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Have any of you experienced this device? Does it exacerbate RLS symptoms? Fisher Wallace Stimulator uses a mild electric current--not magnetic energy to trigger the production of serotonin and generate renewed activity in the area of your brain that regulate mood. such as reliving anxiety, insomnia and depression. I purchased it mainly to relieve my anxiety and insomnia. I'd appreciate for our members to offer your opinion as how safe this device is concerning RLS symptoms. Thanks.

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Not used Fisher Wallace but my Therapulse sounds similar...another group member recommended it. It is really working for my RLS. It's an electric pulse on my calf...

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DicCarlson

This is a brain stimulation device - cleared by the FDA, but not approved. Read the reviews on Amazon...

amazon.com/Circadia-Stress-...

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BocaMom

I’ve had one for a long time - didn’t notice any effect on RLS. It’s one of the gadgets, for me, that I wonder if it’s doing anything at all. Yet when my first one broke I bought another. So that makes me wonder if there is some positive impact. That being said I go through spells of use and inactivity with it.

I used one in the past and didn't notice any effect on RLS, but I think i t did help the depression.

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Catslover-1

Hi there, I have bought a therapulse device , sounds very similar to what you describe , I think it’s helping , also a weighted blanket is very good , helps me sleep .

The device I’m using was made by doctors and surgeons and is safe , I haven’t heard of the one you mention , check the reviews , hope you can find something to help .

Pam

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halperinchen in reply to Catslover-1

Hi, everyone, I do appreciate to all of you who reply in a such a prompt manner. I am using the Fisher Wallace to relieve my anxiety and insomnia, and so far I haven't found it effective in any way. The weighted blanket helps me with sleep somewhat. I am also undergoing acupuncture treatment three times a week paid by my insurance for my insomnia and anxiety. Hopefully, the acupuncture will help, this is the first time I have tried accupunture to see what happens. I am just too desperate with my ongoing insomnia and anxiety to try anything possible. It has been so much suffering with RLS in this life, it is always a struggle everynight before my med takes effect. I wish I will come back with healthy legs next life.

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halperinchen in reply to Catslover-1

Hi, Catslover, I'd like to know how severe your RLS is so that you find therapulse device helpful. I am afraid that my RLS is too severe to use it. Let me know, Thanks for your reply.

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Catslover-1

Hi there , I’m glad your weighted blanket helps you , it helps me too!

Good luck with the acupuncture, hope you get some relief from it , you can let us know :)

Wee shame , you sound so sad , hope you can find a solution to feel better , hugs xx

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SueJohnson

Ambien and Ativan are good for insomnia. Safe OTC options for insomnia include: valerian, chamomile, hops, L-tryptophan, 5-HTP, glycine, and GABA. Buspar (Buspirone) is good for anxiety and may actually help with RLS. Some OTC supplements that help anxiety are Ashwagandha, L-theanine and Honokiol. And trazodone can help both anxiety and insomnia,

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halperinchen in reply to SueJohnson

Hi, Sue, you are so compassionate and knowledgeable, reading a lot of your reply to our members with so much knowledge and compassion. I do appreciate all of your concern and help. Actually I have tried a lot of supplements in vein. Only once a week of pregabalin 300 mg will replenish my deprived sleep, I can't take it more often for fear of body tolerance and become ineffective for my insomnia. Yes, I do find life very difficult to deal with because of my daily painful symptoms of RLS. Sorry, I feel so sad recently. But on the other hand, I do find comfort and gain a lot of valuable information from our members, thanks to all with my heart.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

Hi and so sorry. We have probably discussed this before, but did you try the 50 mg per piece Delta 8 gummies that you can get at vape shops very easily? I feel like I have tried everything for sleep, too, but when I tried these-they actually work. You could take some mid evening to calm things down and then you should actually fall asleep about 2 hours later. I do think it helps me to sleep through some of the rls.

Kratom didn't make you tired, right? It does make me tired, also, and of course it zaps my rls. 1/2 of a 10 mg ambien caplet works well, too, if you can get it from your doctor. I'm sure you've tried that already.

I wouldn't worry too much about getting hooked on anything. Sleep is more important than anything else!

I, too, would like to try the therapulse and wonder if it works for severe rls.

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

Hi, Teddi, thanks for your info, I have a shop near by where I used to get the indica gummies but later I developed palpitation after taking it every night for a while. I may try Delta gummies to see what happens. How are. you? I just wondering about how you are doing with kratom? Do you get relief all night from it? Does it help with sleep? I admire you for your decision to stick with Kratom instead of any opioid. Take care.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

Hi and sorry-I just saw your post. The Delta 8 gummies are even easier to get, which is a plus. You could walk to any smoke or vape shop right now and pick it up. I would get the ones that say 50 mg per piece, as I mentioned. Start with 1/2. I use 3/4 of one gummy. I encourage you to try them because they do seem different to me-and I have done nearly all of the thc gummies, etc.

The kratom, and also hirsuta, work well for me. They do help with sleep, too. You can also order kratom capsules, which are great to throw in your pocket, just in case.

I do not get relief all night though, so I have to keep the powder next to my bed for instant relief when I awaken with rls. I probably wake up every 2-5 hours, depending on the night. That is just from using 1 teaspoon in water. I am unclear if I really upped the dosage if I could then sleep longer.

Thank you for the encouragement-you are the first person to say that. I have no idea if I am doing the right thing or not. But, I am still hoping things can settle down in my brain and I can find the right help with the least amount of side effects and stress.

Did you see Shumbah's post about how BUP helps with anxiety/depression? I didn't know that and it could be something for you to consider, since you have had such struggles in that department.

You take care, too, and do let me know if you try the 50 mg Delta 8's!

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

Thank you, Teddi, I am glad your RLS symptoms are pretty controlled by kratom and hirsuta. I'd like to know how soon the kratom effects kick in to relieve your RLS symptoms. The reason I am asking is that I am taking 7.5 mg of oxycodone at 9 pm, then I have to be waken up at 12 am to take 2.5 mg of oxycodone to last for another 3 hours, but the problems is if I don't take 2.5 mg of oxycodone sooner then I have to wait for 11/2 hour for it to take effect, then the symptoms of RLS would keep me awake and I just become hyperaroused to go back to sleep. Therefore I just have to increase dosage to 15 mg extend-release which I really don't like to for fear the increased dosage will make my rls worse. If the kratom effect will kick in sooner, I would like to consider switching to kratom instead. Thanks for your reply and take care.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

I hear you-Dr. B took me off oxycodone because it just doesn't last long enough and certainly does not get one through the night. I had to take too many of them to sleep a full night.

Methadone lasts all night, if you take enough. The Suboxone also lasts for a good amount of time and because it is sublingual, it works very quickly. It gives me weirdly intense stomach contractions. Shumba says we shouldn't take the Suboxone and to get Subutex or straight BUP instead. Suboxone does not make me nauseous but BUP made me vomit (I probably took too much). I think you have tried them all, but just in case-the above is my experience.

The amazing thing about kratom powder is how quickly it works, as it goes right into your system. My rls, or even any withdrawal symptoms, are gone within minutes. 10-15 max. Let me know if you want more info and best of luck!

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

Teddi, thanks. It sounds that Kratom is stronger than oxycodone because it could last you for whole night but oxycodone couldn't. Have you done more investigation that does it give any side effects when taken long term? Certainly, I will do more research on Kratom. Also does kratom acts like opioid? Does it affect sleep? Taking oxycodone for long time like me affects my sleep therefore, I suffer from insomnia. Unfortunately, I just couldn't find any replacement other than opioid to relieve my symptoms. Anyway, thanks a lot for your reply.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

Yes, kratom is opioid-like, but the side effects are much milder. It does not last through the night for me, although perhaps it would if I took more than one teaspoon at a time. That is the worst part-having to awaken to take more.

You know-I have not done that research because right now it is what I am taking and I guess I don't yet want to know. Although I do worry about that and you can tell me what you find out. I do know that people say they have taken it for years and seem fine. But I think there are also horror stories. To me, it seems far easier to manage than an opioid. There is a withdrawal when stopping it although if you have another opioid to switch to, that is a moot point.

I am not sure on the sleep but I do take those Delta 8 gummies with it and right now it is a "good" combo. Keep me posted!

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

Hi, Teddi, would you please give me the website or phone number for kratom so that I could purchase some for myself. Thanks.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

You are in the US, right? mitragaia.com

dodahman gave me that tip early this year and they seem like a great company.

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

Yes, I am in the US, thanks greatly for the website, I will go try small samples first.

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halperinchen in reply to TeddiJ

hi, Teddi, Do you think that red vein kratom is inductive to sleep. I do want to make sure to get one which is not stimulating or on edge, since you already have some experiences with it, I do appreciate for your reply. Thanks.

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TeddiJ in reply to halperinchen

Yes, they help with sleep. I have never felt edgy on the reds at all. Also-you can just try small samples with this company-be sure to click around and ck the options for sampling. Let me know!

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SueJohnson in reply to halperinchen

There is no reason you can't take the pregabalin every night. It shouldn't become ineffective for your insomnia and I also wouldn't worry about developing tolerance. I take gabapentin which is basically the same as pregabalin and after having to increase it during the 1st year, I no longer have to. Yes I will eventually develop tolerance but it will take many years and then increasing it by 100 mg (25 mg of pregabalin) it will work again for many years. 600 mg is the maximum of pregabalin so I wouldn't worry about it. Why suffer during the other 6 days.

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TeddiJ in reply to SueJohnson

Hi, Sue! I don't know what pregabalin actually is as it was never offered to me. You may or may not remember that I didn't do well on gabapentin. Horizant just didn't do anything at all. Should I try pregabalin or do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks!

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SueJohnson in reply to TeddiJ

Pregabalin is basically the same drug as gabapentin except you don't need to divide the doses, and the side effects are basically the same. But some people find that the side effects that bother them on one don't bother them on the other. You could try it and see if you get the same side effects and if so, then stop it. Beginning dose is 75 mg and it takes 3 weeks to be fully effective. After that you would increase it every couple of days by 25 mg. Effective dose is usually 200 to 300 mg.

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TeddiJ in reply to SueJohnson

Thanks very much!

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SueJohnson in reply to TeddiJ

If you don't get the side effect right away and increase the pregabalin you would need to come off it very slowly to prevent withdrawal effects. If you do so, you won't have any.

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TeddiJ in reply to SueJohnson

Oh-great to know-thanks!

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Wollyhat123

I find Melatonin 3mg nightly seriously helps my insomnia. Took a couple of weeks before it kicked in. Doesn’t help with my RLS but I do take medication for RLS which does help. 100 mg Gabapentin. Still get RLS breakthrough sometimes though.

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TeddiJ in reply to Wollyhat123

Some people say melatonin makes their rls far worse. You might want to ck and see what happens if you don't take it!

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SueJohnson in reply to Wollyhat123

I'm amazed 100 mg of gabapentin helps at all. That is below the usual starting dose of 300 mg and most patients require 1200 to 1800 mg. You can certainly increase it to stop having even breakthrough RLS. And yes melatonin makes RLS worse for most, but we are all different.

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halperinchen in reply to SueJohnson

Hi Sue, may I ask you if 5HTP is friendly to RLS? Thanks

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yes

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halperinchen in reply to SueJohnson

Thanks, Sue.

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