LCHF, Keto... Intermittent Fasting seem to do some of us good - BUT, what about our immune system?

[LindaC]

A lowered immune system can afflict many of us with hypothyroidism, adrenal issues, CFS/ME... stuff that many of us have accumulated over the years.

How about this re influenza?

medicalxpress.com/news/2019...

[Marz]

Interesting ! Thanks for posting 🥰

[LindaC in reply to Marz]

I know Marz + anything to stay away from their constant flu jab reminders!

Never had one yet xox

[Marz in reply to LindaC]

Nor me ! First UK GP appointment on Tuesday - let the fun begin 😥

[LindaC in reply to Marz]

Ah well you can certainly handle them Best of xox

[Mamapea1 in reply to Marz]

Good luck with it Marz🍀 I hope you've found a reasonable one...try not to baffle them with your knowledge too much...they tend to have poor coping strategies! 😂 x

[Marz in reply to Mamapea1]

I shall sit very quietly and be a good girl ! Plenty of experience of waiting outside the Headmistress's office only to be admonished for talking in assembly - unruly hair and other minor offences 😥

[janey1234]

fascinating...thanks for sharing 🙂

[LindaC in reply to janey1234]

Thank you - you may also be interested in Autophagy,

Which is a normal physiological process that the body's cells use to remove viruses, bacteria, & damaged material from the cell. ... A good analogy for the process of Autophagy is the game Pac-Man: when it gets triggered, Pac-Man starts gobbling up all of the crap and waste collected within the cell.

When you fast, you drop insulin and increase glucagon, which stimulates autophagy. However, it's not quite that simple: to induce autophagy, you need low liver glycogen, which is usually only achieved after about 14–16 hours of fasting, but is even more likely to happen after 24 hours - 36 - even 72 hours, so it's a serious commitment. 20 Mar 2019

Discovered by Yoshinori Ohsumi

- awarded The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2016

"for his discoveries of mechanisms for autophagy." This is not some weird thing - you will also find medical papers on this process

; many doctors - believing in 'Calories In - Calories Out' [garbage] seem unwilling to update their knowledge.

Dr Jason Fung is THE great guy on Intermittent Fasting and Autophagy - his great video links are out there on how it all works.

Here's an example:

thesource.com/2018/11/21/fa...

[janey1234 in reply to LindaC]

I've been reading & following Dr Michael Mosley's Fast800 / 5:2 / Mediterranean diet for the past 3-4 months and learnt about about autophagy from his books. The 'diet', which just becomes a normal way of eating has been a real eye opener and I've had huge success with eating within a certain window (which I've been doing for 3yrs) and following the ideas in MM's books. Autophagy works 🙂

[LindaC in reply to janey1234]

Indeed it does and we have something to 'go to' as opposed to little/nothing within medicine per se. And yes, the word 'diet' is most unhelpful; need to change eating habits for life. Take care and be well xox

I've been IF since 2015 BUT, due to so many other issues, I haven't quite got to the longer term fasting - which is ludicrous because I might well have been 'fixed' by now. Most I manage is 24 hrs - time to extend - but that can be difficult to manage in cold weather [when, this summer gone, I had heat pads down legwarmers in a room 26.9C], plus with remaining T3 [interfered with by an endo - I've bought my own from the outset under the advice of Dr P... Armour before presc'd by Dr S but listened to that endo... reduced my T3 in 2015 and never been the same again - I've long term heart issues so wasn't able to raise again] - yet try we must. Never, not ever, give up!

[janey1234 in reply to LindaC]

absolutely...keep going! x