Can't sleep again

[Tiredofitall]

Coming up to 2 am . Wide awake AGAIN . The weird thing is I feel more alert now than I have all day .

[The_will_of_Jill]

Happens to me too... still trying to figure out why. I heard that some people take their thyroid medication at night before bed in order to help them sleep. I take my magnesium close to bedtime though so I can't do that.

Currently taking my WP thyroid around 430 or 5 o'clock in the morning then I get up for the start of my day between 9 and 10 AM.

I take my T3 around 130 or 2 PM.

[The_will_of_Jill]

Happens to me too... still trying to figure out why. I heard that some people take their thyroid medication at night before bed in order to help them sleep. I take my magnesium close to bedtime though so I can't do that.

Currently taking my WP thyroid around 430 or 5 o'clock in the morning then I get up between 9 and 10 AM and I take my T3 around 130 or 2 PM

[mrpenguin]

Just gone 6am and I haven't slept a wink yet.. I ate late (After 11pm) and I took magnesium with it so I am blaming both those things.

How absolutely irritating

[The_will_of_Jill in reply to mrpenguin]

12:30am here, and wide awake watching Britcoms on public television. Just took some Holy Basil 🍃

[marigold22 in reply to mrpenguin]

Magnesium helps you to sleep

[silverfox7]

Could you take your first dose later and your afternoon dose a little later? May help.

[Tiredofitall in reply to silverfox7]

Hi thanks for replying . I am on 75 mcg Levi which I take around 5 - 6 am when I am up to use the bathroom. I then go back to bed . I maybe sleep till 9-30 . I used to feel guilty and lazy but what's the alternative? I have now realized to listen to my body and go with it. But it is so annoying. Sorry for moaning on

[marigold22]

I was diagnosed very hypo in 1981, to cut a very very long story short, between 1985 and 2014 my sleep pattern was all over the place. Go to sleep around 2 to 4am then sleep for up to 15 hours, then be wide awake. I couldn't keep a job, therefore lost my house, having already lost my marriage (and nearly lost custody of my son). It was very low adrenals due to a very low thyroid for many years. If the body is very low in thyroid hormones for probably decades without realising it, which was in my case, the adrenals try to compensate for energy. Then they too go down. I know what Dr P gave me for low adrenals but I don't think I would recommend that direction now. Perhaps you could do another post asking what folk here do to get their adrenals sorted.

[SilverAvocado]

I believe waking in the night being very alert is an adrenal thing. Especially if you can sleep fine for the first part of the night, but then wake at 2 or 4 kind of time.

Specifically for that eating can be a partial solution, because the problem is your body runs out of food during the night, and your adrenals are supposed to cover for that and give you the energy you need in order to stay asleep. But if your adrenals aren't up to it you'll be too hungry to sleep and wake up. I now eat my meal quite late, and take a snack of oatcakes or nuts and dried fruit up to bed with me.

In addition to this I found melatonin and mindfulness exercises both helped an awful lot with sleeping. I take 6mg of melatonin, but started with 3mg of the Now brand. I try to do my mindfulness in the afternoon, I find it harder to do it closer to bed.

[humanbean]

Tiredofitall mrpenguin

As a life-long insomniac you have my sympathies. I found out my problem was caused by high cortisol. I did a 4-part saliva test which showed my cortisol levels were high with every sample. This is the test I did :

gdx.net/uk/product/adrenal-...

Read the Description/Analytes/Requirements sections and also the links in the Additional Resources. Genova don't like dealing with the public, so there are specific instructions on how to order the test and get your results. Read this page :

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

There are other companies doing the same kind of saliva testing - Blue Horizon Medicals, Medichecks, and Regenerus Labs, for example. They don't all include a DHEA result with the test, which is why I prefer Genova who do. (I think Regenerus might - but I've never used them myself.)

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/testin...

You'll see the kind of results that you get on this post :

healthunlocked.com/thyroidu...

I did an interpretation of that person's results (on that link) which you might want to read. Having cortisol which is too high or too low can have a severe impact on sleep. It is not a good idea to assume you have high cortisol or low cortisol. There is a lot of crossover of symptoms between the two problems. But the treatment is different. So please don't jump to conclusions. Treating low cortisol as if you have high cortisol, or vice-versa, would be a very bad idea indeed.