IBS and sittibg

[Sttbngi]

Hey...

I have ibs symptoms like bloating, fluttering, spasms and intense pain. Thankfully d and c don’t seem to be a huge component. Anyway, I find that sitting really aggravates the area under my belly button across the front of my lower stomach, basically wher the top of your pants ride. Do any of you find that is an issue as well? When I sit it starts hurting and then all I can do is focus on it which makes it worse I am sure. Anyone find any ways that you have overcome the mental part of it? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. I am new to this and Covid restrictions are making getting to a doctor impossible.

Thank you for your time!

[Maureen1958]

Hi, I am sitting here now feeling like you have described. I think I might have made the wrong choice today and I should have gone back to the loo. When I feel like this I sit in a comfortable chair, ie settee and sit back so I don't squash my tummy. It helps a bit. But I can do that as I have nothing particular to do today. You may not be in that enviable situation! I also find shallow breathing helps a bit but that might just be me!

[Sttbngi in reply to Maureen1958]

Thanks!! I hope you feel better. I am going to try the breathing.

[Readingnana]

I am so interested to read that sitting has that effect on someone else. I thought it was just me. The area just above my belly button and to either side is where I get a lot of pain and sitting puts pressure on that area, making it worse. Its good to know im not the only one.

[Sttbngi in reply to Readingnana]

I am sorry you hurt too. Hopefully you find something that helps you.

[xjrs]

Have you been diagnosed with IBS from having these tests?:nhs.uk/conditions/irritable...

If you have been diagnosed, have you been getting any help with it? Here is some information about IBS that I have shared with others in this group in case any of these tips are of interest to you:

IBS can be due to a number or combination of factors - these can be stress (including stress from early life experiences) which impacts the communication between the brain and the digestive system. There are lots of free webinars online at the moment regarding mindfulness meditation which might help. Plus you can ask to be referred for CBT or something similar to reduce anxiety - I would have thought online appointments are available. Exercise can play a major role in IBS in terms of reducing stress, helping your gut microbiome and regulating bowel movements.

There is also not absorbing certain types of carbohydrates called FODMAPs very well, the residue ending up in the colon and bacteria feeding off them causing symptoms. Ordinarily feeding gut bacteria is a really good thing - when you feed good gut bacteria these produce by-products that have great health effects in the gut and throughout the body. However, in some people with IBS bad bugs might have the upper hand over good - these bad bugs may cause symptoms such as excess gas, pain or disordered bowel movements. There is an interesting infographic on this here:

gutmicrobiotaforhealth.com/....

This is why it’s worth trying probiotics such as Alflorex (which has been scientifically studied for IBS) or Symprove to crowd out the bad bugs and make their numbers die down. If that doesn't work you can try the FODMAP elimination and reintroduction diet. This is normally under the guidance of a nutritionist via GP referral - this may not be possible at the moment so you can read about it online. If you download the Monash University FODMAP app and Kings College fodmap apps, they will tell you which foods contain FODMAPs and in what quantities. You can eliminate all FODMAPs for 2 weeks and then introduce each type of FODMAP one at a time starting in small quantities, increasing over a 3 day period and wait up to 4 days for symptoms. I go much slower than this - only introducing a small amount (1/4 to 1/3 of a normal portion size) of the same food for 3 days and then increase if tolerable or no symptoms and cut back to the previous amount if symptoms for longer and then try to increment again . I've read your microbiome can adapt to handling a new food if introduced very slowly and your bad bugs are under control with a good probiotic. Ideally you want to eat as many FODMAPs as you can since they are good for your health. Many people with IBS don't have diverse gut bacteria - it has been found that people who lack a diverse microbiome are more prone to diseases in general. In the long run, if you can get your symptoms under control, the ideal situation is to have a very varied diet - lots of different coloured fruits and vegetables, a variety of protein and carbohydrate sources including cereal fibres. This may seem a long way off, but with the right treatment all of this is possible. Last year all I could consume to control my IBS was white rice, protein and limited low fodmap veg. Using the approach above (particularly introducing Alflorex) I am now able to consume far more foods - more than I've ever dreamed of including wholewheat bread which is unheard of for me.

If you are also suffering from pain, you may be suffering from visceral hypersensitivity (functional abdominal pain) - there is info about it here:

iffgd.org/lower-gi-disorder...

It is where the brain interprets the normal activity of the bowel as pain - this is due to a wearing down of neurons in pain control centres of the brain which can be caused by PTSD, neglect or abuse in childhood, extreme stressful events etc. The first line treatment is nerve pain agents such as low dose amitriptyline. There is a theory that being on something like amitriptyline for 6-12 months can help the pain control centre neurons to regenerate. Note that amitriptyline can cause constipation, but this can be helpful in people who are diarrhea dominant. Unfortunately I couldn't tolerate these. Linaclotide (for IBS-C only) & Alflorex have helped me with this intestinal pain.

You may also find assistance with anti-spasmodic medication such as mebeverine (Colofac) or enteric coated peppermint.

You can find some info on self management here:

theibsnetwork.org/the-self-...

If all of the usual IBS remedies fail and you are experiencing diarrhea, it is worth getting tested for BAM (Bile Acid Malabsorption), which can cause constant diarrhea - there is a separate test and treatment for that. Good luck.

[Sttbngi]

I am doing the Fodmap diet right now. I am on day 4 of it and I have to say that I believe I am seeing a little improvement from my symptoms. However I do think I do suffer from some functional abdominal pain too. I spent the day yesterday on my feet no additional symptoms. However today, I spent about an hour bending over picking up empty boxes at my job and afterwards had quite a lot of pain and bloating feeling. I find IBS very frustrating since there are so many components of it.

I can’t thank you enough for your information. I really appreciate your response and the care you put into what you sent. Thank you!