Bone Health and Osteoporosis - published info

[Alchemy8]

I came across this article which has collated a considerable number of published US findings on the subject of bone health and the work of supplements in general in the body . PMRPro might like to take a look as she is an expert understanding the chemistry. Clearly scientific medical advice has moved on from doctors' prescriptions:

greenmedinfo.com/blog/bone-...

[Temoral]

C,D,E,K2 and magnesium all good for osteo health, but not necessarily calcium it would appear from these studies. This has been suggested before...see the Save Our Bones website. All worth considering ..what does anyone think?

[Bridge31 in reply to Temoral]

I shall be interested to hear what PMRpro thinks. Most of us have been taking calcium supplements from the start. Automatically prescribed .

[Alchemy8 in reply to Bridge31]

Yes but as we all know the GP is the last to pick up on new findings - they are so busy! Science is not static. particularly now as we are only justy now beginning to look at the body as whole functioning organism rather than this bit or that bit that needs dealing with.

[whitefishbay]

I would be interested to hear what PMR Pro thinks too.

[OldPenny]

Interesting, but how do you sort the wheat from the chaff?

For example, the main proponent of Vit. C supplements is also so anti-calcium supplements that he calls them dangerous. MedFox? Maybe a giveaway?

Certainly not to be trusted in my opinion. See this:

cbsnews.com/colorado/news/d...

Ho-hum....

[Alchemy8 in reply to OldPenny]

Am only going on the fact that most of the articles are on published through the the US Government so you would think they had been peer reviewed.

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Alchemy8]

Doesn't stop them being controversial!!!

Sorry - still trying to find time to digest it all ...

[Alchemy8 in reply to PMRpro]

So sorry to burden you. if it is an official publication and still not trustworthy then who can we trust?!

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Alchemy8]

That isn't what I said - publications are there to present various sides of an argument and for others to come back to confirm or dispute findings. You don't know if it is trustworthy without a much closer and informed read.

[Alchemy8 in reply to PMRpro]

I always thought that empirical evidence was provided through double blind studies et al. And if published by a reputable source it would have been peer reviewed, All very complicated!

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to Alchemy8]

Ah yes - but the authors can be quite selective about which results they choose to analyse. The most important member of a research team is often the statistics guru. You can always get the answer you'd like by judicious choice of the questions you ask. I don't think there is any coincidence about the fact that predominantly positive results for a drug are from studies funded by the pharmaceutical company.

[Alchemy8 in reply to PMRpro]

I would totally agree with the latter comment - and the co-opting of members of the medical profession with perks! Oh dear! Well thank you for taking a look with a gimlet eye!

[Temoral]

Coincidentally, my rheumy today said that I have enough calcium in my diet , so that the adcal are no longer necessary, but I should continue with Vit D...and also that AA is not really required. He did a risk calculation for fractures and it was between 15 and 3.5 per cent over the next 10 years, but he will recalculate at next appt in May. Progress...?

[suenewberry]

Thank you for highlighting this. I read a book called your bones on which she recommended these supplements. I followed her regime for a year and the last Dexa scan revealed that I no longer needed bisophate injections as my bone health had considerably improved. However they did report not overdo the supplements as the bones could break like glass. Its a fine balance. A lot of the calcium just flushes through the system unless supported by other supplements. The scan was also taken on my wrist as OA can give falst readings to the spine

[Alchemy8 in reply to suenewberry]

Are you talking about Lara Pizzorno's book? I have been following her recommendation on Strontium for the bones (not Ranelate as I recall) so would be interested to see how my Dexa scan would go. She is also very much against AA and cites a number of published works on the subect.

[suenewberry in reply to Alchemy8]

Yes it is the same book. However I also discovered that she has her own company that promotes supplements. I took what I wanted and shed the rest. Strontium, Vit D 4000IEU, K2, Magnesium, Vit E and Vit C