Restoring Thyroid Hormones In Heart May Prevent Heart Disease From Diabetes

[helvella]

Looks like we are headed down the bizarre road where you might get T3 for heart disease, diabetes, mental illness - and yet find it impossible for good old fashioned hypothyroidism!

Restoring Thyroid Hormones In Heart May Prevent Heart Disease From Diabetes

By News Staff | June 25th 2014 10:39 PM | Print | E-mail | Track Comments

Old Westbury, N.Y. (June 25, 2014) –Administering low doses of a thyroid hormone to rats with diabetes helps restore hormone levels in their hearts and prevented deterioration of heart function and pathology, according to a new study by NYIT College of Osteopathic Medicine professor A. Martin Gerdes.

The study, published in the online edition of Molecular Medicine provides the first clear indication that low thyroid hormone levels in cardiac tissue of diabetic individuals may be the major cause of their associated heart disease, says Gerdes.

The study finds that diabetes triggers low thyroid levels that contribute to heart failure. In animal models, Gerdes and colleagues found that administering low doses of the active form of thyroid hormone, T3, prevented the progression of heart disease.

"This treatment prevented the abnormal changes in gene expression, tissue pathology, and heart function," said Gerdes. [/I]

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Rod

[Clutter]

Another one here advocating T3 in diabetes patients to prevent heart disease chennaivision.com/news/2014...

Too much to hope someone will find off label uses in drugs to help thyroid patients?

[Glynisrose]

It is already the case where you can be treated legally with T3 by a heart specialist or psychiatrist, its ridiculous to think that the very people who need it are denied it by the powers that be.

[shaws]

Dr Lowe said that if we are undiagnosed, undertreated that we can develop diabetes, cancer and heart disease.

Some excerpts:-

diabetes: Despite that, some of your symptoms are most likely caused by under-treatment for your hypothyroidism. I say this because the 1 grain of Nature-Throid you’re taking is too low to provide optimal benefits to most hypothyroid patients. Endocrinologists long ago made the TSH the be-all-and-end-all for deciding hypothyroid patients’ thyroid hormone dosages. Before this costly mistake of the endocrinology specialty, patients used higher—and more effective—dosages of thyroid hormone. When they used desiccated thyroid, as you are, effective doses for most patients ranged from 2 grains up to 4 grains.[1][2] he goes on to give advice about diabetes.

Heart: Talking out of both sides of its collective mouth, the endocrinology specialty continues to treat thyroid cancer patients with TSH-suppressive dosages of thyroid hormone, while authoritatively warning hypothyroid patients and other doctors that TSH-suppressive doses are likely to cause arrhythmias and heart attacks. The specialty's self-contradicting inconsistency is so glaring that it unveils conflicts of interest that honorable people would be ashamed to be caught in.

Fibro: Those rheumatology researchers, throughout their thirty-year study of fibromyalgia, made a crucial mistake: they unquestioningly accepted as true a false belief perpetrated and perpetuated by the endocrinology specialty. That belief is that measuring the TSH and thyroid hormone levels infallibly identifies patients whose bodies are under-regulated by thyroid hormone. According to this false belief, if a patient’s levels are "normal," then too little regulation by thyroid hormone can’t possibly be the cause of any symptom he or she complains of.

The fact is, however, TSH and thyroid hormone levels are highly unreliable indicants of whose body is under-regulated by thyroid hormone. The levels are so unreliable that the testing should be abandoned as the standard method for identifying such patients.

central hypo: Dr. Lowe: Hyperthyroid patients do have low TSH levels, but a low TSH definitely does not always mean that a patient is hyperthyroid. In fact, despite your low TSH, you may be hypothyroid. If so, that will explain your hypothyroid symptoms.

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Dr Skinner and others agree that diagnosing by the TSH alone causes bigger/serious problems for the patients.

[Janinit]

I find this shocking and totally unacceptable. As I Graves patient who had RAI and was under treated for 12 years until I developed angina, and went to A & E with suspected heart attack, I will never know if I did have one, although both doctors on call were convinced I did, because the cottage hospital doctor failed to take the second blood test because he thought it better that I slept through the night, YE GODS, Anyway I went to see the cardiologist at the nearest city Hospital who said that in his opinion I did have angina and I had an angiogram which showed no atherosclerosis but an anomaly in my left coronary artery, but he blotted his copybook by saying that I definitely would not die of a heart attack whereby i made some sarcastic remark about his association with God and told him it was because my hypothyroid body was slowly giving up the ghost. To cut a long story short I went to my GP and asked to see an endocrinologist and he gave me T3 and I have had no further angina, I take propranolol for tachycardia but despite this I have never been so well for years. It beggars belief that we are treated with this kind of contempt. I am delighted that other patients are receiving the care and attention that they need but \i am very angry that we are not.

[Bob00752]

Thyroid imbalance seems to go hand in hand with diabetes. If you have type 1 diabetes and it is caused by an autoimmune response, then low thyroid can also be due to an autoimmune response (not necessarily the same one!). There is also evidence to link type 2 diabetes with low thyroid.

I was diagnosed as both diabetic type 2 and low thyroid in Nov 2012 (aged 64) and given metformin for diabetes (to lower blood glucose) and levothyroxin for low thyroid. After a year the metformin was stopped and the levothyroxin increased from 50 mcg to 75. Looking at the report from Old Westbury above, perhaps I have some affinity with a laboratory rat.....

I suspect I'm being treated as a diabetic with the risk of heart disease as I'm also on Ramipril to lower blood pressure and Pravastatin to lower cholesterol.

So far the evidence is that low thyroid and diabetes are more likely to occur together. The cause and effect theories are a little harder to substantiate experimentally or empirically!

Regards. Bob

[TSH110]

This might explain why the horrible heart pains I suffered with hypothyroidism prior to diagnosis and treatment and with levothyroxine treatment have miraculously disappeared since taking NDT.