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Hope you can give some advice.My daughter has been in and out of hospital several times in the last year,with dizziness spinning and low blood pressure.She had B12 deficiency a few years ago and was given loading doses but it was stopped when they retested, her folate has been low and she got folic acid for 4 months which helped.Told yesterday her folate was checked in March an it was 4(range:2.6-20).Haemoglobin is 141(range:115-165).Doctor won’t treat as they are in range,even though she is symptomatic.

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greygoose

So, her B12 has probably dropped again, and that is what is causing the dizziness. But, doctors have no idea! And taking folate masks low B12 symptoms. They should always be tested together.

It would be good if she could get it tested again, to see what her levels are like. And, if it's low again, she doesn't need doctor's permeission to supplement. She could buy her own B12 and a B complex to raise folate, and keep all the B vitamins balanced - something else they don't know is necessary.

However, if her B12 is low enough to need loading doses, she should be tested for Pernicious Anemia. Pretty stupid of her doctors to stop her injections when her level rose. It rose because of the injections, not because she was cured. It really is pathetic, their lack of knowledge of nutrients!

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Smokey2018

She had B12 deficiency a few years ago and was given loading doses but it was stopped when they retested,

I thought that once on B12 injections then you stayed on them and further testing was not done because basically it will always be high if tested close to an injection or low if tested just before one is scheduled.

It might be worth you asking on the Pernicious Anaemia forum here on HealthUnlocked as I'm sure they will have come across this before and can give you some guidance:

healthunlocked.com/pasoc

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Barrister

Did they test sodium? I have Adrenal Insufficiency and when my sodium drops I get very dizzy and blood pressure drops.

Clemmie

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Smokey2018 in reply to Barrister

Was told when she was admitted to A&E that her salts were low that’s why she was dizzy and twitching blood pressure really low but it wasn’t treated until she stated vomiting 2 days later.They started her on IV fluids to correct electrolyte imbalance,but refusing to treat folate,phoned GP who has given her a script for4 months folic acid

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Barrister in reply to Smokey2018

The low sodium will be causing these problems then. It is truly horrible, I can’t actually do anything when I’ve got low sodium and it is very dangerous, actually a medical emergency when it gets too low.

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Smokey2018 in reply to Barrister

It’s been awful but we never realised that low sodium could be the cause she was having seizures so instead of looking for the cause they would up her seizure meds making her worse.Seizures were never controlled

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Is she diagnosed as being hypothyroid?

Low vitamin levels are EXTREMELY common when hypothyroid due to low stomach acid leading to poor nutrient absorption and low vitamin levels as direct result

Low B12 symptoms

b12deficiency.info/signs-an...

How old is she?

Is she vegetarian or vegan?

For full Thyroid evaluation she needs TSH, FT4 and FT3 plus both TPO and TG thyroid antibodies tested.

Also EXTREMELY important to test vitamin D, folate, ferritin and B12

Low vitamin levels are extremely common, especially with autoimmune thyroid disease (Hashimoto’s or Ord’s thyroiditis)

Recommended on here that all thyroid blood tests should ideally be done as early as possible in morning and before eating or drinking anything other than water .

This gives highest TSH, lowest FT4 and most consistent results. (Patient to patient tip)

Private tests are available as NHS currently rarely tests Ft3 or all relevant vitamins

List of private testing options

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Medichecks Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins

medichecks.com/products/adv...

Blue Horizon Thyroid Premium Gold includes antibodies, cortisol and vitamins by DIY fingerprick test

bluehorizonbloodtests.co.uk...

Thriva Thyroid plus antibodies and vitamins By DIY fingerpick test

thriva.co/tests/thyroid-test

Thriva also offer just vitamin testing

If TPO or TG thyroid antibodies are high this is usually due to Hashimoto’s (commonly known in UK as autoimmune thyroid disease).

About 90% of all primary hypothyroidism in Uk is due to Hashimoto’s. Low vitamin levels are particularly common with Hashimoto’s. Gluten intolerance is often a hidden issue too

Link about thyroid blood tests

thyroiduk.org/getting-a-dia...

Link about Hashimoto’s

thyroiduk.org/hypothyroid-b...

List of hypothyroid symptoms

thyroiduk.org/if-you-are-un...

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Smokey2018 in reply to SlowDragon

No they haven’t checked her thyroid,I did ask as I have Hashimoto ‘s

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Smokey2018 in reply to Smokey2018

Sorry forgot to add ,my daughter is 34 and no she is not vegetarian

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SlowDragonAdministrator in reply to Smokey2018

So she needs to get FULL Thyroid and vitamin testing done

Thousands U.K. patients forced to test privately to make progress

Very common for Hashimoto’s to run in families

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Smokey2018 in reply to SlowDragon

Thanks I will do that

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Hedgeree

Hi Smokey2018,

I'm neither a medic nor an expert but as Barrister says above I also beleive it's important your daughter needs to be checked for adrenal insufficiency.

From my reading on the forum a gp can initially check her cortisol levels; if she's still in hospital ask them about adrenal insufficiency as she may need treatment for low cortisol.

But as Barrister says it can be dangerous and is a medical emergency. It's a rare condition and so could possibly get overlooked.

There is someone on the forum that knows and has personal experience about this condition but unfortunately I can't remember their name.

Best wishes.

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Hedgeree

Hi Smokey2018,

Hope your daughter is doing ok?

In a previous reply I referred to another forum member that has experience with cortisol issues but I couldn't remember their name, well it's Hidden

Best wishes.

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Smokey2018 in reply to Hedgeree

Thanks Hedgeree

Low sodium, feeling dizzy & low BP are all signs of low cortisol levels, although they could be attributed to other conditions as well. However it would be worth asking your GP to do an early morning cortisol test between 8-9am, make sure you get copies of the results as GP's know very little about the condition. Is she losing weight, has hyper pigmentation, sleeps a lot? This chart shows what normal cortisol levels should be during the day.

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Thanks PaulineSI will get her levels checked

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