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Hi,

After my most recent pharmaceutical irritation, I’m considering trying CBD oil in a steady way. I am concerned about being able to survive when I travel internationally, but that is another thought....

My question is: Does anyone have an idea of how much it will cost per month to use CBD oil regularly?? I live in Alaska and can get the real deal legally. I could even grow plants myself, but I kill plants so....meh. I’m thinking of CBD oil tinctures or capsule. I’m just not sure how I can go about it and if it’s going to be seriously expensive. Any idea?

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Hi Roselynn I've been using CBD for quite a while now to help manage my IBS symptoms - I've found it especially helps with tiredness/fatique and certainly helps with sleep and mood too - I've found my IBS is seriously exacerbated by stress/anxiety. You can buy CBD oil at wholesale price (from $88.89 for 30 day supply) in Alaska through this website kannaway.com/?8762823 we've found that not all CBD products are created equally but these products are organically grown, triple lab tested and contain at least 66.5% CBD so you can be sure that they are among the most CBD rich hemp oil products available anywhere.

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Thank you. I’m hoping that cbd oil might help with inflammation. I also tend to be a tightly wound and anxious person. Over the last year my doctor, chiropractor, and physical therapist have told me I need to focus on relaxing and mellow out. Lol I asked them “ how do you do that?” I’m thinking a good quality cbd oil product may help with all of these things in a better way than the pharmaceuticals I’ve tried.

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CBD certainly does help with mood stability and with stress and anxiety, the pure gold oil has helped me so much as I used to suffer with panic attacks and bouts of anxiety finding it very difficult to find time to relax. This is a great article from Kannaway's parent company Medical Marijuana Inc. which explains how CBD has been shown to dramatically improve anxiety disorders. medicalmarijuanainc.com/anx... There are sample packs of the CBD oil available on the website if you'd like to try a week's supply of CBD oil to see how you get on - there's also the option to purchase all products at wholesale price - and even for free when you refer 3 people kannaway.com/?8762823 - if you would like further information, please feel free to email us at ecogarden@wikaniko.co.uk . We hope that you give our CBD oil a try and we'd love to know how you get on. Kindest Regards - James and Laura Mann xx

Hi Roselyn - there is a saying we are what we eat - but if we are eating crap are we crap?

May be you should change your tack as if you have alternating constipation and the runs

then may be there are other ways at looking at your lifestyle which sounds hectic.

If you are nervous about taking something unknown such as cannabis oil especially if you are travelling, this could upset your digestion. Some folk get spasm in the colon and this can be helped by an antispasmodic drug which has few or little side effects.( Merbeverine)Other people take a fibre gel - to absorb excess water in the large bowel so they feel comfortable.

Have you tried food intolerance tests which you can buy online - you just send a prick sample to the labs and they send you back your results ? Amazon.com does one with 64 different foods to test. I had a similar smart test in the UK. I discovered numerous food intolerances which when removed improved the condition. It is now known in the US that

multigrain allergies, dairy egg, can trigger IBS. I don't know about your medical services

where you live but if you make a list of the foods you eat every day may be they are milk wheat eggs rye, barley, butter cream yoghurt cottage cheese hard cheese French cheese

As you know dairy can affect your cholesterol levels especially fatty cheese. As you have had your gall bladder removed then probably your medical advice says to avoid fatty foods.

If by some luck and you have dairy and egg intolerance then the IBS with the fats and with lactase, or milk protein might affect your bowel. If you eat bread - and you have a grain intolerance this another one which I raising the histamines in your system. If you have dairy gluten and egg , intolerances these are recognised as Celiac disease affecting the colon. There are deficiencies such as zinc and copper and magnesium and potassium which can create pain muscle spasm and pain. Think you will be pathing up the problem

with cannabis oil and you should seek a range of tests including thyroid and pre diabetes.

You have not got time to stop - so you may think that food intolerance tests are a waste of time. I can say that they help you find out what is an irritant and after a few days removing them you can feel a whole lot better. jessicamaddenmd.com is a helpful site linked to thepatientceliac.com from a professional MD who has experienced these symptoms. Here articles include Mast cell activation syndrome and another concerning multi food intolerances. She recommends that an antihistamine prescribed daily can cut down the allergic response. However if you have already taken these and have Multifood intolerances they may not control the histamine response - you have to remove the foods.

Think you are a brave person -take care.

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I’ve done some food intolerance tests by eliminating some foods for many days at a time. I’ve found that I am definitely gluten intolerant and surprisingly pretty much intolerant to most grains and beans. I’ve had tests for celiac and am not. I agree that food plays a huge part in my gut reaction. I try to be grain free, but am not 100%. Living in such a perpetually dark/ rainy location, I am definitely vitamin D deficient which leads to magnesium deficiency and probably calcium deficiency. It’s like an autoimmune disease trap when you don’t get enough sun, I think.

Thank you for your ideas and your reply. I think I’m going to tighten up my diet and be more strict with a low-fodmap foods protocol.

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Hi Roselynn - not sure about your medical services delineation of celiac disease as you have been told you are not - but many people may not fit into the limited criteria of test range and don't consider food intolerances such as wheat barley rye rice maize malt in barley, squashes malt vinegar, in mayonnaise. Tests are mainly for gluten and egg and dairy That's the trouble you think you are ok but there are foods you love and are eating everyday which may be causing problems. I love bananas but have a moderate to severe intolerance - which would not be tested for in many celiac tests. You go home being told you are normal when celiac disease concerns food intolerances which affect you. Hope the fod map works for you but it still might not if there are known triggers to set you off. You are quite right about vitamin D and the B vitamins especially B12. If you know you have a food intolerance to gluten then this is a prime diagnostic for celiac and thyroid disease - so if you have not mentioned gluten as a problem and have not seen a thyroid specialist or had blood taken for thyroid you are none the wiser.

You can get vitamin D1 2 and 3 through supplements and food such as omega oils, butter and some spreads. D3 is the sunshine vitamin and must be hard to find without sunlight as it is activated in the skin by sunlight! Pretty cold here in the UK. You must be tough to withstand your climate!

Hi Roselynn - draxe.com/sibo symptoms Dr Axe describes in detail how Sibo mirrors

certain symptoms of IBS. It can be tested for by a breath test. Have you had tests for candida or Sibo?

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I have not had the SIBO test nor candida test. I came upon SIBO information by accident when I was studying up on this horrible medicine my doctor prescribed for me. The description of SIBO ticks off a lot of boxes for me.

In regard to your letter about celiac, thyroid, and food intolerance.... oh my, yes, food can be a hell or a poison! My husband is allergic to raw banana, various tree nuts, and dairy protein. One of my daughters is allergic to various tree nuts. Another daughter is allergic to corn and egg whites. Corn is in so many of our food products! Thankfully she is an adult now, but when my corn allergic child was at home, it was very difficult feeding her.

To top off all of these known and unknown food allergies..... I had been seeing an endocrinologist because I have polycystic ovary syndrome. This usually goes hand in hand with an underlying Hashimoto’s thyroiditis. He said he was sure my thyroid was going to crash and burn. This was over twelve years ago. Anytime I get the regular thyroid panel from my current gp, the panel comes back normal. However, out of the blue, my husband and two of my children have been diagnosed with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis now! Another of my children diagnosed with Crohn’s disease. And another child with autoimmune psoriasis! I keep telling my two thyroid-untested kids that they should get tested for Hashimoto’s too. I wonder where all of these autoimmune diseases spring from? It’s insane. I could blame lack of sun, but my kid who was diagnosed with a very bad case of Hashimoto’s has been living in sunny Queensland, Australia for the past 9 years.

All in all, I’ve decided to tweak my diet and take some supplements and see where things go. This last stint with the doctor was severely disappointing. If my insurance would cover naturopathic medicine, I would try going in that direction for guidance. Instead, I’m just doing hours and hours of online research.

Hi Roselynn you are obviously looking after yourself well detecting all these autoimmune problems. Gluten has been linked to a lot of bowel diseases and to learning difficulties such as with autism. You might be able to send your last thyroid test to thyroid unlocked for the administrators to interpret. There are cuts so sometimes they don't do the full test.

Cuts mean T3 is not being prescribed for hypo. As you know gluten is the main food to avoid with hashis. Think you are on the right track with Sibo test as it ticks a lot of boxes.

Have told my daughter that her cysts are linked to her thyroid. She is hypo rather than has hashis. She had a bout of bad pain which was linked to stones on kidney which were eventually she passed - she had a large cyst which could break open but they were not too worried about it. She is on levo thyroxine, She is going through a peri menopause with fibroids. Women have all these female illnesses which are a trial. Have been reading some information concerning fibroids cysts with links to diet deficiency. Vitamin K is essential as well as vitamin d. Do you like cucumber? If so it is high in vitamin K. |It is usually made in the colon. but is found in some meats . Have you read anything about DAO deficiency which can be due to in turn to copper and zinc deficiency. The enzyme deficiency can cause symptoms of IBS. The copper and zinc can be found in chocolate. Other deficiencies which can upset your intestines are magnesium and potassium found in tomatoes Can send you a few threads which might be of interest. You can buy magnesium pillules and milk of magnesia and magnesium carbonate in peppermint indigestion tablets through your pharmacu or supermarket. Tonic water may help with cramps and spasms in the gut and elsewhere as it contains quinine. Surprising how many ordinary foods can help IBS. I like California syrup of figs but

love cooked apples to help the digestion. Final tip - your water supply might have a high level of iron which can make you constipated. it may have natural level of fluoride which are too high and can damage your thyroid. Using a water filter for iron and other chemicals like chlorine added in the water can help. I find I am so sensitive to water taste I have o filter water several times. Some bottled waters are recognised to help with kidneys and cystitis.

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I will have to look up this DAO deficiency. I think I have zinc deficiency and one of my friends suggested I may have a need for copper and I have yet to really delve into that. I am always struggling with maintaining a good level of magnesium and B vitamins. I tend to struggle with muscle spasms. I swear my chocolate cravings are directly related to mineral deficiencies. It would be nice to be getting all of these vitamins and minerals from food/ environmental sources and not be taking supplements!!

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Think that this might be a good idea. I went on a diet using coconut milk with d2 added, and after a few days changing from lactose to the coconut milk I had cramps in my thighs, It was weird - they just came out of the blue at night. So I went back to lactase free milk and have remained ok. I did a bit of research on possible deficiencies and magnesium and potassium were recommended so I took an indigestion tablet

with magnesium carbonate - lo! The spasm stopped. This tip was found on the thyroid unlocked website under a post written by Heloise who links US conferences with

her experience as an unpaid PR for thyroid unlocked. Her main area of research is the vagal nerve and she knows the effects of thyroid disease on the muscular system and the gut. She is well worth following and asking about the effects on the gut. She knows of all the endos with varied experience and has a different perspective than the mainstream. According to a brief research on copper and zinc deficiency 70 percent of folk who have the DAO deficiency may have a copper deficiency and a secondary zinc deficiency. The other 30 percent may have this from genetics. It is this trial and error approach that may help you find what is going on!

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Wow chocolate cravings - that sounds you have found part of the key to your problem.

The contact for Colospa ie Mebevrine hydrochloride in the US is telephone

1-718-487-9792 trustpharm365.com. The only thing is that dark chocolate can increase constipation. However the list of foods given on Foods high in copper and zinc

may help you include foods to give you the daily requirement of copper and zinc.

Wikipaedia is useful to ask for daily requirement of zinc and copper plus other info sites. Dairy might interfere with the absorption of copper so if you have a dairy free breakfast - with foods with zinc and copper in them for breakfast then you can have a couple of squares of chocolate later in the day or hot cocoa drink made without dairy but soya milk or coconut milk to name a few milk substitutes. If you eat meat sea food kale chick peas or muesli made with substitute mlk with sunflower seeds oats and foods on the list you can get round the constipation problem with dairy.

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Found this article which explained what DAO deficiency is and what vitmins and minerals can help - B6 B12 Vitamins Copper but other research suggests zinc helps

as well. suzycohen.com article/histamine intolerance is brill.

PS looking up "Foods high in copper and zinc" gives loads of sites with lists

draxe.com - food data.com - livestrong.com. Thanks for helping to find these foods. Dark chocolate contains both -one square contains .9mg of copper.

If you can eat beef liver it is higher. Zinc does not stay in the system so is safe to eat in foods but copper supplements could be too high on a daily supplement. Copper is the main cause of DAO -enzyme deficiency . Sunflower seeds lentils almonds dried apricots and raisins and other dried fruit. seafood avocado lobster pork beef and beef liver are are some of the many foods you can find copper and zinc in.

Can you get a Sibo stool test from your health provider?

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I’m not sure if they do SIBO stool testing, though they do the breath tests here.

I was looking at vitamin supplements today and checking for copper amongst the minerals. I like the idea of eating more seafood, though. Wouldn’t that be great to have a doctor prescribe lobster?! Lol I will also start prescribing myself a high quality dark chocolate ( not my favorite, I love milk chocolate 🤷🏻‍♀️) . It’s supposed to be good for the heart, as well.

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Think sea food is great - do you have a good choice of fish crab prawns in your area?

Supplements of zeaxanthin and lutein might help. High supplement of lobster and other shell fish - it's the deep pink which provides zeaxanthin. Do you have a good supply of frozen berries such as blackberries, blackcurrants and blue berries? Raspberries bilberries too contain polyphenols which stimulate your metabolism

We have a good supplement for zinc in seven seas zinc and vitamin berries. After 18 months after a virus which knocked out my husbands taste buds so could not taste any food at all - after a couple of weeks on the zinc and vitamins c berries he could taste food again. Isn't that a miracle?

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