaraJR

The poll ended this afternoon "debate patients on levothyroxine treated hypothyroidism with symptoms should be treated with T3/T4 combination"

Result... 91% in favour, 9% against.

Patients have had a great input into this 'poll', and have added numerous comments.

Hopefully at least some of the endos in the twitter thread will read them. I think they'll be surprised at the vote.

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crabapple in reply to TaraJR

I'm not on twitter. Thank you for posting results. Wow!

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Stourie in reply to TaraJR

do you think the9% are doctors?

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TaraJR in reply to Stourie

Probably!

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crabapple

Looks like it was a game. humanbean FancyPants54 tattybogle helvella Hashiboy Zephyrbear nightingale-56

See here

birmingham.ac.uk/research/m...

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TaraJR in reply to crabapple

Thank you for this. It was a 'set debate' format then and they also put it on Twitter. I'd LOVE to hear the outcome of the actual debate.

Hopefully the poll result and comments will be seen, or shared, by participants to show the depth of feeling amongst patients.

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tattybogle in reply to crabapple

excellent rabbiting (ferriting ?) skills crabapple :)

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crabapple in reply to tattybogle

I just wanted to know why. I remember the re-run of the American debate which was then filmed and put on youtube: it was hard to believe it wasn't for that pupose.

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crabapple

Went down the rabbit-hole...

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Milkyway88

I can’t see where to vote? Just the results.

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TaraJR in reply to Milkyway88

No, it ended yesterday. Through patients voting (!) the poll ended with 91% in favour, and 9% against. It had started out very much different!

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Regenallotment

this is what the final results looks like for those that don’t have Twitter. Fab to hear there will be a debate for fun by endocrinologists. They can’t ignore the patient feedback here.

Screenshot of Twitter poll showing 91% pollsters in favour of T3 /T4 combination therapy

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