Have I screwed results and awful depression, feel worse i some ways, can you relate?ndt?

[Jeppy]

Hi

May sound daft, I'm due new bloods taken today, after not having my levo for two days

Have I done the unthinkable by just having a cup of tea?! Brain fog and SAD!

So will need to go tomorrow maybe?

Mainly I'm on 50mg levo but the anxiety and depression has been awful, I've felt worse in some ways, this is my default and want to stop, as I need to work and it's unbearable working when head in this place,

Has anyone had this phase at 50mg please? on average at what dose does it lift?

Really really spiritually depleted, haven't taken the ndt as a member strongly advised me to, as I feel if I can convert to t 3 myself I would rather go this route first, but she said just to take ndt to start feeling better sooner, and I do have westroid here that I bought

Really grateful for any thoughts from admin or those with same experience

J xxx

[shaws Administrator]

Hi Jeppy

I have looked at your Profile but it hasn't been completed, i.e. a little bit about your thyroid journey.

I am assuming you haven't had a Free T3 and Free T4 blood test and I know few doctors or labs will do these.

Tick off your clinical symptoms below:

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/about_...

You can show to your GP but I don't think they know any at all. The aim of taking any thyroid hormones is to relieve all clinical symptoms. The doctors are more concerned about where the blood test results fall.

A dose of 50mcg will not do very much for you. We used to get prescribed doses between 200 and 400mcg (NDT) but they've reduced them right down to keep bloods in range.

Levothyroxine is a synthetic thyroid hormone and may not be conducive to some people who don't get well on it. Therefore, NDT which contains all of the hormones a healthy gland would, may make a big improvement.

50mcg is a starting dose and you can switch straight over to 1/4 tablet of NDT (I am assuming it is 1 grain?) Take note of symptoms before you begin. Every two weeks thereafter you can add 1/4 tablet of NDT until you feel well. Take pulse/temp before beginning so you have a starting point and if you feel hot take temp as it may only be beginning to rise. Usually our temp and pulse are lower due to hypo.

Also make sure vits/minerals are optimal, B12, Vit D, iron, ferritin and folate. Everything has to be optimal not just somewhere in range.

[Jeppy in reply to shaws]

Hi

Here is the question?

Are you feeling I should t persevere with levo to feel well. I'm confused as read that the right levo dose should reduce tsh down to under a two, hence you convert better to up free t3

If this is the case, I don't understand why take ndt first?, sounds great!!! Thought you had to follow the levo trail first

Jx

[Jeppy in reply to Jeppy]

Hi again

Please let me know if this cup of tea will screw any results, just so I know where I'm up to whether to go give blood or not today??

I'm due a private blood test today

(Hungry as not eaten😔)

[SlowDragon Administrator in reply to Jeppy]

It will be fine

You should really only not take Levo for 24 hours before

[Greybeard]

Hi Jeppy, the tea will raise your tsh a little so will not having blood draw as early as possible. Personally I would be tempted to cancel and book an appointment much earlier, say before 9am, if you are looking fore a dose increase the doctor needs to see your tsh as high as possible.

[Jeppy]

Thankyou

I've managed to confuse things then

At least il have breaky now!!

And have missed levo for two nights now?

Any thougts please?

With respect now I don't know if I'm to look for a higher levo dose, or to swop to ndt as Shaws indicated

Aaaaggh

[Jeppy]

Ps

Doctors dont think I should be diagnosed anyway! As say I'm normal!!!!! I wish

Their tsh check last month was 4.2

Therefore they say take 12.5 if I want!!? To keep it in check

Soooo fed up with it all

[Jeppy]

Yes it makes sense in balance

Stop levo 24 hrs

Go early

With respect mixed messages above, as I'm now tempted to take ndt if it will make me feel human

I was hoping to right myself with levo before trying taking extra t1 t2 t3

My bloods weren't so bad without taking anything, but had the viligi anxiety and depression mainly, and tearful

Although 4.5 tsh the uk don't see as hypo

X

[Jeppy]

I've decided to get my bloods done and have a keniesiology testing then post on results of bloods and make a decision from that

I'd better get back on the levo before the bloods taken and then stop for 24

Dreading it obviously as I feel dyer in 50

Don't want to go ndt before I know definately I can't feel better on levo alone

Maybe there will be a shift of depression at 75 and 100, decided il rough it with a sick note as I can't manage like this anymore and need to know one way or another

Thing is, will I be given a sick note, scary ...... I live alone so no one to lean on sadly

[Jeppy]

Also

Where will I get extra levo please?

Cause it won't be from gp, considering they think 12.5 is sufficient ........