Math question

[Coachgeorge]

Please don’t laugh! How do you compute how far in or out of range your results are? I should know this but I don’t. Thanks

[Hay2016]

Using website that’s been posted here before by others. I happened to have it open.

chorobytarczycy.eu/kalkulator

Makes life much easier. X

[greygoose]

You mean the percentages?

chorobytarczycy.eu/kalkulator

Just fill in results and ranges for FT4 and FT3.

[Coachgeorge in reply to greygoose]

So I’m shooting for upper ranges for t3 and T4, right? I’m hovering around 50% both both. Had another draw today

[Lalatoot in reply to Coachgeorge]

Some folks manage with a low ft4 once they are on t3. It is a juggling act till you find your own optimum levels. Ft3 needs to be over 50% through the range. Some folks need it 75% or higher through. You will only know by trial and error. If you post your results and ranges some of the more experience folks will suggest the changes you could make to medications ie more t4 or t3.

[Coachgeorge in reply to Lalatoot]

Thank you. I hope I’ll have results by Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

[Lalatoot in reply to Coachgeorge]

Pop them up. I am a juggler of meds like you so not experienced enough to suggest dose changes but I am sure help will be given.

[greygoose in reply to Coachgeorge]

You're aiming for the level that makes you well, wherever it is. It might be that you need your FT3 a little over-range. But that's OK if you feel well.

[Coachgeorge in reply to greygoose]

Truly a juggling act. Am anxious to see my results. Thank you

[greygoose in reply to Coachgeorge]

No, not really a juggling act. If left to our own devices, without the meddling of doctors, we often find it far simpler than we at first believe.

[LuluCops]

I’ve just used the calculator- does this look right?

T4- 13.4 (12-22) 14%

T3- 3.83 (3.1-6.8) 19.73%

That was my last test in July with medichecks. I’m waiting on a referral to a specialist thyroid clinic, once I have a date for this, I’ll be doing another blood test just before I go so that I have it up to date and able to just hand it to them.

I’m hoping it’s soon because my neck and throat are really starting to bother me now. It’s sore to swallow, I keep choking on food and it’s sore to touch but although my neck overall looks larger than normal, I don’t actually have a ‘swelling’ at the front of my neck.

Sorry to gatecrash your post, Coachgeorge xx

[Coachgeorge in reply to LuluCops]

Looks right! Having said that, I have no clue what it means. Someone will jump in and help! No worries

[greygoose in reply to LuluCops]

That is right, yes. Your Frees are pretty low. But, doctors tend to just look at the TSH. What was your TSH?

[LuluCops in reply to greygoose]

My TSH has been slowly creeping up it was 0.36 in April, when this test was done in July, it was 1.39 x

[greygoose in reply to LuluCops]

So, what are you taking now? Are you still self-treating with T3 only?

[LuluCops in reply to greygoose]

No I’ve not started self treating yet as I really don’t know where to start. I am still fighting with my GP to up my meagre 25mcg dose of Levo, although I am on B12 injections now and supplementing with 6,600iU of D3 & K2, and B12 both via BetterYou sprays. I also have the BetterYou Iron spray too but not started that yet as I’m waiting a couple of weeks for my B12 levels to get better first.

I don’t know what to try, I’m sure it was mentioned before somewhere on here that I needed to up my T4 dose before trying T3.

Although I have been on higher doses previously and still felt very unwell. xx

[greygoose in reply to LuluCops]

I'm not surprised you feel unwell on just 25 mcg levo.

The only labs I can find were from two months ago.

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

So, before you did anything else, you would need to get new labs done. Ideally, you would increase your levo first, to see how well you convert. But, if you've already got the T3 - think I read somewhere that you had - no reason why you can't add that in.

So, get the labs done, post them on here, and let's take if from there. It's really not that difficult.

[LuluCops in reply to greygoose]

I have been debating on getting more labs done, but also trying to hold off until I hear back from the GP on whether or not my referral had been successful or not! If it has then I’ll wait for the appointment to come through before I get them done so that they are as up to date as possible when I go to see them, if they’re not then there’s no point me waiting, I’ll try and go private if possible and get them done just before I go there. I’ll also get B12 and the usual you guys advise, all tested too.

I’ll follow all the advice on here as I did before and will post on here. Thanks @greygoose as always, your advice is very gratefully received xxxx

[greygoose in reply to LuluCops]

You're very welcome.

[Angel_of_the_North in reply to LuluCops]

If you are on NDT or T3, FT3 is way too low. If on levo, both free T3 and free T4 are too low. free T3 %age should be at least 50 and many people need it higher (around 75%).

[suztango]

In percentage, I think it’s:

(Result - lower range value) / (upper range value - lower range value) x 100

Does this give the same results as you get with the website?

[SilverAvocado]

I tend to just eyeball it and count on my fingers. First I count out on my fingers how big the range is, then I count out how far up the range the result goes, and roughly say what percentage that is.

Now I see why I am always giving very rough rough estimates and others are giving the exact figures!

[Coachgeorge in reply to SilverAvocado]

Who knew there was a website? We do now

thanks to our friends!

[Sus64]

Using the calculator then, what are the ideal percentages to be shooting for? I just entered my last results, I was 83.33% for FT3 and 10.53% for FT4. On 2 grains WPThyroid.

[Coachgeorge in reply to Sus64]

Will have to leave that for the experts. I’m just learning. Sorry

[Sus64 in reply to Coachgeorge]

Well thanks for bringing up the topic.

[LAHs]

Basically it's:

(Your result/the range)*100.

That will be your percent into the range - or above it's lowest limit. You need those few more words because if you are over the highest limit then you would not say you are 120% into the range nor over range, you would subtract 100 and say you are 20% over range.

So, get the two numbers of the range, subtract the highest from the lowest, call it R. get your result, divide it by R and mulitiply the result by 100.

[Coachgeorge in reply to LAHs]

Thank you. Looks like at one point I was 59% over range. Yikes

[LAHs in reply to Coachgeorge]

Wow, which one was that?

[Coachgeorge in reply to LAHs]

Ft4 scary

[LAHs in reply to Coachgeorge]

Well, I guess that's better than super high FT3, you would have had all the hyper symptoms, twitching, super fast heartbeat, running around everywhere not able to relax, head buzzing, eyes bulging. Of course, if you are a good converter you could have created high T3 from your high T4. Yes, most of us get to the critical point eventually but for some of us it's a miserable journey. Keep plugging away at it, you'll get there.

btw, I knew this was an American question straight away from just two words. In England it would have been "Maths question". In England it's plural and in the US it's singular - not sure why, after all "Matematica" is singular and not plural. I'm in California, the Central Valley and it's hotter than Hell.

[Coachgeorge in reply to LAHs]

Interesting! I’m not a good converter so I had all those symptoms. I was miserable. I’m just now able to get out of bed occasionally