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can lions mane mushrooms heal our thyroids

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My son today spoke about some real benefits he had experienced from supplementing with these mushrooms - some research is being done to show how this can help those of us with thyroid disease.

Before I press the button to buy can anyone here confirm what progress they have felt from using this?

Many thanks !

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I’ve never heard of them before, so can’t comment on benefits. However, be aware that they can cause stomachs upset and increased blood flow in some people.

webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingre...

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Lots of interest in adding various mushrooms to coffee over recent years. Lions Mane is a favourite in this arena. Here's one article londonnootropics.com/faq-gu... (other sellers also offer similar products so do research and shop around before hitting any buy buttons!)

However, I very much doubt it can 'heal our thyroids'. For most of us, by the time our autoimmune thyroid disease is discovered, the damage has been done and it's too late for the gland to recover and start properly functioning again.

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Regenallotment in reply to RedApple

I’ve never heard this before, it has caught my interest! Caffeine makes me so unbelievably jittery, if someone screws up my order, it takes me days to recover. I have to be super fussy when ordering out now. I’d rather pay and tip it away if unsure. So if these mushrooms are added apparently I’ll be able to drink it…. Not sure I’d take the risk. What interests me (as an ex marketeer) is how they can make all these health claims when Tetley weren’t allowed to imply a health claim on green tea, see here marketingweek.com/tetley-gr... and the advertising rules suggest they can’t make these claims without evidence and certainly not link the claims to diseases. See here asa.org.uk/topic/food_drink... even as a kitchen worktop skincare maker in a former life I knew this, so this makes me suspicious of the legitimacy or professionalism of the company purveying. Another factor from the ASA is how much do you have to ingest for therapeutic effect. Will be interesting to watch this trend from the sidelines, if evidence is given and ASA rules followed then I might be less suspicious 🤨

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply to Regenallotment

The benefits of certain funghi have been know for decades, maybe even centuries. I don't think mushroom coffee sellers are claiming anything questionable. They're not claiming that the coffee itself is anything special, just that the added 'medicinal mushrooms' are beneficial. I don't think Tetley put medicinal mushrooms in their tea, so they can't claim health benefits in this way.

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Regenallotment in reply to RedApple

ah no, Tetley were claiming green tea was medicinal by way of a picture of a heart on the box. That’s how firm the ASA rulings are. My perception is this website with the coffee is breaching those same regs.

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Jumbelina

Thank you Danielj1. I love the idea of using food to help us heal (I realise these fungi are very rare in the UK so we would not find them fresh) and there are other varieties of mushroom which may be beneficial. Definitely worth considering - anti infammatory is good.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Jumbelina

True!

Also, if you happened to be a lucky one:

One of the four species listed in Schedule 8 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act (1981). It is illegal to pick or even cut samples so photos only if you are lucky enough to find one.

wildfooduk.com/mushroom-gui...

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Jumbelina in reply to helvella

Sounds fabulous. It could be well worth some enterprising gardener growing it (my father used to cultivate ordinary mushrooms under the staging in the glass house- and that worked) flavour and health in one delicious morsel!

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply to Jumbelina

You don't even need to be an 'enterprising gardener' 😊 marvellous-mushrooms.co.uk/...

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Regenallotment in reply to RedApple

Are you tempted? I grew button mushrooms in the early 90s. They were very prolific, housemates were not impressed with the slightly musty polystyrene box of compost in the lounge 🤣 been thinking about getting impregnated logs for the allotment but looks like these need more warmth. Not sure I’ll be too popular with these in the house 🙈

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply to Regenallotment

'Are you tempted?'

I've seen many species of funghi in the wild over the years, but never this one. So it could be a fun and interesting experiment. But, assuming they grow as expected, that would be a lot of apparently 'potent' mushroom to either use up quickly or find an appropriate way to store them. With less potent mushrooms, one could for example, batch cook them in soup, casserole or whatever with them. But I'd be very wary of consuming much of this one at any one time. 😀

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Zephyrbear in reply to RedApple

Would the fact that they’re grown on a compound that includes crushed soya bean hulls make a difference to us? We’re always told to avoid anything involving soya like the plague…

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply to Zephyrbear

I wouldn't have thought so.

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Jumbelina in reply to Zephyrbear

My father grew our mushrooms mainly on horse manure and we suffered no ill effects- so I'd think soy bean hulls would be fine.

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radd

Danielj1,

I’ve been using the Rheal Magic Matcha with Lion’s Mane Mushroom extract and Ashwagandha Root + Ginger. I can’t say I feel that much improved but it tastes nice.

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Regenallotment in reply to radd

my mum has ordered a rheal magic powder (Type 2 diabetic wanting to balance blood sugar naturally) she wanted me to try it but it’s full of seaweed. She’s 84 and quite active but I’m a bit worried for her. Her friend who recommended it keeps having falls (since taking it). I’ve suggested she try it and wait a few days rather than take it every day. What do you think? Are their products quite potent? 🦋💚🦋

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radd in reply to Regenallotment

Regenallotment,

Rheal make several products and I think you refer to the Superfoods that contains Seaweeds and yes, definitely not for us Hashi sufferers. I take a Matcha Tea combo with absolutely no seaweed but contains the LionsMane Mushrooms the O/P referred to. 

Yes, I would say the Rheal products are potent as they are quality products. I only use about 1/3-1/2 teaspoon a day. If it is making her feel unwell I think she should stop taking it. 

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Indigourchin

hello, two friends have had success with Lion’s mane in nerve pain management, i have heard nothing about it helping the thyroid. Both said it was important to buy only organically grown from reputably documented producers . they both used an american import.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to Indigourchin

Thanks for that. I found this re Postherpetic Neuralgia:

Heal the nerves with the following tinctures:

a) Chinese senega root: 30 drops 3 times daily for 30 days

b) Lion’s Mane: 1 teaspoonful 2 times daily.

Which is of interest to me!

(I'm not linking as it is a commercial site and I have no idea how good the information/product/etc.)

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RedAppleAdministrator in reply to helvella

' Lion’s Mane: 1 teaspoonful 2 times daily.'

Is that dried/powdered or fresh shroom? Sounds a lot if its powdered!

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to RedApple

Have sent PM with actual site I found that on. Not immediately clear!

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ICE187

I see Cordyceps listed. I take this for my heart which has helped. I had palpitations for years before my diagnosis of hypothyroidism. My palpitations have stopped and my blood pressure has become stable. I can't say if it helped my thyroid as I am on Levothyroxine. Cordyceps hasn't hurt me, so I will keep on taking it. I've read a lot of good things about Lions Mane which is on my list to get. If you get any, get powder form only. You get more for your money this way and you avoid the added fillers.

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CoeliacMum1

I know of a nutritionist Dale Pinnock think he did his dissertation about mushrooms maybe ask him. He has a Q&A sessions on Facebook, it might be his area to explain what Lions mane properties are and any benefits … I’ve heard of them when I briefly looked into adaptogenics.

I haven’t heard/read anything regarding helping thyroid…so off to click your link. 😊

Update interesting article. I’ve put in question to Dale on behalf and will update you if I get any feedback.

*Another update *

Meanwhile found this article he wrote 😊

positivehealth.com/article/...

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Danielj1

thanks for a load of really helpful comments.

I read a number of user feedback posts on of the reseller sites and overall quite positive and for those taking powder some can feel a difference within a few hours.

As with all things, nothing guaranteed and some say they do not notice much change.

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Donnaca

I use lions mane when I need to concentrate or study, it helps so much. Lions mane works on the nerve growth factors in the brain, it’s full of polysaccharides and vitamin D too.

I use a brand called Hybrid herbs and their lions mane tastes like toffee, it’s only lions mane and nothing else added but they just use very tasty mushrooms.

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Danielj1 in reply to Donnaca

You have promoted me to put in my buy order :)

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