Hello I'm on Levothyroxine 75mcg (Teva - it may not be helping much) and symptomatic. Here are my blood results, would someone be able to help me with them?
I'm going to be doing a saliva cortisol test and also of note is that the B12 is not the active one. I also have the MTHFR gene (for what it's worth) but I'm not able to piece that into the blood result picture, as I don't understand enough.
Many thanks!
hey, looks to me like you could do with an increase to 100mcg, maybe ask for a trial. I found the last increase for me made all the difference.
Folate is hard to raise with MTHFR, I found a methylated folate supplement 400iu really helped, took it on top of B Complex for about 3 months. Also, if you already take a B Complex and stop it for testing you can take the methylfolate instead and keep levels up.
Ferritin can be more difficult to raise if you are a menstruating female. Get on the red meat and liver 💕
D could go up a bit more. Do you already take D3 with K2 and magnesium?
Other things that helped improve my symptoms (still work in progress) is going dairy and gluten free (helped with absorption and gut health) I noticed you don’t have antibodies so not autoimmune. Unless you have been in the past.
also being vigilant with tablet taking and gaps with food and vits. Helps to ensure you get the maximum benefit possible from the tablets.
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I asked the gp for Levo increase last Nov and they refused, I explained about the ranges and they still refused...not sure where to go from here with the Levo. I will ask for a trial though I think.
Vit D - an incredible thing I just found out: I was on a brand of 1000 per spray on 4 sprays a day. When it ran out last autumn I replaced it with a different brand. The new brand was 3000 per spray and I didnlt notice. So from last Nov I've been having 12 000 DAILY. And my level is only at 80...I find that amazing. Definitely going to try and go higher now you've suggested it.
I don;t take K2 and magnesium but will ask the nutritionst I see (uses bio resonance machine) about those. I do have epsom salt baths.
I will definitely be more vigilant with gluten asn I know it's a problem for me. What are the suggesitons for best time for tablet taking? I haven't been aware of that (only about 17 years of levo oh dear!).
Re Ferritin I'm more or less though menopause I think or will be later this year - are you suggesiing I try to increase the level even though I'm not menstruating?
Cheers.
Hello Sneedle :
We generally feel at our best when our T4 - which is a storage hormone - is in the top quadrant of the range as this should in theory then convert to a decent level of T3 - the active hormone - at around a 1/4 ratio T3/T4.
It is too low a T3 for you that causes the symptoms of hypothyroidism so if you can maintain a higher dose of T4 - your T3 reading should slowly rise and relieve your symptoms.
We seem to start to feel better when T4 is around 80/90% through the range with T3 tracking behind at around 60/70% through the range.
When the T4 is so low in the range the T3 reading will be somewhat protected as this is the most important of the 2 readings and the active hormone that your body runs on - though T3 will be compromised when there isn't enough stored T4 to utilise and convert as and when needed.
Your T4 is at around 35% through the range so suggest if with symptoms of hypothyroidism ( full list of symptoms found on the Thyroid UK website - thyroiduk.org ) a dose increase in Levothyroxine a first step back to better health.
No thyroid hormone works well until your core strength vitamins and minerals are up and maintained at optimal and I know now I need my ferritin up at around 100 : folate at 20 : active B12 75 ++ ( serum B12 500++ ) and vitamin D at around 100.
Your CRP is a little high - though not over range - and shows that your body is inflamed - do you have any food sensitivities - what were you diagnosed with - sorry - I haven't looked back to see why you are on Levothyroxine.
Hi there and thanks for your reply.
So much info from everyone! It's just brilliant.
I was diagnosed Hypo about 17 years ago after I started to feel unwell in the year following the birth of my daughter. Been on Levo (Teva) ever since and never felt ok. Fatigue is the pits.
What do you mean by T3 being protected?
I'm going to get my levels of non-thyroid elements up as best as I can. I already eat red meat about three times a week and hate liver on its own, but pate is most welcome so I'll be going for that. That's very useful info to hear about the levels you know at which you feel well. It seems so many people with UAT need really high levels of things in general.
I guess I've been eating too much gluten...sigh...I have some inflammation genetic tendency I recall so I'll have to be more careful.
When hypothyroid one fact is that your metabolism has slowed and the idea is that taking the T4 - Levothyroxine restores your failing thyroid and metabolism.
When metabolism is slowed your body will have trouble digesting and absorbing key nutrients through food no matter how well and clean you eat and why our core strength vitamins and minerals tend to be lower than someone with a ' normal ' metabolism and why we need to supplement.
Currently your T4 is around 35% and your T3 at around 13.50 % through the ranges.
In any form of result wouldn't you want to hope to achieve at least 50 % ?
We can live without T4 but we can't live without T3 and currently your T3 is far too low and you will be fatigued and with a slowed metabolism and struggling to cope with anything as your body is running on empty as you are not on enough Levothyroxine to convert to T3 and increase your metabolism and give you more energy.
The body needs T3 to function and when your T4 is so low the body will prioritise and try and keep your T3 up as high as possible and over ride the natural T3/T4 ratio of 1/4 :
Try a change of brand
As others have said a 25mcg dose increase would be in order.
MTHFR means you don't convert and use folate well. It has to be converted into a different form a bit like T4 to T3 conversion, so you need to buy active forms or methylfolate.
Start with a good B complex such as in the link. You can then add 400mcgs folate at a time separately and over weeks and months build up to a good dose. I was able to feel when I was at a good dose which is 1800mcgs total methylfolate.
amazon.co.uk/Yipmai-Liposom...
Your ferritin could be higher, aim for 90-100. Focus on red meat, chicken livers and pate a few times a week.
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