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The Truth about Inflammation!

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Article from the Guardian with contributors like Prof Spector. ( Still working on the cures !!)

theguardian.com/lifeandstyl...

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Yes, saw that, meant to post it!

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Rachmaninov2

Thanks for posting the link Seekingasolution, very interesting article.

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SheffieldJane

A very interesting article, thanks for sharing. I missed it in my newsfeed.

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Koalajane

right time for a walk!

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dancersize2 in reply to Koalajane

I'll go dancing for a couple of hours insead.

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Sandradsn

Thank you for sharing,it's very interesting!

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Songbird6

Thank you for sharing, I found it very interesting and makes a lot of sense! 😊

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Lochy

Enjoyed reading that, some really interesting stuff. A lot of us here are familiar with it and I keep trying to follow the theories so fingers crossed. Thanks

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Seekingasolution in reply to Lochy

There was a second article alongside it about a journalist of Italian descent who tried the Zoe app. What I thought was interesting is that she appeared to be able to polish off 2 portions of pasta without a huge spike in her blood sugar. Carbohydrate usually can but seems that genes may well play a part. A plate of pasta leaves me feeling very heavy. However other things that you might think would be ok eg a fresh fruit smoothie gave her quite a spike. Suggestion was for more greenery in her smoothie and more bitter vegetables like Brussels sprouts (in July ?) I may have wandered off onto another article on ultra processed food but Prof Spector noted that in his case oat milk ( which is a UPF) gave him a huge spike in his blood sugar. Cow's milk of course is not a UPF !

Im almost tempted to sign up to Zoe and get specific results to see if I can optimise my health although the food monitoring may be a bit dreary especially if you have to cough up to how many glasses of Prosecco one might consume at, say, a summer wedding...

Interested to know if anyone else is trying it? may need a new thread...

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Seekingasolution

Depends how she cooks it too - in restaurants there is a bulk cook and then they reheat portions as required - and THAT changes the carb in the pasta.

A fresh fruit smoothie leaves the sugar freely available - no cell membrane to slow it down. A solid pice of fruit doesn't have the same effect.

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Oh-my

Heard on the news there has been a recent large increase in diabetes 1 in children. They think it may be a result of less interactions during lockdown. I'm curious to know if PMR has had a similar increase in numbers as a result of lockdown and less mixing.

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Seekingasolution in reply to Oh-my

I don't understand the connection here between less interactions... unless it's related to stress or depression perhaps? what was your understanding?

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Oh-my in reply to Seekingasolution

I believe the thinking is that the more everyday germs we meet from pets, people, food, soil etc, the better it is for our immune system and the less likely it is to turn on itself with an autoimmune disease. Children of the nineties research found that if the cohort child had older brothers and/or pets they were less likely to develop asthma. So more interactions is good - and during Covid lockdown we had markedly less.

Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease characterized by the chronic inflammation of the pancreatic islets of Langerhans. PMR is also an autoimmune disease with chronic inflammation....

So in my random way I was musing that if the thinking is that the recent marked increase inType 1 diabetes in children is caused by the less frequent interactions between people during lockdown (therefore giving the immune system less to do) maybe the same might have happened to me (and others) with PMR . And maybe all that extra handwashing didn't do me much good too!

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Mayadill in reply to Oh-my

"I believe the thinking is that the more everyday germs we meet from pets, people, food, soil etc, the better it is for our immune system and the less likely it is to turn on itself with an autoimmune disease."

Uh....I commuted on London Transport for 30 years to work in major teaching hospitals, retired, and came down with PMR.

My own reading of the children was a bit unkinder. They were sitting inside eating or drinking sugar!

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Oh-my in reply to Mayadill

" They were sitting inside eating or drinking sugar! " - might that not apply more to type 2 diabetes.

I used to teach in secondary schools. I reckon in my first year of teaching I had a permanent cold until I got used to it. Lockdown was weird. The complete opposite.

Guess I'm hoping my PMR is a once off now we are all back and mixing again. Can only hope.

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Mayadill in reply to Oh-my

That is true and I read specifically type I is not associated with age or overweight. but it's still a disease of sugar control and that doesn't exclude over-consumption of the white stuff. at rather excessive levels. A 4-pack of Monster energy drink will gift you 220 g sugar.

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herdysheep

Thanks for posting this - interesting

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