Heart rate seems strange...

[Gillybean129]

For the past few days ,I've had this sensation, no pain, just like a bit of a tightness then a stronger beat or maybe it's a just like a thumpy/ stronger type of beat that I'm more aware of, just now and again, weird usually when I'm resting I notice it, don't notice at work or if I'm occupied...I'm hypo not hyper and had recent bloods with TSH 1.2 which is of course 'normal'

[roslin]

I have it too

nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/enc...

gp is not concerned

Roslin

[Gillybean129 in reply to roslin]

Thanks Roslin, useful info, I'm under a lot of pressure at the moment it might be that's not helping, alcohol makes no difference, can't drink too much these days anyway much more susceptible being hypo.

[roslin in reply to Gillybean129]

I know what you mean, difficult at Christmas.

Roslin

[Gillybean129 in reply to roslin]

It is, plus I have been really busy at work, I think the other home pressures (carer for Mum with dementia) and my disabled brother is in hospital are adding to it. I feel exhausted most of the time.

[Jackie in reply to roslin]

Hi See my reply on the main site.

Jackie

[marram]

Gillybean, what is normal? 1.2 for me would be too high. I am only well if my TSH is below 1. Or rather, I am only well if my T3 is high enough, regardless of what my TSH is, but usually that means 0.01. There are others on this forum who feel fine with a TSH of 2.9.

Why should that be? Because TSH is not a thyroid hormone, it is a pituitary hormone. It tells you absolutely nothing about what is happening in the thyroid. it is a Thyroid Stimulating hormone. Please forgive me if you already know all this!

If your car broke down, and you took it to the garage, would you be happy if they said to you "Well, your car's got plenty of petrol. There's no reason why it should not be starting." You would say, "Well, why don't you check the actual engine? Is the fuel pipe blocked? Is the battery flat? There has to be a reason why it's not working." Then the mechanic sends you away with a flea in your ear and says "It's all in your mind, there's nothing wrong with the car, I've checked the fuel gauge and it is showing full."

You would not be very impressed with his skills as a mechanic, would you? Yet we happily (well, I used to) accept the doctor's conclusion that our thyroid function is normal on the basis of the measurement of a PITUITARY hormone!

This pituitary hormone is a messenger. And, just because the messenger is working fine, there's no guarantee that your thyroid is actually obeying the messenger. There are only two ways you can know that. First is how you feel. (If you feel ill, you ARE ill. Despite what they try to tell us, that's the way the body works.) The second is by measuring the levels of the actual thyroid hormones. T4 and T3. If you feel ill and they are low, then you don't have enough thyroxine to function properly. If you feel ill and they are not low, then the system has broken down somewhere else.

That sensation - palpitations - is very common in hypothyroidism, but before assuming that it can only be the thyroid, it is useful to have your vitamins and minerals checked.

Low iron is often associated with hypo and could be the cause. Vit B12, vit D, all need to be well up in the normal range, or optimal, for your thyroxine to be adequately used in the body. It may be worth asking for these to be checked. This link has a lot on information in vitamins and thyroid deficiency:

thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/treatm...

I saw you had some information about this before, did you manage to get them checked?

Ifg all these have been dealt with, then really you are only left with checking the Free T4 and T3 to see if your levels are low, which could be causing this sensation.

Marie XX

[Gillybean129 in reply to marram]

Marie, my GP won't test for anything other than the TSH if you're in the range you're 'normal' it's maddening, I take Vit D, and selenium though I have no idea of my levels, I just know if I don't I become 'achey'. Short of changing GP's which I don't want to do are they are convenient I'm stuck.

[Loobs39 in reply to Gillybean129]

I do know that the heartbeat you describe is one of the signs of B12 deficiency (along with dry and sore skin in the corner of your mouth/lips) - this was how I was first diagnosed as being B12 deficient (a year before I was diagnosed as being Hypo) and it did pretty much clear up with the loading injections I was given (one every 2 days for 2 weeks). I now have 3 monthly jabs but after next weeks blood test suspect I will be seen to need them more often.

[Gillybean129 in reply to Loobs39]

Interesting, though I don't have your other symptoms...

[Loobs39 in reply to Gillybean129]

There was a third one which she mentioned and which I had but I can't remember what it was - if I do I will let you know!

[Gillybean129 in reply to Loobs39]

Thank you Loobs!

[marram in reply to Gillybean129]

I had the same as you, Gillybean, but my B12 was actually very high. But I DID have VERY low Vit D and Ferritin, but I was also very underdosed and could not use the Levo, so it could have been any of those problems. I am on T3 now, and also supplementing all the deficiencies. It's a blooming merry-go-round, ain't it!

[Gillybean129 in reply to marram]

Hi Marram, it is a merry-go-round would love to get tested for all the vitamins and minerals x

[Heloise in reply to Gillybean129]

Gilly, get an absorbable form of magnesium like magnesium glycinate or a topical solution of magnesium or even a liquid form that can be taken internally. Make sure of the difference. This is common for palpitations even though everyone doesn't agree, it works for a lot of people.

[Jackie]

Hi Sounds like Atrial Fibrillation, A.F. Very common but needs identifying.Hard to diagnose, and ECG will not show it, unless very lucky. First medical test, for 2 weeks check your H. R ( pulse) 3 times a day manually, to include "funny" beats. then chart them. Take to GP, if uneven, especially at the time of checking. It is an intermittent problem Then ask for a home monitor 24 hour or better still 7 day. When result back, if it is this ask for a referral to a Cardio dealing in abnormal rhythyms, not a genera one..It is also important to have your U& E`s checked, kidney function for electrolytes, Also do not take magnesium, unless on a script monitored. Lots in food is goodEven better if youcan have a two tests, one for corrected calcium and one for magnesium ( tiny range), These with sodium and Potassium must always be in range as electrolytes.

Jackie

[roslin in reply to Jackie]

Hi jackie

I am waiting for a 24 hr trace and at my blood test on on tuesday I will ask to have this done. never know if it will be tested though.

Thank you

Roslin

[Jackie in reply to roslin]

Hi The electrolytes are vital, kidney and heart. I have cardiac arrests if my potassium not right for me. I have it tested 2 a week but still have to adjust and take loads of Potassium, in itself extremely dangerous. Potassium arrests are the most lethal causes of arrsts, sudden death, all ages. I think yours sounds like just a very common A.F, which is not too bad but does need anticoagulation to prevent strokes. it is also important to watch the electrolytes, calcium ( especially if on vit D, Potassium and sodium ( U`s` and E`s) and magnesium ( separate test). Gp`s have little understanding of this. It does come under Endo remit, but needs to be good. Even some Cardio`s very ignorant!

If having the monitor make sure very active!

Jackie

[trw99]

what colour is your hair

mine is red

doctor say red heads have a higher threshold on pain