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Hi, I have recently been diagnosed and am on 25mg of levothyronine for the last 5 months.

My last results stated TSH 7.37 (0.35 - 5.5) and T4 21.4 (10.5 - 21) both seem high.

Not sure what this means, do I need to increase my levothyronine?

Any comments please

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Welcome to the forum

Looking at your forum name are you male?

Standard starter dose of levothyroxine is 50mcg unless over 65 years old

Bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose change or brand change in levothyroxine

Bloods should be done as early as possible in morning before eating or drinking anything other than water and last dose levothyroxine 24 hours before test

Is this how you did last test?

If you took levothyroxine dose before test this explains high Ft4, despite high TSH

Which brand of levothyroxine are you currently taking

Have you had vitamin D, folate and ferritin levels tested

Or thyroid antibodies?

Contact GP for next 25mcg dose increase in levothyroxine and retest again in 6-8 weeks

This continues until TSH is ALWAYS under 2

Most people when adequately treated will have TSH around one

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Tonyworks in reply toSlowDragon

Sorry should have said this is not me but my wife. She is 67 with RA and other autoimmune problems

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So as she’s 67 it was correct to start on just 25mcg levothyroxine

But bloods should be retested 6-8 weeks after each dose increase

The only difference in treatment is starting at 25mcg …..rather than starting on 50mcg

But still need dose increased slowly upwards in 25mcg steps until TSH is ALWAYS Under 2

So if she has RA this is autoimmune…..

So thyroid almost certainly autoimmune too

For full Thyroid evaluation she needs TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested.

Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

Last dose of Levothyroxine 24 hours prior to blood test. (taking delayed dose immediately after blood draw).

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

Thriva also offer just vitamin testing

If she can get GP to test vitamins and antibodies then cheapest option for just TSH, FT4 and FT3

£29 (via NHS private service ) and 10% off down to £26.10 if go on thyroid uk for code

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

monitormyhealth.org.uk/

NHS easy postal kit vitamin D test £29 via

vitamindtest.org.uk

If TPO or TG thyroid antibodies are high this is usually due to Hashimoto’s (commonly known in UK as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all primary hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto’s.

Low vitamin levels are particularly common with Hashimoto’s.

Gluten intolerance is often a hidden issue too

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org/if-you-are-un...

Is she on strictly gluten free diet?

If not getting coeliac blood test done by GP or buy online BEFORE trialing strictly gluten free diet

Often helps with RA too

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Welcome to our forum and am sorry you have hypothyroidism. However, members are very helpful and will assist you to recover your health.

This is the procedure for blood tests:-

Always get the earliest possible time - even if you've to make the appointment weeks ahead.

Don't take thyroid hormones before test, but afterwards.

Thyroid hormones are usually taken when we awake, with one full glass of water and wait an hour before eating. Food can interfere with the uptake of thyroid hormones.

The aim is gradual increases (about every six weeks) until TSH is around 1 or lower and Free T4 and Free T3 to be in the upper part of the ranges. (the latter two are rarely tested).

Always get a print-out for your own records and post if you have a query.

Also check B12, Vit D, iron, ferritin and folate. Everything has to be optmal.

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