Beth Chapman

[kduck]

It saddens me, she lost her battle with cancer. She fought a good fight. God bless her!

[Onie54]

Sad 😢

[Francesca10 in reply to Onie54]

So sad

[Hidden]

😢 may she rest in peace

[Barbteeth]

I’d rather not knowBarb xx

[obeautifulgirl in reply to Barbteeth]

You raise a good point. Should deaths not be reported on this blog?

[kduck in reply to obeautifulgirl]

Don't read! It's about a wonderful lady who just like us fought cancer and her battle is no more, sorry if it did not concern you!

[SeattleMom in reply to kduck]

Hello, kduck! Somehow I missed name of our member who passed? Did you mention in an earlier post? Linda

[PJBinMI in reply to Barbteeth]

I don't mind knowing! Especially when it is a member of a group I have joined--better to know than to wonder what happened to them......... We all die eventually, whether we have cancer or not!

[kduck in reply to Barbteeth]

If u didnt wanna know dont read!

[Hidden in reply to kduck]

Kduck — I’m unsure if you realize how dismissive your reply comes across. Barb is a thoughtful contributor to this site and has shared her difficult experiences. She understandably comes to this site for assurance and to vent her very real concerns. Unfortunately I read your response this way: If you don’t like it, tough. I want to believe that was not your intention. I sincerely ask that you re-visit how your comments can be received. I appreciate you feel sad about this person (I confess I had to google her to figure out who she is so I don’t have your connection). Perhaps you will be gracious enough to cut Barb (and me) some slack. I’ve sincerely tried to phrase this as a respectful request. I hope you will accept it in that spirit. We all strive to help each other here and thrive because it’s the kind of support that we treasure. Thank you.

[nstonerocks in reply to Hidden]

Very sensitive and kind response. I too think Kduck’s post was rough on Barb. This is a tough “situation” we are all in. Hearing about a cancer death is a punch in the gut for me. It’s not that I don’t care. I am very sad that anyone has to go through this and suffer. But as someone with incurable cancer, it is personal and reminds me that if an asteroid doesn’t land on me, I face a similar future. We have different capacities to handle this news in general, and it depends on where we are at on any given day. Barb meant no disrespect. I’m venturing that it was more a reflection on how this news affects her. Let’s keep it compassionate, and give one another the benefit of the doubt if we are not in the same page.

[kduck in reply to nstonerocks]

Im so sorry, but it hurt my feelings about her response. We are all fighting the same fight! I DID NOT mean to come off rude nor mean because im neither.

[nstonerocks in reply to kduck]

And that’s why I said it was your post that was harsh. I don’t think for a moment you are rude or uncaring or you wouldn’t be a supportive voice on this board. So is Barb. I’m putting myself out there, but I’d bet anything that she didn’t mean to be disrespectful or hurtful. This kind of news is hard to take because we are on the same path. It becomes very personal, and sometimes unhinges the best of us and sends us into a bit of a tailspin. It does for me, anyway. I think that’s what Barb meant. So hugs all around, and prayers for the Chapman family. 💕🙏

[Hidden in reply to nstonerocks]

Thanks Nan. Kduck’s feelings were hurt so she lashed out at Barb. I’m grateful she realized that lashing out was unhelpful. Barb - please continue to share your insights and experience. I’ve found them helpful. When you comment how hard this horrible experience is for you, and how unkind some friends and family can be, it helps me to know that we have shared experiences. You help me learn how to manage challenges myself. Your medical knowledge is useful to me Barb. Be well everyone.

[Godbeforme in reply to Barbteeth]

2 down now 3 to go? I lost count! My ANC was 18.8 yesterday YAY! it came up from 1.67! had to share my good news! God bless you and heal us all in Jesus name, amen! <3 xo

[Nmartinez15 in reply to Godbeforme]

Sorry for my ignorance. What is ANC?

[Godbeforme in reply to Nmartinez15]

absolute neutrophil count; I have learned in the past week that there are 5 different kinds of white blood cells and the neutrophils are the ones who can go to any organ or part of the body to fight infection that we all carry already in our bodies. In our mouths, guts, etc. everyone has bacteria. so I am trying to wrap my head around all this because the ibrance commercials says may cause infection that may lead to death and in my understanding that means I need to keep an eye on what my levels are, so I was tickled when mine actually came UP yesterday to 1,880 to be exact! It's on your CBC under neut ANC, at least that's how it shows up on mine. I take letrozole daily and ibrance 5 days on and 2 days off, as I've heard other women have success with this dosing. The jury is still out on this though as they are in the 2nd year of a trial using this dose pattern. It has worked for me, so far, this is only my second cycle at 100 mg. and my neutrophils haven't dropped below 1,600; my reasoning is ... infection can kill me a lot faster than cancer ever would. Yes, I am blissfully naive to a point. God bless you and heal us all in Jesus name, amen! <3

[Nmartinez15 in reply to Godbeforme]

Ohn okay! Mine were low too. 1.4 and my onc stop Ibrance for a month.

[Godbeforme in reply to Nmartinez15]

I had read that the 5/2 schedule allows the bone marrow to recover, that's why I decided to go that route from the get-go. About the ANC, the doctor said, I'll make a deal with you, we usually go down to 1,000, but if yours drop below 1.5, I will lower the dose to 75 mg. because I have to tell ibrance the reason why, and I said tell them because their commercials say, 'may cause low white blood cell counts and infections leading to death'. Tell them it's their own commercials that have people, well me anyway, concerned about wbc's, and I would die much slower with cancer than from sepsis caused by an infection! Of course, I always tell him how much I appreciate his putting up with me because alot of doctors you just can't speak your mind with, they get offended, so I really do appreciate being able to talk openly with him about my thoughts on the matter. He is really intelligent and rational thinking doesn't ruffle his feathers. He also told me that after the first few cycles of ibrance, your numbers stay pretty much stay the same, so if I haven't dropped below 1,500 and I'm halfway through my 2nd treatment, then 1,500 is no more susceptible to getting an infection than a person who is NOT on ibrance or has cancer. Hope this helps someone, I put it all out there and you can eat the meat and spit out the bones, but the bible says "my people perish for lack of knowledge" and no matter how good your doctor is, you are ultimately responsible for listening to that still small voice of the Holy Spirit, guiding you in the way you should go; and reading and learning to navigate your own path because at the end of the day, it is YOUR LIFE they are trying to save and always nice to have an active participating patient!

[Nmartinez15 in reply to Godbeforme]

I am expecting that my onc lower to 75mg and I don't care why Ibrance/Pfizer have to said. I was on 125mg and it was not fun. Someone here said that I will get the same results with 75 mg than 125mg and they just want to sale the higher dose to make more money. Thanks you for the info. I always love hear other experience.

[Godbeforme in reply to Nmartinez15]

you're welcome! all different dosages of ibrance cost the same price from what I've heard; anyone know for sure?

[Barbteeth in reply to Godbeforme]

The 125 and 100 mg cost the same as I remember when I saw the receipts

Barb xx

[Godbeforme in reply to Barbteeth]

ty

[Stage4Gir in reply to Godbeforme]

Thanks for posting this. Although I know the neutrophils are important I didn’t really know why. Knowledge is power and I like to know the reasons behind things but I find that Drs aren’t always willing to explain so grateful for this info. Thanks much. Debbi

[Godbeforme in reply to Stage4Gir]

yw ... I had never heard of a neutrophil! when I had my lumpectomy and rads in 2013, they never took blood markers, they never did a bone scan, nada, and I opted out of chemo so never went through this before. I believe knowledge is power too, and reading WITH understanding brings wisdom! God bless you and heal us all in Jesus name, amen! <3 xo

[Barbteeth in reply to Godbeforme]

Hey that’s brilliant..you must be feeling chuffed...can you sort of tell?... I guess it’s different when red cell count drops as it makes us feel tired...hope it continues 😊

Yes I have 3 more radiotherapy sessions next week...today was fine...went out as planned and even had a short ride out but tired now

Book and bed

Barb xx

[Godbeforme in reply to Barbteeth]

aha! almost done! good for you and hoping and praying with you for great results, health and longevity in the name above all names, the name of Jesus, amen! <3 xo

[Barbteeth in reply to Godbeforme]

And I wish the very same to you

You’re a kind lady

Barb xx

[Godbeforme in reply to Barbteeth]

thank you; I really appreciate your support!

[Justme153]

So Sorry there just are no words to comfort at these times.

[blms]

Who

[mariootsi in reply to blms]

Dog and Beth Chapman have had a tv show in America called Dog the Bounty Hunter for many years. They were a team along with their family.

[HopeinNJ]

❤️❤️❤️

[mariootsi]

Sooo sad. God bless her. I pray for her family.

I met Beth and Dog when I lived in Hollywood. I went to one of their book signings.

They were both so nice.

[Rhwright12]

🙏🏻💕

[Have-faith]

Hard to hear or read these things, bit remember everyone's journey is different. I read she had stopped traditional meds and was trying just natural approaches. Her cancer from what I understand did not originate as breast cancer. Everyone's story is different. Continue to do what works for you. Faith

[nstonerocks in reply to Have-faith]

Amen

[Godbeforme]

I loved Beth and Dog, too! She taught us a lesson, if you want to try other treatments, go ahead, but ALSO listen to the specialists and do the scientific treatment. At least that's what I get out of this, so sad, RIP Beth Chapman!

[Becca65]

Perhaps we should start a new thread or subject, to cover people who we lose. I for one would like to know when a sister has fallen. That way you can choose to read in that topic or not to?

[Barbteeth in reply to Becca65]

I would choose not to

Just me

Barb xx

[Oakhillbull]

I saddens me too. From what I understand she did real well for some time then got sick again. I think that is my biggest fear. I have been doing so good lately and fear one day it will hit me again hard. God bless Beth.

[Hidden]

Kduck -

Very sad news, thank you for sharing. This gives everyone an opportunity to keep her and her family in their thoughts. As a community, I hope we can share and recognize sad news, especially since that is part of our common journey, as we hold hand, virtually, walking down this path.

I happen not to be religious, but I do believe that there is likely an afterlife, and I believe that those who have passed might be able to sense any thoughts or love that we send. I am saddened to think that all of the women I've gotten to know and care about here will simply disappear from the site....vaporize...without giving me the opportunity to send thoughts, have a somber but smiling glass of prosseco in their honor, and send love and good thoughts to their loved ones.

My thoughts are with Beth and her loved ones, and I will toast to them all this evening.

[kduck in reply to Hidden]

Thank you

[Merma]

It's funny, even though I never watched the show and didn't know who she was until she got cancer, I followed her journey. I guess we can relate to her because we really understand and can empathesize. I find myself rooting for cancer patients I don't even know or barely know. That must be a good thing.

I don't think it's wrong to bring up someone who has passed away due to cancer. This is a place to help us process it. And that too must be a good thing.