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DanW
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Howdy, has anyone found they get these little rashes at all?

I've read there's some tenuous evidence that links them with autoimmune disorders like diabetes and thyroid issues but wondered if anyone else had experienced them and how bad they got?

Thanks very

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UrsaP

You might want to describe the rashes DanW and post any recent bloods with ranges. It may help people to advice you.

I know my son has rashes, not little - often big and very serious. We (private Dr) think this is down to low adrenals but jury is out still on that. Supplements have lessened the flare ups and the severity so far but not completely.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK

For those like me, who wouldn't have recognised Granuloma Annulare if it had come up and introduced itself, this link might help - it has several clear photographs:

dermnetnz.org/topics/granul...

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Hattie007

Hi DanW I have granuloma annulare. I have it on my thumbs and fore fingers. It sometimes gets really sore and splits and bleeds but I've found I just have to be very selective in the hands soaps I use. I've had it 5 years. I was told in some cases it clears itself up after two years. I eventually had a biopsy to confirm diagnosis. In some cases (and they don't understand why) it clears up in response to the biopsy. Mine is a little improved since the biopsy and I believe it has improved a little with the introduction of T3 and I also use a steroid cream (when I remember) and hope that one day it will clear completely. The dermatologist hat took the biopsy did say it is often seen in those with diabetes (which I don't have) but have 3 other autoimmune diseases.

Do you have this? Have you had a confirmed diagnosis? Gps, nurses and pharmacists that I showed over the years didn't have a clue what it was, one telling me it was warts and it was only recently I requested a referral to dermatology and got the definitive diagnosis.

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SimonA87 in reply to Hattie007

If you don't mind sharing, which 3 autoimmune diseases do you have?

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Hattie007 in reply to SimonA87

Hi SimonA87. I have coeliac disease which was diagnosed almost by chance really. So am strictly gluten free. I also have autoimmune thyroiditis, diagnosed 9 years ago after the birth of my first child and then 'diagnosed' with sarcoidosis nearly 2 years ago after going back and forth to doctors for years feeling poorly. Diagnosed based on the presence of the AG and repeated elevated ACE blood test. When I received the diagnosis I thought that's it, I've cracked it, but actually it has brought no relief as yet. They've pumped me full of various types of drugs, none of which brought relief and most of which brought problems.

Sorry don't want to be depressing but I was on such a quest to find out what was wrong, but when I got there I realised they didn't really have a clue as to what to do to help me feel better and almost just firefight.

I wish you good luck on your quest though!

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SimonA87 in reply to Hattie007

Thanks Hattie007, really useful information. I may go for an ACE test.

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DanW

Thanks for the replies. The ones I have look like the 'perforated' version in the link that helvella provided.

I have not had it diagnosed as I thought I'd leave it a bit to see if it went on its own or if it got bigger.

I thought it might be something like a tick bite as it appeared after going climbing through some undergrowth bit it didn't look like the 'bullseye' rash you get.

Then it appeared on the other arm a week later.

I'll visit the GP about it soon, but to be honest they're usually not particularly bothered unless you've got a leg hanging off lol.

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SimonA87 in reply to DanW

Take plenty of photos, they'll come in handy years later if you develop more issues.

I would try and get a dermatologist to look at them if you can, GPs are not good at diagnosing rare skin problems.

Mine looked like this one:

dermnetnz.org/imagedetail/4685

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Hattie007 in reply to DanW

Mine look more like the first picture on this page. nhs.uk/conditions/granuloma...

Like I said certain products seem to aggrevate mine so it might be worth trying to identify those and keeping my hands moisturised (I found the only thing that didn't sting is the water based diprobase cream).

Dermatologist prescribed dermovate- not sure if it works but your go could prescribe if you wanted to give it a go.

Good luck!

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SimonA87 in reply to Hattie007

I actually had bumps that remained on my fingers since the episode 12 years ago but they didn't look like the original granuloma annulaire so I've always assumed they were warts. I've just found the following photo, my permanent finger bumps look exactly the same:

dermapics.com/granuloma-ann...

These bumps were inactive for 10 years after the initial episode and then 2 years ago my lips started burning, mouth broke out in ulcers and these bumps started tingling/itching again.

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SimonA87

When I was 18, I had red circular patches of skin appear on my hands/fingers. They looked exactly like Granuloma Annulare but I was never given a proper diagnosis and it faded away after about 8 weeks and hasn't come back. They were always completely painless but did make me self-conscious so I did my best to cover them up.

I hear it's common around early adulthood and I've had other problems like fatigue and random health issues ever since my teens.

My thyroid has only recently gone out of range (I'm aged 30 now), I don't have Hashimoto's so the root cause still eludes me but I now have the first piece of the puzzle.

I did order a ANA, HbA1c and blood glucose tests but all were normal so now I'm going to do a bit more detailed testing because my health keeps getting worse and my GP is not helpful.

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brilliantbobbie

I've got this! Just been diagnosed after a biopsy. It coincided with starting Levo so I'm convinced there's a link but not sure what to do now....

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Melrose2

Hi,

Get your thyroid tested: you need to test TSH, T3, T4 and reverse T3. Convert the T3 into the units in which reverse T3 is reported (or vice versa) and divide the T3 value by the rT3 value: if the answer is >24 fine. If the answer is <20, you have "functional hypothyroidism" and you need treatment with T3.

TREATMENT WITH T4 WILL MAKE YOU SICK!

It will take a couple of months to get rid of the Granuloma Annulare: It will probably work, but no guarantees!

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