No connection between the picture and the link, I just liked it.
What you should know about Acid Blockers and He... - Thyroid UK
What you should know about Acid Blockers and Heart Attacks
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Greygoose, the picture is terrific 
I'll read the article tomorrow.
Thank you greygoose very interesting. I was diagnosed with GERD last year when I complained of a lump in my throat and was prescribed PPIs which I took for a few days but got terrible headaches and constipation/diarrhea so decided that I would return to the good old liquorice extract. I also started back on the probiotics for a while to get my stomach back to normal. I still have the lump in my throat but Im not taking those PPI rubbish. Big pharma has a lot to answer for.
greygoose• in reply to
GERD isn't a disease, it's a symptom, you can't be 'diagnosed with a symptom. Instead of taking the lazy way out and prescribing PPIs, they should have look for the cause of your GERD! Honestly, I just Don't know what they get paid for, these days!
The lump in your throat is probably your thyroid and they should have done an ultra sound. Glad to hear you didn't take them for very long!
It's easy money Grey, if they don't have to 'work' for it. It is high time Big Pharma were taken to task!
...hopefully bit by bit they will be. Have just read about Sanofi and their new Statin. The FDA are asking for research to be released about neurological problems before sanctioning the drug. Could this be a new beginning ? Now where did I read that ???
I think there is a 'FDA briefing' since this 2014 report
Oh dear. I was prescribed strongest nexium like a candy when I was 22 and it made me feel hideous. Headaches, diarrhea and nauseous as those were the side effects. Guess what... I already had bad diarrhea and was nauseous 24/7 before taking them but docs said there is no side effects, I am just imagining.
But ppi's made me much worse for long time. I did not even have heart burning 
Yes, I know what you mean about the candy!
When I was in hospital two years ago, I had the feeling they were just trying to prescribe me as many pills as they possibly could, when all I wanted was a pain killer! Among the cocktail were PPIs and blood thinners - and now we find they countre-act each other??? Brilliant prescribing! And the reason they prescribed that cocktail was because I had an arrythmia - they said - with no symptoms (I'm convinced it was just magnesium deficiency, but they didn't test that!) so we now find that instead of getting my heart better, they actually put me at risk of a heart attack!!! Even more brilliant! Not to mention all the other side-effects of the horrible things. And they were planning on keeping me on them long-term. One really has to conclude that they just have no idea what they're doing.
So, as you can imagine, once I was out of hosptial and able to do my own research, I took myself off everything and felt much, much better. 
Two links - just for information:
I have been on PPIs for so many years, I have a hiatus hernia too. I wonder if that is the reason I have had diarrhea for so long no one has found out why!
Sounds a possibility. When my Mum was in hospital I confiscated her chart and summoned a meeting with anybody who would listen. Went through the list with a fine tooth comb and eliminated most of them. There were pills for constipation - pills for diarrhea - I was appalled... Common sense has flown of the window in most medical care places.... I so wanted to kidnap her and take her home - sadly it was not possible.
I have been there with my Mam when i asked i was told you take one you get side effects so you get another pill for that.In the end they changed her blood pressure tablets ,but did not replace them with another BP tablet by mistake because she was on so many. She had a stroke and died.And the powers to be just stick together cover for each other .
If you are hypothyroid, the reason could be low acid - not high.
I am fine now and have no trouble with pepsin/betaine tablets before each meal.
Have you got a link for the study cited? I went into PLoS but can't locate this particular study.
Ummm... no.
That's a shame, studies involving millions as stated in this article are extremely rare and I would be interested to see the results. The article itself only states that the risk of heart attacks is greater than in the general population not that it has been proven that it is caused by PPI's.
I would be interested to know if they have proved causation but without the actual study that's impossible to ascertain.
I Don't know, but even without the heart attacks, PPIs are dreadful things. And so many people on them Don't even need to be, which is wicked!
It was mentioned in the Guardian :
theguardian.com/society/201...
And various other journals. And there was this :
circ.ahajournals.org/conten...
Don't know if that's the right study.
Lots of sites ran with the story, even Reuters! But the links they give only take you to PLoS, but the story is no-where to be seen... I Wonder if they've taken it down for some reason?
That study refers to a possible increased risk in patients who already have ACS and raises the possibility of an increased risk in the wider population. There are also some interesting conflicts of interest declared by the authors.
Based on this alone I don't think we can generalise too much and say it is a 'dreadful' drug although it does seem that more research needs to be done as to their unexpected effects.
Much of medicine is a balancing act with every drug/ natural remedy having side effects which have to be carefully balanced against the beneficial effects. It's really important to critically analyse any research done before reaching a conclusion and my scientific skills are not detailed enough but it is a really interesting subject.
I was speaking as a patient that has taken PPIs. They made me very ill. Ibso facto, they are a terrible drug as far as I'm concerned and I'm not interested in any balancing acts, I will never take them again. There are alternatives.
We all know the big pharmeceutical companies have a lot to answer for but what I don't understand is the mentality of our doctors.
We struggle to get thyroid meds because of this guideline and that test result, and yet doctors prescibe PPI's for years. The article claims PPI's to be the third highest selling drug in the world (just because of people greed of pizzas, etc.?)
The side effects are heart attacks, oesteoporosis, senile dementia, etc because this drug is approved for just eight weeks of use!
What ever happened to our doctors guidelines concerning this drug? They are too busy trying to prevent us access to thyroid medications. Lol.
Lovin' the picture gg
Flower007
greygoose• in reply to
Doctors have been brain-washed by Big Pharma - from the beginning of their training up until the end of their careers. They are constantly bombarded with slanted information by drug-salesmen offering free coffee mugs and lunches. They seem to lose the will to think for themselves! And they've also be educated to disbelieve anything the patient says - you know we're all hypocondriacal morons - so the only thing they trust and believe is their computer!
Sorry if this is a bit disjointed, but my granddaughter is in my office reading aloud from the The Secrets of a Herbalist in French! Bit difficult to concentrate! lol
Marz• in reply to
In Izabella Wentz's book she mentions that in 2010 the PPI's that were prescribed in the US amounted to almost 14 billion dollars. No wonder the reps keep brainwashing the Docs - big money - big rewards for the Salesmen
Haha love the picture
shawsAdministrator
No words or explanations needed. Thanks.
Thanks for posting .I have Barretts and a hernia .I have tried many times to get off the ppi but failed.i have a endoscopy every 2 yrs.I am going on the 14 July ,so the info in this post will be very handie.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! x
Greygoose, at the Conference in October of Thyroiduk, they supplied 'tattoos' of the thyroid gland which you could wash off later. I put mine on my wrist.
Wouldn't it be good to have the above in a 'tattoo' where you could put it on your arm when you went for a blood test? 
What? The Bad Endo Voodoo Doll? lol Don't think the endo would appreciate it!
I think we should commission nanas to knit Endoo dolls for the TUK coffers, I'll supply the pins! lol!
(if only some of the horrid docs could get a little taste of what it's like to be in chronic pain)
I have a 'special' Endo in mind for that picture Grey. The article is very eye-opening. Thanks for posting.
Hmmm... I have two. But an awful lot more GPs!!!
Brilliant picture Grey. I agree, that should be our mascot, lol.
I was on Zantac for about 10 years then onto PPI's for best part of 20 years. During this time I was also put on HRT for 5 yrs, Anti Depressants for over 8 yrs and a host of other pills. I started to wean myself off most of them about 6 yrs ago and this year have finally got off almost all my pills, including BP tablets and the PPI and Statins.
I found that a lot of the side effects disappeared. I hadn't realised most of them were side effects because they had been part of my 'life' for so long. During this time, and before I came to this forum, I started dieting and exercising. I actually managed to lose over 9 stone but then cam to a standstill.
Once I had stopped taking all the pills and was taking just the levo, and meloxicam I began too feel so much better.
Since I have been on this forum I have learned that I was not eating enough so I stopped dieting. I have not put on any weight since so that advice certainly worked for me.
I have recently seen an endo who has put me on a trial of T3. I see him again in 4 weeks. I am going to ask for a raise in the T3 and possibly leave the levo at the present level. I feel better, am sleeping so much better and just feel so much 'brighter'. Also the brain fog appears to be lifting! I have not lost any weight yet but hopefully an increase in T3 will help that.
I cannot believe how ill the gp's have made me over the past 30 yrs keeping me on the mix of meds I was taking. I now question everything they suggest and have recently refused two lots of meds which they wanted me to take. I wouldn't have had the nerve to do that a few yrs ago!
I wS told I had acid reflux and a hernia and put on PPI's. Well nothing happened to improve my health! Then t read the word addiction so weaned mysf off pretty quickly. To me it made sense that I hadn't a true hernia but the sphincter was sloppy and giving the same effect most probably down to being under medicated!
Exactly! That's what we're saying. Doctors hand them out like sweeties, along with antiDs and beta-blockers, to 'fix' symptoms without looking for the cause - and getting it wrong 90% of the time! They are lazy-doctor tablets. And the effects to the patients can be horrendous and need even more treating. And then they Wonder why the NHS is going bankrupt! Pfft!
I went to my newish GP the other day and never having discussed symptoms with her showed her my two or three hairs on my legs. she thought it was an age thing and told me she sees lots of old ladies in nursing homes and they are the same-it's age so I said it could just as easily be that they have an under active thyroid! I hope she thinks I may have a point!
lol What a revolutionary idea, SF! Wow! I Wonder if your comment even entered her brain?!? If it did, it's probably rattling around in there trying to get comfortable. But I doubt it ever will!
Well I like to get a dig in when I can!
I Don't blame you!
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