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Ari3
Ari3

Hi there,

Well I have done my iodine urine test and the results came back saying I have moderate deficiency in iodine and iodine supplement is advisable and re test every three month.my nutritionist told me to use Logolis solution 15% four drops morning four drops evening.I wondered after how long time I should notice changes and what changes anyone else noticed once levels came up!?

Thanks

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What, and how much, are you taking, Ari? I see from past posts you were on 1/4 grain NDT. Is that still the case?

I can't see any mention of antibodies. Do you have high antibodies?

Why did you get tested for iodine?

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to greygoose

Hello my flower,

I am taking Lugol’s Iodine by ReallyHealthy Company 50ml-15% solution .7.55mg per drop.it is potassium iodine .Nutritionist told me to take four drops morning on the skin and four drops evening.is this too much and after a month to re test or should I go slow let’s say four drops every day? How long it takes to de build levels as I have moderate deficiency.

Yes I have Hashimotos in April my antibodies were 908 TPO.high.iam going to test them again somehow next week or so.iam gluten free lactose free .i use selenium 200,omega 3 twice a day,vitamin b complex every other day,magnesium oil spray 400 units, probiotics , kefir complex,colon cleans for bowels , vitamin c 2000 units a day, started vitamin e 400 units, folic acid 400,vitamin d 3000iu.i try to eat as healthy as I can .iam under my nutritionist and naturopath too.iam also treating adrenals with Adrenavive II.i have done liver flush and planing to do parasite cleans programm.i am not on antibiotics as having urine infection second time in two months.

My nutritionist tested for iodine and told me to donpatch test at home .it showed that iam low in iodine .i decided to do urine iodine test privately to make sure what my actual levels are. It came back pretty low and says moderate deficiency and supplementation is advisable and re test after three month. According to my nutritionist he told me to have four drops on skin morning and four evening and retest after month.

greygoose
greygoose
in reply to Ari3

But if you have Hashi's you shouldn't be taking iodine!

greenmedinfo.com/blog/iodin...

I don't suppose your nutritionist knows anything about thyroid.

And, even if you do manage to lower your antibodies with gluten-free, etc. you will still have Hashi's. The antibodies are not the disease.

You don't say if you're taking any thyroid hormone replacement at the moment.

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to greygoose

I understand what u r saying but if iam deficient in iodine what should I do than? Will small doses of iodine be so bad for Hashimotos? I don’t think it would be that dangerous if I use iodine in moderate quantities for a short time do get my iodine levels up as I have moderate deficiency.

My nutritionist and naturopath treats Hashimotos and thyroid disease for 40 years.

Iam now on 1/4ndt and 1/4 Adrenavive II.iam waiting for further instructions of DR P tomorrow .

greygoose
greygoose
in reply to Ari3

Iodine is not your problem. You are hypo because the Hashi's is destroying your thyroid. Nutritionists are not qualified to treat Hashi's and thyroid disease - most endos aren't even qualified to do that. And, you are getting a moderate dose of iodine from your NDT, anyway.

Did Dr P tell you to take iodine?

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to greygoose

My nutritionist and naturopath is treating me for autoimmune thyroid disease I have 12 month program.iam cleaning my gut eliminating wrong foods cleaning liver and toxins plus loads more ahead to do parasites etc. My endo is treating me for thyroid and adrenals.i will speak to him tomorrow and will see what he says. He also thinks that iodine is important part of thyroid but his secretary said that not in a huge doses

greygoose
greygoose
in reply to Ari3

I thought you said you were speaking to Dr P tomorrow. Dr P is not an endo.

And, as I said, a nutritionist is not qualified to treat thyroid. As a general rule, they know nothing about it and how dietary advice should differ from a euthyroid person.

Sorry, I just think this is a really bad idea, because I've been there and done that, and I don't think I would have got into the mess I did if I hadn't taken iodine. And, what about selenium? Did your nutritionist test your selenium? You know they should be kept in balance. But, of course, you must do as you think best. Good luck.

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to greygoose

I will speak to dr P tomorrow yes .

So what happened with you and iodine? Could you please tell ur story so I know it too? Have u stopped Hashimotos and how?what helps?

Yes he said I must have selenium 200 daily he tested for it too.

greygoose
greygoose
in reply to Ari3

I have told the story so many times on here. I was hypo, Hashi's, didn't know it, doctor prescribed iodine without any tests or anything, all my symptoms got ten times worse, especially female problems, ended up with hysterectomy, which make things worse, etc. etc. etc.

How could I have stopped Hashi's? Do you think iodine is going to cure Hashi's? No, it makes it worse. My thyroid has now been killed off completely, it's demise more than likely hastened by the iodine.

Taking selenium is said to help Hashi's, as is going gluten-free. Did your nutritionist suggest that? It helps to keep your TSH suppressed and optimise your nutrients - not iodine, which is a trace element and shouldn't be taken by the spoonful. But vit D, vit B12, folate, ferritin, vit C, magnesium, zinc… I've spent about 40 years getting over the iodine, with no help from doctors! I've experimented on myself to see what helps me - because we're all different. But, the one thing that didn't help was iodine.

Patch test is not accurate for iodine, especially in hot weather and at different altitudes, so I hope it was a urine or blood test. If you are are iodine deficient, then getting up to normal levels shouldn't have a bad effect on antibodies.

" the skin iodine patch test is not a reliable method to assess whole body sufficiency for iodine. Many factors play a role in the disappearance of the yellow color of iodine from the surface of the skin. For example, if iodine is reduced to iodide by the skin, the yellow color of iodine will disappear because iodide is white. In order to regenerate iodine on the skin, one needs to apply an oxidant such as hydrogen peroxide, complicating the test further. The evaporation of iodine from the skin increases with increased ambient temperatures and decreased atmospheric pressure. For example, the yellow color of iodine will disappear much faster in Denver, Colorado at 5,000 feet above sea level than in Los Angeles, California at sea level, irrespective of the amount of bioavailable iodine. "

Lugols is a mixture of iodine and potassium iodide and water. The dose is generally 2-4 drops orally in water.

helvella
helvellaAdministrator
in reply to Ari3

The patch test is not an acceptable test for iodine deficiency. There are many reasons for rate at which colour disappears to vary including, for example, height above sea level.

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to helvella

As I said I did urine iodine test as well and it turned out I have moderate deficiency

helvella
helvellaAdministrator
in reply to Ari3

My point was more that I don't trust anyone who recommends doing a patch test. If they can get that wrong, what else?

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to helvella

I was sceptical too that is why I did private testing :-) to make sure

Ari3
Ari3
in reply to greygoose

Iam trying to get my ferritin up as it is 47 and iron is just 10 so gp prescribed me spatone original two dashers a day but I will be using three instead of two

My iron and ferritin actually dropped when taking 3-4 spatone a day, so I doubt it'll make much difference. I'm amazed that GPs are allowed to prescribe it as so many OTC supplements have been de-listed. But your ferritin is much better than mine was.

So what are u taking for your iron than ? Anything u can suggest? I think every person is different in supplement absorption .i will try to eat spinich liver and drink those spatone sahets plus I ordered from pure encapsulations iron -c together with vitamin c hope it will bring some changes all together . I use 3 sahets 15mg and that supplement which will come will be 15mg so hopefully 30mg will be ok the days when I will have periods will use ferrous furrate (not sure which one is best from ferrous ?!?!?)

I just take 210mg ferrous fumarate x 3 a day. Spinach stops iron from being absorbed because of the oxalic acid in it, so don't eat it with liver.

Didn’t know thank you x

SlowDragon
SlowDragonAdministrator

Hashimoto’s and iodine don’t mix

drknews.com/iodine-and-hash...

thyroidpharmacist.com/artic...

Iodine use to be used to treat hyperthyroidism

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