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Osteoporosis Myth: The Dangers of High Bone Mineral Density

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The title speaks for itself. More about man playing God.

The more I read, the more convinced I am that in order to stay alive, I need to stay away from doctors.

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Lol. Sometimes I think I am on the verge of joining that club.

An article on bbc health pages suggested medical studies reveal that loss of sense of smell suggests you will die earlier. But some have said sense of smell may have a relationship with untreated thyroid.

So I guess a headline mat grab the attention but how much detail has been left out

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Marz in reply to overnighthearingloss

My hubby has just pointed out the article you mention ! If that is the case I should have died years ago....have a feeling I can smell better than before - but is only a feeling :-)

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greygoose in reply to Marz

I worked with a man of 70 who was born without any sense of smell or taste. He seemed very healthy to me and worked a full time job. I left before he did.

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Marz in reply to greygoose

:-)

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sweetsusie in reply to greygoose

I dated a guy back in the day that had no sense of smell..I used to wear Vicks Vapor Rub as a cologne (a little dab behind the ear), because he could smell that and LOVED it! HA!

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greygoose in reply to sweetsusie

lol

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bbc.co.uk/news/health-29441323

Perhaps it's due to a gas leak or imbibing poison by accident.... (or they happened to be the 85 year olds?)

well I was going to make an appointment at the GP surgery as I'm fed up of no taste/smell, besides my annual blood-letting is due - I may take a detour to the undertakers instead and save the hassle! J :D

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greygoose in reply to Spareribs

Or maybe you don't live as long because you can't smell the sabre tooth tiger creeping up behind you!

What a depressing article!

It may be an early-warning sign, they say. An early warning sign of what??? They don't even know! I really don't think this sort of article should be taken too seriously - another one to be taken with a pinch of sea salt from the Camargue! I think it's just people trying to justify their existance by scaring the proverbial out of others. As I said somewhere else just a second ago, there's a lot of that about (to steal a phrase out of doctors' vocabulary).

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overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose

Maybe it was Simtha Mundasad's first article or she is on work experience still learning the trade.

The next article will contain more facts or she will be reporting on tea and cakes

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Yes - what a load of twaddle - " Smell lies at the interface between physiology and psychology, which is a battlefield of reciprocal interactions..... it's just annoying (but handy when changing the grandaughter's nappy) J :D

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greygoose in reply to Spareribs

Actually, that's rather a lovely phrase. But meaningless. However, you could learn it off by heart and repeat it to your doctor when he's being a pain. That would give him something to think about! Blinding him with psycobabble! lol

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Spareribs in reply to greygoose

he he! :)

Learning to live without a sense of smell (related article)

"If you imagine every pleasurable activity you do, and then remove the smell from it. All pleasure and emotion disappears too.

er....I think I must have a different imagination....

perhaps another phrase to memorise for the doc - to dish out those ADs like smarties...... J x

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Have you ever smoked? I didn't realise how little I tasted and smelled when I was smoking. When I gave up, wow! I dug into that little stash of perfume samples I'd been saving for the granddaughters and wore a different one very day. lol But you soon get used to it.

Pleasurable activities... Let me see.... Horse riding? We-ell, smelling is not obligatory there. Knitting? No. Paddling in the sea? Hm... Having a go on the kids swings! No, don't need smell for that! Nope, think they're exaggerating there.

Or, maybe we don't know what they mean by pleasure... smothering your Partner in whipped cream and chocolate sauce? Now you're getting there! lol

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Crikey GG! living in France has got to you!

(Hubby's asking why I'm strangely grinning).

Must be that salt - got ours from the Gironde (I think) and it's 'wet salt' - things weigh heavier when wet.. hmm...

Yes I smoked (on & off since behind hedge at school @15) but I now believe the Thyroid trouble started before I first quit (when preggers) - but there's definitely a B3 niacin/nicotine connection to be investigated, but its often ignored. J x

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greygoose in reply to Spareribs

Ah, the French aren't as sexy as you might think! I had one that wanted to cover me in jam once, but never whipped cream!

I started smoking at 14 - because the other girls did! And, yes, we smoked behind the hedge on the playing flield. I remember once six of us getting caught with one Woodbine between us. The teacher confiscated it saying, it isn't even a decent brand! and put it in her coat Pocket, still alight. We all stood there waiting for her to burst into flames.

I smoked on and off until I was 56/7 giving up for long periods like pregnancy and things, but always going back. I'm really not sure that giving up smoking makes you hypo, I think you smoke (or drink, or take drugs) because you're hypo and feeling bad, and these things mask the symptoms. So, when you give up, they become apparent.

Question of chicken and egg, horse and cart, etc.

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Spareribs in reply to greygoose

well, a teacher happened by, noticed but walked on, at least it wasn't the girls toilets...

I finally gave up my 5-a-day last birthday (boxing day) having compensated with NDT. B12 & complex.

Now, another bleedin' stone later! (plus 2 stone 4 months after PT op).

Emotion, or lack of...

I remember waiting for the ferry at Calais - 8? years ago - after the usual 'ceremonial' last moules frite & a few cocktails sitting a la pavement, Bonnie Tyler and Kareen Antonn were performing 'lost in France' in Calais square - well, it was brilliant (& free) and we were bopping away, as we do, but alone as we discovered the frenchies were rather reserved ..... strange but true J x

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greygoose in reply to Spareribs

Ahhhh memories. Do you still come to France occasionally?

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sorry not been on PC today - well only for work.

We last visited at Easter in our camper and because it was so busy we daren't go summertime, so many campervans now. We hopped down the coast through Normandy, Pegasus bridge, down Brittany to hubby's favourite place Morbihan - we've gone further down if we have more time, then make a mad dash back up to Calais - I'm not a good traveller esp on ferries - the shorter the better! J :D

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Have you tried the tunnel? That will be my choice if I ever go to England again because last time I went, I have a traumatic experience on the ferry!

Love Brittany. And Normandy. Although I haven't seen an awful lot of either. I much prefer the north coast to the South. It has far more charm, I think. Perhaps it reminds me of England? lol

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Marz

I remember Phillip Day commenting that the Hunza tribes lived into their 100's due to the fact they had fresh clean water from mountain springs and lived 100's of miles away from any medical intervention.... :-)

No-one knows your body better than you - so you have to be your own Doc for most of the time.... M x

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Well, I am! Totally, at the moment. But what a lot of flack that gets me! lol But what he says in the article makes a lot of sense. Why should I have the bones of a 30 yr old at 70? Not that I've ever been diagnosed with either of those 'diseases'. But we do know that Big Pharma will go to any lengths to make money. They are totally evil!

I read the other day about a drug that was made to treat diabètes but was found to give people nausea, vomiting and acute diarrhoea. So, rather than take it off the market, they are now marketing it as a weigh-loss drug! I'm sure it works!!! lol

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Marz in reply to greygoose

You couldn't make it up ! M x

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overnighthearingloss in reply to greygoose

It works to help the accounts of the drug companies

Number 1 priority you know

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Glynisrose

I read that somewhere doctors went on strike and the death rate reduced by 50%!!

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greygoose in reply to Glynisrose

Yes! I read that too. lol And I don't doubt it!

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sweetsusie

Thank you for posting this, greygoose...I totally agree! I wouldn't touch those bone meds with a 10-foot pole!

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Me neither!

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