It’s in that convergence of spiritual people becoming active and active people becoming spiritual that the hope of humanity now rests.
Van Jones
It’s in that convergence of spiritual people becoming active and active people becoming spiritual that the hope of humanity now rests.
Van Jones
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I can't really believe that's necessarily true 4woody. The active but unspiritual can achieve much without being the slightest bit spiritual. There may be some merit in believing that if spiritual people who aren't already, become active it brings a new aspect to action. What do you think?
My hackles rise when I hear somebody say "We must pray for the people of XXXXX in their time of trouble." Prayers never seem to produce anything tangible. Action produces results (Newton's first law).
I'm in the middle with this Brent_Wilson. I do believe in the collective power of positivity, but I don't pray myself as a practitioner of Buddhism. (It is very much founded in Newton's first law, long before Newton first defined it). I think that if there's a fire, the best action is to find a bucket, some water and go to put it out. And I don't believe that it has to be a spiritual person who is your best help. A practical person is, surely? As you say, prayer in that circumstance would do nothing practical to help. But if, after that fire, a victim of it is suffering, the collective good wishes, (or prayers) of a group of empathetic people, may be of some help.
Brent, I too have hackles that rise when what is suggested is prayer. I myself do not conflate prayer and spirituality. Would it be true to say that hope of humanity rests in its ability to love without prejudice?
I think accomplishments and hope are not the same thing. Where does hope rest? Likely in more than one place....
Absolutely, Woody, in my view -- assuming I understand you correctly. Mind you, I was a for seven years a teacher on a tiny Caribbean island (Nevis) in the early nineties, when it was still an impoverished place. Later I was lecturer at the University of the West Indies, Trinidad and Tobago, where I lectured to both Afro-Caribbean and Indo-Caribbean students. Many were intellectually way, way, way above my league, making it a very humbling experience -- all the more so because many came from financially challenged households. I would recommend that everybody who is able undertake comparable action.
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