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Hypothyroidism - or Diabetes or Adrenal Fatigue? Videos by Suzy Cohen

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I found these videos informative.

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youtube.com/watch?v=axGVCSg... - very interesting.

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Thanks Shaws - always enjoy her videos :)

If you like suzy... (isn't that nearly a song?)

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Thanks Shaws

Great videos but I assume the T3 range in U.S. is different to U.K as Suzy says T3 needs to be between 3.5 and 4.2. to feel well.

My lab range is 3.8 - 6.0 and my level is 4.4 so I am at the lower part of the range.

I wonder what the U.S level of 3.5 - 4.2 would equate to in my range?

Any idea?

browny

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to lucylocks

Ranges such as those for both FT3 and TT3 vary not only from country to country but from lab to lab. However, some countries use different units: pmol/L and pg/mL. For Free T3, the numbers for the reference ranges in each of these units are only slightly different to each other. Just enough to confuse! Not enough to be obvious.

Rod

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Hi Rod

I have just found a conversion table ctdslab.co.uk/conversion.html

If U.S use pg/ml then using this table the level of 3.5 - 4.2 pg/ml that Suzy states to feel well equates to 5.3 - 6.4 pmol/L

as mine is 4.4 pmol/L no wonder I am sill not feeling right.

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to lucylocks

I feel that without knowing for sure both the units and the ranges, you simply cannot make this sort of comparison other than as a very general "Hmm, maybe that is why and I need to look further?" We are all, as we so often say, individual!

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lucylocks in reply to helvella

Yes you are right but going by my range I am at the low end, level 4.4

range 3.8 - 6.00

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helvellaAdministratorThyroid UK in reply to lucylocks

I agree there! :-)

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Mary Shomon suggests optimal FT3 for most people will be in the top quartile of range. In your case 5.45+ (6.0-3.8 = 2.2x0.75 = 1.65+3.8 = 5.45)

My pig of an endo is content for my FT3 to languish below range. Pah!

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lucylocks in reply to Clutter

Hi

Thanks for that, I saw the endo's registra at last appt.

and all she kept saying was my TSH was suppressed

and said to reduce dose, I said I thought T4 and T3 were suppose be top end of range to feel well, and again she said well your TSH is suppressed.

She then said see you in 3 months.

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Clutter in reply to lucylocks

I dont understand why she felt suppressed TSH is a big deal. Mine's suppressed 0.03 post ThyCa. FT3 & FT4 were below range & low in range respectively and i was told see you in 6 months.

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shawsAdministrator in reply to lucylocks

Well, there appears to be conflicting statements in the endocrinology i.e. - 1 - that suppressed TSH leads to heart or bone problems whereas - 2 - those who have had thyroid gland cancer have to have suppressed TSH level. Of course some people may feel better with a higher TSH but Dr Lowe said it is better to have a low or suppressed TSH where patients are still complaining when they are kept 'within range' as they are more likely to develop other serious diseases and take medication other than thyroid hormone to control clinical symptoms which are deemed by Endos/doctors not due to lack of thyroid hormones.

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Thanks Shaws. Also found this which is an article covering similar ground with a bigger list of vitamin/mineral deficiencies and other factors. The video is easier to take in!

health.howstuffworks.com/hu...

Bob (hypothyroidism + diabetes type 2 .... still trying to find which caused which though I see beta blockers got a mention and I was on those for 12 years until 18 months ago!)

Bob

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shawsAdministrator in reply to Bob00752

Thanks Bob. It does complicate things when you have two diseases to cope with. I also read previously that beta-blockers can affect the uptake of levo.

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MSC56

Thank you so much for these videos! They make so much sense and she makes it easy to understand. I have adrenal fatigue, spent a small fortune on supplements and all I need is Vit. B5 and some licorice or ginseng! What a difference, just bought some licorice tea yesterday so my body knew better then the doctor I was seeing! This video is so useful..now to get my GP to put me on Nature-Throid! I am going to sign up for Suzy Cohen's videos on Youtube, thanks again!

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I just wanted to add liquorice is dependent on the form you take it, in some forms it can cause you problems especially if you have thyroid/adrenal problems etc

(It's always best to Google your condition and add licorice ) - it's just like peanuts I read

if you have thyroid issues that they were to be avoided - amongst a few others, anyway happy new year.

Always do your homework with supplements!

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shawsAdministrator in reply to Dad72

Dr Peatfield advised a Siberian Ginseng & Liquorice Tincture which comes in a small 30ml bottle with dropper.by Nutri.. It does last for ages as you only use drops.

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Dad72 in reply to shaws

Please read this page for a better understanding -

naturalendocrinesolutions.c...

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shawsAdministrator in reply to Dad72

Thanks - that was very interesting.

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