We cannot trust our government to fight America’s disgusting farming practices. Unless we mobilise, US livestock pumped full of antibiotics will harm us all.
There’s an urgent need for a global ban on the mass treatment of livestock with antibiotics, and on any use of the antibiotics of last resort in farming. Tough as this is for the economics of megafarms, human survival is more important. But the opposite is happening. The US government hopes to use trade treaties to break down the resistance of other nations to its farming practices. And the UK is at the top of its list.
Please read the full article from The Guardian on the link above.
How ironic that at the same time I had an email come through from Dr. Mark Hyman discussing how bad our food is, how full it is of ANTIBIOTICS and anybody who studied Biology O level will surely remember The Food Chain structure/diagrams?!
If we feed our livestock Antibiotics as 'growth promoters', these substances will be absorbed into the flesh of these poor creatures and it stays there. It becomes bound into their tissues...then we eat them..so we absorb them.
We are investing damaging, unnecessary Antibiotics whether we like it or not.
No, becoming vegetarian is not the answer! Why should we accommodate filthy greed and work around these immoral entities??
What can we do to safeguard ourselves and those that are yet to follow us??
This is totally MADNESS, allowing these contaminated fed meat products into the UK...
We will either all have to become vegetarians or turn our gardens into smallholdings!
This is so depressing.
Aware Americans themselves are hardly happy with this type of food production. Dr Mark Human and so many other Brilliant American Drs deplore this way of feeding animals.
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Animals who graze will also eat our equivalent of 'breakfast!' I was merely attempting to "inject"- no pun intended... some humour to lighten the ugliness of the situation!
I have sheep and my daughter is a farm vet, if the animals are sick they are treated appropriately, they aren't given drugs for the fun of it, to expensive !
Why is Candida albicans rampant, which does everybody pretty much have a damaged gut biome, why is Hashimoto's also an epidemic and do many other chronic inflammatory conditions... Over use and Abuse of Antibiotics is at the centre of it all.
We are killing ourselves all for 'the bottom line'
Antibiotics treat bacteria infections while antifungals treat fungal infections.
Putting animals together particularly housing them inside and poor hygiene means that bacterial infections spread quickly. Some live stock don't do well when housed inside and also they are more expensive to feed, which is why you tend find in the UK sheep especially but deer and other livestock outside grazing on land. Much of this land can't be used for anything else.
Also you can't blame farmers for the fact lots of people in the UK eat a high percentage of non-real food. A study was done recently and like the US but unlike the rest of Europe, people in the UK ate something like over 50% of food that was not related to its natural state. It is known now that eating highly processed foods e.g. crisps, biscuits, pizza, takeways leads to a reduction in the range and amount of gut bacteria leading people more prone to digestive problems, weight gain and diseases.
I think the point being made is that antibiotics wipe out gut bacteria and allow Candida to become rampant. It is common to develop thrush after a course of antibiotics.
We are killing ourselves all for 'the bottom line'
The people with plenty of money can afford the best quality food. The really rich will have cooks/chefs to turn that food into healthy meals.
There were an estimated 7.6 billion people on the planet in December 2017 (UN estimate). Many of the people with money probably don't care if they kill off poor people. There's already far too many people on the planet, and the numbers are rising all the time. And if, in the meantime, the rich can get richer, then why should they worry?
If you can follow an exclusion diet if you don't already for what, gluten cow dairy and soya...to stop the source of Inflammation to a leaky gut, the result of so many Antibiotics like me...and take billions of Probiotics like the coconut water kefir that I make...you will improve all round.
Poppy_the_cat I have been gluten free for about 20 years and have done many exclusion diets over the years. All my problems have been since the change of Levothyroxine in 2010. Also made and taken Kefir. I was fine on Goldshield Eltroxin. Thanks for your suggestions though.
Glad to know you are following such a good path. I have only realised I am gluten intolerant amongst other things in the last 2 - 3 years. It has been so wearing... The Kefir has saved me and that's for sure!
Yes, I believe this is practiced world wide - not just america, they cannot survive in the cramped and appalling conditions without being pumped full of antibiotics - that's why i try to eat organic where i can as not allowed to treat unnecessarily.
To be honest, the antibiotic use in the animal world is rife and gazumps the use in humans by a long shot so likely behind the surging bacterial antibiotic resistance?
Their food standards and animal treatment policy are far worse than ours though so yes will still be a problem for us.
Yes, I'm aware but as stated - not allowed routinely or unnecessarily and only under strict conditions where there is a proven need? Also hormones not allowed etc
That includes pets whether they are domestic pets who are well kept or puppy farmed ones.
I was horrified when I learnt a couple of years ago that antibiotics of the last resort in humans were given to sick dogs and cats - and that they weren't rarely given. (I haven't checked if they still are.)
When the infamous Marie de Médicis wanted to discreetly poison somebody, she would employ very toxic poison that she prepared herself.
She would start off by poisoning a small creature and the feed the flesh of the dead animal to the next creature. Then when that creature died in turn she would repeat the same process several times, having totalled a fair few creatures by the end of it! The results obtained were as so toxic that the slightest contact with the refined poison was almost instant death.
These same poisons like antibiotics and other things get passed on in the same way!
It is very worrying.
I have kept livestock and am well aware of animal welfare. Apart from feeding animals the proper good that was intended for them giving them a good life is important too.
Have a read of this..........Use of antibiotics for non-medicinal purposes, such as in animal feed, has been banned in the EU since 2006. A number of additional measures ensure food does not contain antibiotics when it reaches the table. Those using antibiotics in livestock for medicinal purposes must observe a safe withdrawal period before an animal can go to slaughter or its products be sold to consumers, which is set by the Veterinary Medicines Directorate (VMD) and European Medicines Agency. Stringent rules are also in place for meat and dairy products imported into the EU from the rest of the world.
Commitments to reduce antibiotic use in animals are part of the UK’s wider ‘One Health’ approach to tackling AMR in people, animals and the environment. Plans announced in response to a major review into the global threat of antibiotic resistance in people and animals also include commitments from the Department of Health to halve the inappropriate prescription of antibiotics in humans by 2020 and halve the number of healthcare associated bloodstream infections that pose the biggest risk by 2020.
I do not buy supermarket meat and eschew processed meats as much as possible. I buy all meat from a local butcher who only sells organically raised, grass-fed meat. Most of the pork, beef and lamb/mutton is pastured on our local salt marshes. Eggs come from a hen farm that sells them at the farm's gate which is on a track leading to the local rubbish dump....we call them "dump eggs"(!) and they are huge and delicious and cheaper than the shops. Hens everywhere in a massive orchard and apparently they all make there way to the hen house at the end of the afternoon, it's nice to wave at them and say "hello girls!".
I'm all for trading with the world but I do not want antibiotic-laden meat.
We have fought so hard to reach this point that the thought of losing our ground and being 'forced' to return to such unhealthy practices stinkes!
We had it 'sweet' trading as we were; we occupied a 'Goldilocks Zone'...all the bluff and bluster spouted by certain individuals doesn't amount to a hill of beans as Humphrey Bogart would have said...we can only look on in disbelief!
Yes, definitely - america also allow many ingredients that are banned elsewhere - and I'm also worried about losing my annual leave soon too plus multiple other things lol!!
Lol - sorry just realised it might not be obvious what I meant if unaware and might have sounded weird - america don't exactly do annual leave or even maternity leave so just another concern if we end up like them lol
I find it highly suspicious how the referendum was announced just as the TTIP failed - I don't think I've ever screamed/stomped so much at any vote before as normally think it's makes little difference lol!!!
It is owned by one of u.s. president's buddies. He asked the guy to 'test' the efficacy of his 'manipulation strategem' on our referendum to shift the vote which is the result we got...all as a testing ground for his own election which is the result he wanted too.
We live in very uncertain, unpleasant time; with very unpleasant influences afoot.
Yes, it was very obvious that was the case in regards to any arguments put forwards from both sides or lack thereof - there was only ever going to be one result. I try not to look into it too much and ignore it all as just depresses me but I can never help seeing the bigger picture from the minuscule amounts of news headlines I read or what people say and if motivation/arguments aren't logical, then the real underlying motives become clear!!!! Hey ho - we shall continue in our "enlightened" phase of society I suppose lol!
Like you say, Hey Ho...on a lighter note the authentic Ms Poppy the 🐈...having been let back in, has whilst the kettle has been boiling for the old hotwater bottle, slunk with her slinky hips through the living room door, through the hall and up the stairs! Calling for her, she holds her breath and hides behind the bannisters on the landing...only to greet me at mutual head height with a very wide Meow!! Seeing as his Master's Voice is away...and it's only Moi at home, she knows I'm a soft spot and she has me completely wound around her paw!!! Having watched me clean my teeth, she now thinks it Showtime... So let's play! We are back to the subject of Mani_PAWpulation!!!
Yes, I tend to mostly eat a lot of unfarmed fish like mackeral rather than meat which I suppose bypasses the medicine and appalling condition issues- not that there aren't other problems with overfishing - my uncle was a deep fisherman so that's what I grew up on anyway - fish and crab everywhere in every fridge and freezer space lol!
You lucky Kipper!!!! Crab one of my absolute favourites!! Aarrgghh I LOVE IT!!
I am beginning to wonder, especially after seeing the Broken Brain Docu-series... If we should not do a sort of 'Healthy Recipe Exchange', listing ingredients, with the WHY in other words the healthy contents of each ingredient, or Flavonoids etc ..for strong coloured orange/red veggies...with a photo of finished dish and guide to prep time?
Lol - Ah never was a fan of crab - might have been due to my uncle's bad sense of humour as he would bring back those giant deep sea crabs alive and lock all the kids in the same room as them strolling around the floor with gigantic claws in the dark We would have to sit on top of the dining room table until a more responsible adult returned lol! You have no idea how big and monstrous those crabs can get! I suppose it's a good way of keeping the kids quiet
I suppose it was kind of what's for tea - ohhhh fish for the 5th night in a row - sulk!!
Could be a good idea - might be difficult with everyone having differing multiple intolerances though lol
I would name every ingredient with that purpose in mind!
A few years back we went to Devon for my birthday. At one point in the middle of the tourist rush, I saw this strapping chap carrying a crate of fresh crabs, being a brazen hussy I stopped him in his tracks, my partner is far too shy...I asked him where they came from, apart from the obvious! He pointed to the harbour wall...so off I trotted, my man in tow. We met the fishermen themselves and ordered a bunch of crabs for the following day.
What a feast. They were massive! We cooked them on beach and washed them down with chilled champagne. Heavenly. Must do it again this summer!! Shall think of you!
Mackerel people eat nowadays are all smoked and flavored, packaged one. Not exactly natural or fresh. I often think it's a fast food. I don't blame them enjoying the packaged ones with teriyaki flavour. It's too nice and looks better than a fresh, raw fish with the head.eyes, teeth etc. consumers want the civilized presentation, too. Already flavored, easy to serve. It's the convenience that people want.
What is it with people who can't cope with fish heads and fish eyes??? What is the problem??
I can never understand that one?
Yet people watch horror movies with the most appalling gore!!??
I think our civilised society has lost the plot! Everything is too sanitised and too fake, no wonder we all get so sick, nothing is real or as it should be anymore!
haha I remember the first time my toddler noticed an eyeball or two showing through the batter of the whitebait she had always adored. She studied them for some time with a confused look on her face, me and friend looked at each other with a kind of knowing oh here we go, this will now be off the menu raised eyebrows glance. After some silence, she looked up and said - "mummy, are these real eyes", I said yes - long confused pause - "were they actually alive" - ummm yes - long deflated pause, "sigh, oh so fish I eat is real fishies from the sea" sad and hunched - ummm yes - pause - then she all of a sudden scooped a few up, shoved in her mouth, chewed, smiled and said "thank you fishy" in the most grateful, disney style cheesy positive way lol!!!
I always liked a bit of smoked peppered mackerel - and convenient at times - but they've been doing something different to them in the past couple of years which makes them taste funny - more chemically so I've gone off them. Probably some way of fake smoking them in some wrong and speedier way?? It's a shame
It is also important that meat is grass fed and not fed cereal. It impacts the nutritional value of the meat. Argentinian beef has taken a disastrous downturn in quality since they turned all of the pasture land over to crops and now keep cattle in feed lots, and give them cereal. John Torode made a TV programme about it,
My recent horrific reaction to lamb was most alarming. My Consultant said if it happens again I am to call an ambulance to go straight to hospital. Being severely gluten/ wheat intolerant amongst about 20 other things... maybe the key to reacting to the lamb was it's feed during its life???
Where was the origin of your lamb? Do you regularly eat it from the same supplier? Just interested because I like to know about what I’m eating, and deliberately choose British produce, preferably organic.
If it’s any comfort, Trading Standards are doing unannounced checks on farms right now, going through all their chemical records, along with cereal and animal ones too. It is much tougher to cheat the system these days, which is much more regulated, and in theory animals going for meat production are traceable, though not quite to packaging point!
But of course the source of meat and other foodstuffs in ready-made meals or processed food is much more difficult to trace. Suffice it to say even the more ‘upmarket’ supermarket ready meals, say, contain chicken from Thailand, for example - there’s not really any way of tracking that from egg to plate....
As a general rule. people first and foremost want cheap food. How it was reared and what it tastes like is way down the list. The Government know this so see cheap imports as a way of feeding the population. Research has shown that if consumers are asked, they want high welfare etc, but they are not prepaired to pay for it, or spend the time reading a label to see how the animal was reared, or even where in the world it came from.
So if you had a couple of acres, and needed to make a living, what would you do? Two cows outside or 100 cows in a barn? Farming is a business and they need to make a profit. There are very strict rules on the use of ABs, and every animal going to slaughter is sent with a form saying it is free from ABs and any other medicine. You can end up in court if you lie on the form.
I have farmed most of my life. All my animals have been outdoors, including the pigs. I am about to bring the sheep in for lambing, this cold and wet is a lamb killer. I know the animal welfare in mega farms is very high, but somehow it still goes against the grain.
Oh and dont get me started on palm oil or soya! I will now put my soapbox away and have a hashi-nap!
I do not eat red meat at all since ages. We all knew about antibiotic use for several decades, nothing new. We also knew farmers avoided eating the sprayed fruits (numerous times, not just 5 or 6 times) they grew to sell. They had unsprayed, safe fruit and veggies, knowing the harm these hidden layers of residual chemicals may cause in humans.
Ok, fine...it's great that you don't eat these harmful things...but so many other people do. People who cannot afford to go Organic, or simply people who do not know any better. Just because some of us can eat organic, or are aware so we do our best to avoid such food stuffs, allows this dangerous, potentially life threatening practice to endure. Let's not even be bothered about we we eat for the sake of argument, but when we don't have a single Antibiotic left that works, so routine hip replacement operations, or heart surgery or anything else that requires infection to be fought, what will happen then??
This is a huge topic that my grandfather who was a highly respected Dr foresaw in the 70's. How much closer to the edge do we have to get, before the people who should be taking charge in a position to do so, actually deal with it?
It is a worldwide issue that affects all of Humanity.
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