Itchy skin

[Tiredmum75]

Hi everyone recently wrote about itchy skin and thyroid autoimmune problems I have recently had a extreme allergic reaction in the shopping centre the other day to a lady’s perfume and later had allergic reaction from bath water no other additives in the water either. Can anyone tell me what this maybe as it’s getting tricky to even go out. Many thanks

[silverfox7]

Just a thought on the bath water problem, it could be residue from cleaning materials! Try a different brand and see if that helps.

[Tiredmum75 in reply to silverfox7]

We have both chlorine and fluoride in the water and not sure but maybe heavy metals. I use bicarbonate soda paste to clean the bath as I had the same thought

[Ty-phoon in reply to Tiredmum75]

I had a massive reaction to something they used in my local swimming pool, in the spa pool, as a teen. Rash over my entire body. Happened both times I went in there and have not been in one since!

[Tiredmum75 in reply to Ty-phoon]

Wow have you found out what it was

[Ty-phoon in reply to Tiredmum75]

Nope! I think they said they put bromine in the water instead of chlorine.

[HLAB35]

Here's a useful link.. that goes into great depth - one of the main issues that can be inferred is that under treated thyroid and adrenals will contribute to the problem.

drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Categor...

The advice is pretty extensive .. and exhausting!

[Tiredmum75 in reply to HLAB35]

Thank you I will have a look

[Hashihouseman]

Histamine!

its a long shot but may be possible that treatment for hypothyroidism can tip the balance of your digestive systems abilty to neutralise histamine common in many foods which then leads to allergy like symptoms as histamine gets into the blood from the digestive tract. Perhaps the easiest way to test this is take an appropriate anti histamine or better still a diamine oxidise (DAO) supplement, which is the enzyme operating as the front line in preventing histamine toxicity from food (expensive but easy to get via Amazon).

[Tiredmum75 in reply to Hashihouseman]

Thanks I will try that I’m on a allergy tablet at the moment but it feels like a short term fix

[Hashihouseman in reply to Tiredmum75]

Yes thats how it felt for me too, and I didnt like the side effects of the anti histamine, whereas the DAO did seem to work well enough with no side effects but its a costly option if dietry histamine is the trigger for the allergy like symptoms. I guess it could also be a proper allergy in which case its the immunologist you need!

[Tiredmum75]

Yes first allergy tablet I had I was allergic to the doctor thinks it maybe a chemical intolerance thing she’s still running tests

[silverfox7]

An anti histamine is always recommended to take if thinking there is an allergy so it's going to stop the problem but not sure it's advisable to be taking it long term. And not sure how to narrow it down. It could be something else associated with having a bath-a bathtowel with soap residue from the washer for instance. May be a start could be an intolerance test. I've had a good one and was very sceptical but it did point out things I knew I had a problem with plus things I was unsure about. I have seen Ines advertised who ask you to bring along things like washing powder, polish etc but don't know how accurate they are. I've seen hair samples as being the way to go but also comments of notvgo be accurate but I would certainly ask GP about allergy testing which he may dismiss but you won't know until you ask.

[Tiredmum75 in reply to silverfox7]

Yes I will ask the gp I have recently made some washing powder out of bicarbonate soda, washing soda and Castile soap in hope that it would help I also use a organic body wash and my own loofah washing thing

[bobsmydog]

I had very bad itchy rashes which moved around my body for several years before being diagnosed hypo. I would scratch in my sleep till I bled.

Tried absolutely everything from pharmacy, doctor, eliminated washing powders etc and any other hints and tips I found on the internet. Nothing worked. Antihistamines gave short time relief but would then stop working.

This got better almost immediately when I was put on thyroxine. They still flare up from time to time but nothing like as bad as before and taking antihistamines for a few days does the trick. My raynaud's (numb white fingers) was also cured by taking thyroid hormones.

My hypo is not autoimmunine but I do have raised ANA. I have no idea how this all ties in!

[Tiredmum75 in reply to bobsmydog]

Hi thank you for your reply have you been checked for lupus could be the reason for raised ANA. I know the feeling about scratching till you bleed I still have antibodies so I may need a adjustment in medication I’ll ask the Endocronligist if it’s related to it

[twinks]

Hi Tired mum, I'm similar to you but not severe. The itching has been months the gp just says to up antihistamines dose but I think its not the answer it's just masking it.

Gone through all the normal things like soaps washing powder perfume it's driving me batty..... trying not to scratch especially at night as I can't sleep anyway.

[Tiredmum75 in reply to twinks]

Thanks for your reply and I can sympathise with the sleep thing the blood on the sheets from scratching make extra work to I found a good organic moisturiser that helps but not a cure it does buy me a little sleep though

[madge1979 in reply to twinks]

I went to Dermatologist before my Graves diagnosis because of a dreadful itchy rash

SHE DECLARED I HAD THYROID DISEASE ..

I could have kissed her feet as my dr. Said it was all my age etc etc .. !🙀🙀

Also the profuse sweating was causing me a yeast

Issue in my skin ..

Stupid Doctor said it was menopause 🙀

....She gave me a script for Dermol 500 Aww wow !

It was wonderful !

Use as you would soap and as a moisturizer

That and My Carbimazole

Fixed that damned itch !

Try it it works !

On prescription or buy

From Amazon

Best of luck

Mx🌹

[twinks in reply to madge1979]

I get a lot of itching on my head it's difficult to know what to wash my hair with

[Tiredmum75 in reply to twinks]

I use a organic shampoo and conditioner that is mainly made from essential oils it helps with the itch when i use it

[Tiredmum75 in reply to madge1979]

Thanks I will ask the chemist about it

[milupa]

Dear Tiredmum75 -

some really good ideas here already! Which symptoms do you get when you have a reaction? And was the bathwater incident on the same day as the perfume encounter? I like the overflowing bucket analogy - our bodies can deal with a lot, but there comes a point when it all adds up to 'too much' and the whole systems protests!

I have mcs (multiple chemical sensitivity). I too reacted to plain bathwater. Have you considered a filter just for the bath to see if the chlorine causes symptoms?

The histamine/mast cell issue is worth looking into!

The severity of my reactions has lessened now that my adrenals are well supported (hydrocortisone) and my diet is low inflammation/paleo most of the time.

[Tiredmum75 in reply to milupa]

Hi thanks for your reply I get a pin s and needles feeling on my skin then it turns red hot and extremely itchy the perfume and bath were day after each other I am researching filters at the moment what sort would you recommend?

[twinks in reply to Tiredmum75]

Snap, there's not always a rash its under the skin burning itching.

[milupa in reply to Tiredmum75]

Hi, apologies for the late reply! I had to go through removal boxes to find the filter... but it doesn't have a name on it! I used those small filters than can be screwed between hose and shower head when I lived in London. The chlorine irritated my eyes, dried out hair etc. With these filters those symptoms as well as the itchiness and tightness of the skin (like ants crawling under the skin) went away. Here in Berlin the water is not chlorinated, but I have a whole house filter for hard water. That also helps. I use dead sea salt in bathwater and only natural cleaning agents, like you. Low cortisol had something to do with the skin reactions as well, even cashmere sweaters were too scratchy..

I hope you find something that helps!

[Tiredmum75 in reply to milupa]

Thanks

[MSC56]

Not one person here mentioned FOOD allergies or using organic soaps and body lotions on their hair, body etc. I too got the itching and realized it is the body's way of telling me that I can NOT tolerate the crap they put in body lotions, shampoo, conditioner, deodorant and make -up! Changed ALL of that to organic, problem solved and eat healthy, eliminate wheat, milk, sugar for a start, go gluten free and see if THAT doesn't help with the right dose of meds for your thyroid, levo, T3, Amour whatever you take which works for you. Get a food allergy test and a heavy metal hair test. Leaky gut also has been known to come through with itchy skin. Heal your leaky gut. Many ways to do that..elimination diet is a good place to begin.

[Tiredmum75 in reply to MSC56]

Hi thanks for your reply I’m also coeliac so gluten is definitely a no go. I also have switched to organic moisturiser,soap,shampoos and now trying cleaning products organic as well as a filter cause I’m extremely sus on the water. I don’t use makeup it’s over rated. What do recommmed for healing the leaky gut I have heard of many and it is extremely overwhelming

[startagaingirl in reply to Tiredmum75]

Hi - if you are coeliac, have you considered that you may also be intolerant of dairy? The protein in it, casein, has a similar structure to gliadin, the protein in gluten that causes problems. I have discovered severe intolerance of both and my daughter's severe, life- long eczema has cleared up after she also subsequently removed gluten and dairy from her diet.

It could well be that your immune system is just so irritated and "hyper" due to an underlying intolerance that is effectively chasing shadows and firing off at anything it comes across rather than having a true allergy to them.

Leaky gut - you really need to remove any intolerances before anything will work. After that try l- glutamine powder (I bought on Amazon), make bone broth to have on its own or in soups, casseroles etc. That is to restore the underlying integrity, then need to help rebuild lining with strong pro-biotics ( not supermarket drinks etc).

Gillian

[Tiredmum75 in reply to startagaingirl]

Thank you I will try that and yes I am intolerant to dairy

[silverfox7]

Think you. Red a list, looking like a long one though and eliminate one at a time. Mine I mentioned above was a food intolerance one but it also included mineral vitamins and E numbers. The chap doing it said most have one or two and the most he had come across was I think 10 or 20 from a girl who was anorexic! Well out of something like 200 or 250 I clocked up 142!!!! I do have an allergy to brassicas and some where too low levels of things I was low in. It do supplement. A couple of E numbers as well which a surgeon said who have landed me in intensive care had I been given the E number during surgery. I was going on a cruise a few days after so I decided I would eat according to my results. Well didn't have to source the food or cook plus I could see if I liked things I'd never eaten before. Well I must be the only person on a cruise that actually lost weight and gained more energy. Was t a great deal of weight. Utvi thought after a while my body was better defined. It was something I found on Social Media and cost I think £44 instead of £200+ but I don't know the firm. I wasas I said earlier sceptical but much better to waste the lower amount than the full price. They did send me away with literature for York testing so I thought they were affiliated to that but they just rented an office by the hour so low overheads. I have seen one advertised though as I said that asked you to bring along cleaning things and I think a water sample but it was more than I paid but did look at more things. I do hope you get some relief soon though May. E just looking up what these tests do may well give you ideas where to start

[FlissFloss]

I have urticarias or the histamine intolerance. I was diagnosed last month. It happened around the same time as my thyroid.

It started as a hot itchy rash on my arms. My arms are now left with a dry itchy rash which get dry spots on them. It’s also on my face when I get over heated, or stressed and my knees. It’s annoying more than anything!

[Tiredmum75 in reply to FlissFloss]

Wow that’s sounds painful and thankyou for your reply I have mainly had this itch on my face arms and legs and it only goes down with severity it doesn’t go away

[FlissFloss in reply to Tiredmum75]

Yup, sounds about right. I was told use lots of moisturiser and take anti histamines but that’s my diagnosis. You need to see your gp and/or a specialist to find out for definite.

Do you have EDS too by any chance?