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1 gram of soy per day = danger?

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I know i should absolutely avoid soy because im on hypothyroid.

But there is this amino supplements i bought (with a full range of amino acids). and it contains.... soy isolate protein. extract from regular non-gmo soy.

and taking the daily doses would equal 1 gram of soy per day...

what should i do? take it or not?

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greygoose

Well, I wouldn't take it. Leaving aside all the other horrible consequences of ingesting unfermented soy, it could affect your absorption of thyroid hormone at a cellular level. One gram doesn't sound like much, but it could be having more effect than you realise.

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hendb in reply to greygoose

You're absolutely right greygoose and your answer made me realize it!

thanks a LOT (again and again ;)

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greygoose in reply to hendb

You're welcome. :)

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hendb in reply to greygoose

greygoose I'd have another question to ask you. I don't know if i should open another post or not...

Im on levo 50 since 25th october. (i started with 37,5 levo mid october)

Im planning to have a blood analysis the 5th of december (so approximately 6-8 weeks after implementing the levo. to check my t4 and t3 levels).

my t4 and t3 have always been low.

can't i add t3 now? do i have to wait until the blood analysis?

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greygoose in reply to hendb

I think it would be better to wait. But, if you do decide to add it now, just make it a quarter tablet.

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hendb in reply to greygoose

the t3 i have is the cynomel, it contains 0,025 mg.

So i would take, one quarter= 6,25

I don't know if I will wait until december or the blood analysis or not.

Im tired of being tired. exhausted.im having hard times raising my child. im being nervous with him. im not myself and i know it is hypo related.

from what i know t3 has an instantaneous effect

And after all why waiting for my body to transform t4 into t3 if i can directly deliver it t3 through medication?

I don't get the point actually...i would be grateful if you could enlight me greygoose

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greygoose in reply to hendb

No, doctors might tell you that it has an instantaneous effect, and people that have never tried it might write articles about it, but those of us hypos that take it, for the most part, do not feel an instantaneous effect. And, you have to take enough of it to feel anything at all, but it's a hormone, and all hormones have to be started low and built up slowly if you don't want to stress out your body and find yourself back at square one. So, I would forget that idea, if I were you.

The reason we advise starting out with levo is because levo is what is easy to come by, and approved of by the medical profession. T3 is getting harder and harder to get prescribe and harder to find on-line. Therefore, if you can be well on levo, it'll make life a lot easier for you.

There is also the little matter of blood tests. The NHS will not test for FT3, and wouldn't understand the results if they did test for it. But, when you're taking T3 the only important number is the FT3. So, do you plan to always do your own testing?

In any case, you do need to have a base-line before you start. It's a very good idea to know how well you convert before adding in T3. It avoids confusion later. But, if you start taking T3 now, and test in December, it will completely alter your bloods and you won't have that base-line. You will have no idea how well you convert.

And, if your test on 5th December is an NHS test, and is looked at by a doctor who doesn't know you are taking T3 - I don't know if you plan to keep it a secret or be up-front about it - he will not understand your results, because your TSH will be low, but so will your FT4, because the blood tests were designed for people taking T4 only. So, more confusion will arise.

No way am I saying that you should never add T3 to your T4, but I am saying you should think very carefully about it first, and know exactly where you are going with this, and how you plan to proceed.

You should also know that, should you become pregnant, the majority of endos/doctors/midwives etc. do not like pregnant women to take T3, they want them on T4 only. How are you going to feel if you are forced to give up the T3 for the sake of your baby? Perhaps you should be doing research in advance so you know the ins and outs of thyroid hormone replacement during pregnancy so that you can effectively fight your corner? There is a lot to think about, and rushing in blindly is definitely not recommended. :)

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hendb in reply to greygoose

thanks a million times greygoose your message is cristal clear! i understand and agree with every word you said :) specially the "pregnancy/t3 issue.

thanks a lot. im really gratefulfor all the knowledge you share with us

ps : im french and live in africa, so not really cobcerned about NHS issues

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greygoose in reply to hendb

Well, that's one problem en moins! lol

You're very welcome. :)

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BadHare

I bought this as I like Marigold’s nutritional yeast. I wasn’t keen on the taste & ditched it as soon as I spotted the soy content.

If you like it, ask Marigold if it’s fermented.

I prefer tamari & miso, which are safe.

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