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I’ve just realised that it’s two years to the date today that I was diagnosed with PMR. Just had a little cry by myself😢. I don’t normally wallow in self pity but sometimes it helps to let it all out. Currently going through a flare and have shoulder surgery in three weeks time.

Thanks to everyone on the forum for your invaluable advice and support. I couldn’t do this without you all. Onwards and upwards🧗‍♀️

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No, no - you've got it wrong: Onwards and DOWNwards ... Or so we hope :)

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Tiggy70 in reply to PMRpro

🤣🤣 yes, you’re right.

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Kiwisufferer2019 in reply to PMRpro

I'll second that!☺

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Dartmoor4

I don’t blame you having a little cry. You have had 2 years of it. I have had a little cry and haven’t had PMR a year yet. It’s the fact it seems to go on and on. It sometimes feels too much when other health issues pop up too! As you say, this forum is invaluable and has helped me tremendously too so much so that I have become a PMR member! Every good wish for your surgery will be thinking of you sending you lots of good vibes. 🌸🌼🌺

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Tiggy70 in reply to Dartmoor4

Thank you. I wish you well too.🌸🌺

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autumnlass in reply to Dartmoor4

Don’t know what we’d do without PMRGCAUK forum. ❤️

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SheffieldJane

That’s not self pity it’s self care. It’s a rotten, continually, challenging disease and a cry does you good. You’ll get there. X

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Tiggy70 in reply to SheffieldJane

Thank you Jane. I was doing ok until I realised it was the two year anniversary today. I suppose for some strange reason these days are more significant. Also no distractions for me today as OH at a football match and the grandchildren left earlier after spending 5 days with us. I’ll be fine tomorrow x Off to get a Magnum out of the freezer 😊

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SheffieldJane in reply to Tiggy70

Find a soppy film on Netflix and have a proper howl. I watched the old film “Gaslight”from BBC I Player the other day and ended up feeling furious at everyone in it, it’s funny how we change.

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Tiggy70 in reply to SheffieldJane

Yes, I was only thinking the other day that there are dvd’s still in their cellophane that we haven’t been watched. I was saving them for after my surgery when I’m incapacitated but I may start sooner x

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SheffieldJane in reply to Tiggy70

You need to be distracted with a girl’s film. No car chases or violence. Tissues at the ready.

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Tiggy70 in reply to SheffieldJane

I can see I’ve got Bridesmaids and Brokeback mountain. Not sure about them? We do have Netflix so I’ll interrogate that. I love sport so mostly I’ve been watching the athletics and I like the 100 cricket.

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autumnlass in reply to Tiggy70

My 2 year anniversary on July 5 2020. Remember sitting at kitchen table looking at 3 x 5 mgm Prednisone, Hurting so much … 😳

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SheffieldJane in reply to Tiggy70

Bridesmaids is very funny and warm.

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sewinggranny in reply to Tiggy70

The Wedding Date is one of my favourite girlie films, although it's american, it's set in England, British actors, Sarah Parish, Jack Davenport and Peter Egan are in the cast. I've got the new Downton Abbey film to watch when the European Games finishes, husband is an athletics fan, so we've watched the World championships from Eugene, then the Commonwealth. Hope you feel better soon. I've had a "weepy" week and it's only 3 months for me so daughter took me out for coffee and cake yesterday, probably not ideal for the developing moon face, but as my great granny used to say "A little of what you fancy does you good!"

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Tiggy70 in reply to sewinggranny

Thankyou for the film suggestion. I too have been watching a lot of sport lately. My husband is taking me out for lunch today so that will be nice. Don’t worry too much about the moon face. Mine is much better now I’m on a lower dose of Pred. 🌺

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Bridge31 in reply to Tiggy70

If you enjoy sport then the one about The Williams sisters is good to watch.

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autumnlass in reply to Bridge31

I do like tennis & I like the Williams … I’ll give it a go thank you. August TV is a bit dreary always I find - hence Netflix!

Looking forward to Bake Off starting! Those poor contestants in this heat in the tent!

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MiloCollie in reply to Tiggy70

Bridesmaids is hilarious. Especially where they’re trying dresses on at the bridal gown shop ❤️❤️😂😂

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autumnlass in reply to SheffieldJane

Have you seen ‘Love Sarah’. on Netflix? Lovely British film with Celia Imrie… uplifting, and a bit weepy!

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Tiggy70 in reply to autumnlass

Thankyou. No I haven’t seen it. I’ll see if I can find it. I’ll have to send my OH upstairs to watch our other tv. We don’t have the same taste in films!

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autumnlass in reply to Tiggy70

🤣🤣 - … it’s sweet & definitely a ‘girlie film!!

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Tiggy70 in reply to autumnlass

Definitely not one for him then 🤣

autumnlass profile image
autumnlass in reply to Tiggy70

Er…. no!

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Kiwisufferer2019 in reply to SheffieldJane

Or a good comedy, nothing like a laugh!

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Tiggy70 in reply to Kiwisufferer2019

👍🤣

SheffieldJane profile image
SheffieldJane in reply to Kiwisufferer2019

True! Especially a NZ comedy. So funny!

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autumnlass in reply to SheffieldJane

Maybe it’s the Pred that makes you furious! It’s made me very irritable today and cross and stuff myself with carbs! It must be the 1 mgm Pred up ⬆️ today. Down tomorrow for whole week🙏…. You’re getting really organised! Well Done. xx

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Tiggy70 in reply to autumnlass

It could be the Pred. I get very emotional and irrational at times. I feel so sorry for my OH. On the higher doses my personality definitely changes. Other people don’t really notice that much but those who have to live with us suffer the most. Good luck with the taper x

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SheffieldJane in reply to autumnlass

No I think it was the harrowing portrayal of coercive control. We understand it now. I used to work with the victims of domestic violence.

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Poshdog in reply to Tiggy70

Oh Tiggy, I feel for you. Magnums have been my solace too! To hell with the waistline when it all gets too much. You'll soon be over this blip - keep the freezer full! xx

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Tiggy70 in reply to Poshdog

Hi Poshdog (love your name). If I succumb it’s normally only a mini magnum but yesterday was a full size one😊. I’m feeling a bit better today thankyou.

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Poshdog in reply to Tiggy70

So glad you feeling a bit better. It will be 6 years for me in May - hate to think how many Magnums I will have consumed by then! Poshdog was the name of my feisty terrier in the pic - sets me a good example!! xx

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Tiggy70 in reply to Poshdog

I think a lot of use our pet names. Mine is after my much loved, now departed tabby cat called Tiggy and my age when diagnosed with PMR.

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Poshdog in reply to Tiggy70

Think they are all there in spirit when we need them. xx

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Bridge31 in reply to Tiggy70

Magnum of Prosecco ? ☺️

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Tiggy70 in reply to Bridge31

🤣🤣now that’s a better idea

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Bcol

Hi Tiggy, had my two year anniversary in June and as Pro has reminded us "onwards and downwards", as we know though that doesn't always happen. Had a busy couple of days but if no dire reaction tonight start 4.5mg to 4.0mg tomorrow. No guarantees and if it doesn't happen tomorrow then it will at sometime later. As you said this forum is brilliant with our three superstars just amazing, but the contributions from all the members help us to realise we are not alone, someone somewhere generally/always has an answer to the strangest/most difficult/technical questions and worries. And ( shouldn't start a sentence with And but hey ho,) we are only two years in and doing OK, many here are getting closer to five/ten years plus. It's what it is and no point fighting/worrying about it.

Hope all goes well with the shoulder surgery and hugs and best wishes.

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Tiggy70 in reply to Bcol

Thank you, you’re right. I keep telling myself “it is what it is”. My husband who is very supportive keeps telling me there’s no point in looking back as you can’t change what’s happened but it’s hard not to do that. A year ago I know I was feeling better than I am now. I feel I could cope better with PMR if the progress was linear. It’s the ups and downs that get me.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Tiggy70

Unfortunately the ups and downs are all part of life, with or without PMR….

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Bcol in reply to DorsetLady

So true!! And from what I read here, for those with PMR, a lot of those ups and downs come from Rhuemies!! Probably unfair as I'm sure there are many who do a fab job so we never hear about them.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Bcol

Yep -correct on both counts….😉

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autumnlass in reply to Tiggy70

I can do relate to how you feel. June 2021 I was feeling quite upbeat in a way… then kidney stones - and now just been diagnosed with Pseudoexfoliation glaucoma … it’s all the ups and downs and the frustrating unpredictability of it sll! Dorset Lady is so right though

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Tiggy70 in reply to autumnlass

So sorry to hear that. Just when we think we are getting somewhere something else comes along to kick us in the butt! Dorset lady is right, life is full of ups and downs and generally speaking I’m ok at dealing with the downs. Of course some of my problems are down to advancing age.

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autumnlass in reply to Tiggy70

I wish you well very Tiggy 70 with the shoulder op. You’ll have loadsa love and support from your PMR family. ❤️ Take good care and get loadsa rest. xx

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Tiggy70 in reply to autumnlass

Thanks. Just having a bad day today 😘

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Tiggy70 in reply to Bcol

Thank you. I just want to get it over and done with. 😊

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Bcol in reply to Tiggy70

Yey, can understand that, so hugs and best wishes. Please keep us in touch. ☺️

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Kendrew

Hi Tiggy70,

You're never completely by yourself whilst you're here on the forum... and you've done exactly the right thing by sharing how you're feeling.

There probably isn't one of us on here who won't have felt exactly how you're feeling at some point during their own PMR 'journey' and you can rest assured that we'll all be able to empathise with you on some level.

I've had PMR for 3½yrs now and it's definitely changed my life and the way I live it. ( See my bio) Some of those changes have led me to making decisions I'd never have previously chosen to make, and yet what I'm discovering, is that most of those changes have led to outcomes that have ultimately benefited me in one way or another, be it my physical well-being, my mental well-being or my stress and anxiety levels.

The best thing I did was accept that for now I was unwell.....and silly as it seems.....embrace that knowledge and focus on everything I could still do whilst not getting upset about the things I couldn't do.

For most of us, PMR will not be a permanent factor in our lives, but it will probably take several years before we start to see improvements.

There's much we can do to to help ourselves but it does mean a certain amount of hard work:-

- research your condition

- learn as much as you can about it

- learn about your medications

- eat appropriately (low carb)

- exercise but within your capability

- accept your new limitations

- have realistic expectations

- embrace the positives

- find joy in the little things

It's ok to have a 'down' day. In fact you need them in order to fully appreciate all the other better days.... and there will still be many better days.

A flare is frustrating but it will pass, and when your shoulder surgery is over you can look forward to more ease and comfort.

Tomorrow is a new day and will probably be a better day.

This awful condition can get us down at times but things do get better and they will for you too.

Sending you good wishes for a speedy recovery from your surgery. Let us know how you get on?

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Kendrew

Another cracking post from you!!!!!

DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

A good cry is a must sometimes…hope you get the flare under control asap,and good luck with the surgery 🌸

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Tiggy70 in reply to DorsetLady

Thank you. I just want to get it over with🌺

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Koalajane

Hi and please don’t worry about having a little cry, it is so good for you at times, I worry because I don’t cry about having PMR for over 5 years!I look back and although I sometimes hurt I realise that for me it was a wake up call. I had gone for about 30 years without visiting a doctor and was plodding along and putting on weight when suddenly bang! I couldn’t walk far at all or turn over in bed or climb the stairs.

On diagnosis I read about PMR on this fantastic site and decided I was going to lose weight as I didn’t want an even fatter face. A few months after I was diagnosed type 2 diabetic!

I am now over 3 stone lighter, eat healthier and walk so much more. I love my walks where I am able to have my best thoughts. I dream about waking up one morning without PMR, it will happen one day, in some ways PMR has helped me.

Sorry for babbling on but I just wanted to say that it is not a bad thing to let your emotions out. Things will and do improve.

Best wishes to you and keep us informed as to how you are

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Kendrew in reply to Koalajane

That's an amazing weight loss that you've achieved. Well done.....and I agree completely about the walking.One of my happy places too!

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Koalajane in reply to Kendrew

I love the walking and am amazed at how it brings my blood sugars down.Trouble is I find myself talking to myself a lot!

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Kendrew in reply to Koalajane

Hahaha! Well at least there's no one to contradict you or disagree with you......and you can always be right!😀

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Whippetygirl in reply to Koalajane

I too love walking, I take my little whippet out twice a day and talk to her as if she was another person at my side. We discuss our plans for the day and what we are going to have for tea, and I don’t care if anyone hears us.

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SheffieldJane in reply to Koalajane

Everybody does it now. Just put an earpiece in and you’ll blend in. 😃

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Tiggy70 in reply to Koalajane

Thankyou. I know I need to be more positive and I will - just not today☹️

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Koalajane in reply to Tiggy70

I expect it is being on your own after having the youngsters there too, but there is nothing wrong with an off day now and again. Also I am sure you must have some worries about your upcoming surgery so all perfectly normal. Please keep us informed as to how things go

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Tiggy70 in reply to Koalajane

Will do, thanks 💐

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Tiggy70

Hi Kendrew, Thanks, as always you have the right words to make us feel better. I have done quite a few of your suggestions. I think I’m now well clued up on PMR, the drugs and the tapering. I’ve been following a low carb diet since last Christmas and have lost 8lbs of the Pred. weight gain as a result. Exercise is a difficult one. I overdid my walking a couple of weeks ago on a short break and think I now have bursitis in both hips. I felt ok when I was doing it. I got Covid on 30 June exactly a week before my scheduled shoulder surgery. The surgeon won’t touch me for 8 weeks post Covid. I’m in a lot of pain at night with my shoulder and can only take paracetamol. I know I will be in even more pain after the surgery. I’m going to be in a sling for a month and told I have at least a 6 month recovery. Hard though that prospect is I just want to move forward. x

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Kendrew in reply to Tiggy70

Absolutely. You've definitely some challenges ahead of you and PMR in the mix doesn't help, but you're clearly doing a lot to optimise your health and well done for that. Just try and stay positive and optimistic....there's frequently no gain without pain unfortunately, but I know you'll get through this because you really are doing well and better than you probably feel you are. A bit of a long road ahead for you but just deal with one day at a time. ❤️

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Tiggy70 in reply to Kendrew

Thankyou 💐🌸

Bcol profile image
Bcol in reply to Tiggy70

Hi Tiggy are you not able to take Co -Codamol for the pain it can be far more effective than Paracetamol?

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Tiggy70 in reply to Bcol

Unfortunately I can’t take anything containing opioids. They put my BP into my boots. I’ve been rubbing in ibuprofen gel but it’s really not touching the pain.

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Bcol in reply to Tiggy70

Okay, that does take out a number of options. I never found the gels did anything for my OA pains.

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Tiggy70 in reply to Bcol

I have OA too in my hips, lower spine, elbows and shoulders. Not much fun is it. The consultant did tell me what painkiller he wants me to take after my surgery but I’ve forgotten the name of it. I have my pre op. next Tuesday so I’ll ask again.

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Abykarma in reply to Tiggy70

Hi Tiggy. Just to offer support for your upcoming shoulder surgery. In January I also had shoulder surgery due to severe pain. The surgeon decalcified my rotator cuff, shaved away some of the acromium to relieve pressure, excised the A/C joint and debrided another joint for OA, so it was quite extensive, yet I coped really well. I was using Synoleve painkillers (I'm in South Africa so you might not have them in UK) which are quite strong and helped. Paracetamol is also useful after the early weeks. I started shoulder exercises really early to get movement going, and was religious about doing the exs the physio gave me, even though some of them hurt. A week after the surgery I started the PMR pain in my hips and by the end of March I had pain in both shoulders and arms as well as hips. Then I got the diagnosis and started pred. So the PMR complicated my shoulder healing. I was also told 6 months for full healing. Now at 7 months I've got good arm and shoulder movement back although when I do yoga, I do not raise my arms above my head, to avoid further injury. I'm still a little achy in the shoulder but the surgeon says that is the result of PMR not the surgery. I'm still on 15mg pred but going to taper to 12.5mg this week. In SA we do not get 1mg tablets which is a real drawback to slow tapering but I'll somehow make do with cutting up the 5mg pills.Good luck with the surgery!

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Abykarma

Synaleve is basically co-codamol plus an anxiolytic. It is available as Syndol in the UK.

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Tiggy70 in reply to Abykarma

Many thanks for your post. My upcoming surgery does sound very much like yours. You seem to have made a good recovery but you could certainly have done without the PMR diagnosis. I don’t think I will be prescribed the pain relief you mention as I am allergic to opioids. It’s just over two weeks to my op. now. I’m in a lot of pain at night so just want to get it over and done with. I hope your steroid reduction goes well. I struggled a bit with the 15mg to 12.5mg. Good luck 🌺🌺

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Tiggy70

Hi Dad2Cue, according to my consultant’s letter I’m having a right shoulder arthroscopy cuff repair and a/c joint excision. I’ve been told that the shoulder will never heal by itself as the supraspinatus tendon has a full thickness tear. I injured it in November 2021 and in March of this year an over zealous masseuse made it much worse. I know what you mean about finding your waist 🤣. I wish you well with your surgery .

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Posey1

A little cry sometimes puts things in perspective I find. Very best wishes for your surgery and recovery.

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Tiggy70 in reply to Posey1

Thanks for your good wishes 🌸

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Abcd123455

Hi, great support from everyone and thank goodness for this site!Wish you all the best for your surgery. Have a good cry whenever you feel you need to, it’s good to let the stress/upset out 🌼

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Tiggy70 in reply to Abcd123455

Thank you. I’m feeling a bit better today 🌺

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Daffodilia

Yes it’s sad but hope pred is helping - good luck with shoulder #4yearsandcounting

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Tiggy70 in reply to Daffodilia

Thank you so much. The support and comments from everyone have raised my spirits.🌺

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Doraflora

It’s certainly a life-changer this PMR malarkey, Tiggy70. Don’t feel bad about having a cry!

We’re all different people and it’s good to release our feelings.

Good luck with your surgery!

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Tiggy70 in reply to Doraflora

Thankyou Doraflora 🌸🌺💐

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lewislabrador

Chin up girl....we all know how you're feeling x

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Tiggy70 in reply to lewislabrador

Thanks x

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Amkoffee

Good luck on your surgery. I hope it helps.

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Tiggy70 in reply to Amkoffee

Thank you. I’m feeling a bit better today 🌸

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catdance

Wishing you a successful surgery & a speedy recovery. Also quick control of the flare especially before surgery!

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Tiggy70 in reply to catdance

Thank you, I think I’ve now got the flare under control and I’m back to where I was taking 8.5 mg Pred. I was worried that the surgeon wouldn’t go ahead with my surgery if I was on a higher dose. He is reluctant at 8.5.

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MiloCollie

Happy PMR anniversary -sorry-not funny 😜good luck with your surgery xx

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Tiggy70 in reply to MiloCollie

Thank you 🌸

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alvertta

Sending hugs from Ontario. I cried at the 2 year mark in a flare. Almost 4 years and almost done.

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Tiggy70 in reply to alvertta

Thank you. You give me hope💐

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alvertta in reply to Tiggy70

Yes.

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Iamfedup

Mines three years this week. The first two years were the worst so hopefully you will improve this coming year. I’m down to 2mg now so figure (fingers crossed) only another seven months to go!!

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Tiggy70 in reply to Iamfedup

Love your name. I could be Iamfedup2. So pleased to hear you are coming to the end of your PMR. Good luck on the final lap!🤞

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to Tiggy70

Never assume that - that last 2mg can be very hard. Sorry - but don't set yourself up for a fall.

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Tiggy70 in reply to PMRpro

Point taken! It’s so hard not to be over optimistic😵‍💫

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Iamfedup in reply to Tiggy70

Thank you Iamfedup2!All the very best to you xx

Blomps profile image
Blomps

All the best Tiggy for the surgery, hope it goes well for you. My PMR is ongoing now for over 5 years and still on 20mg prednisilone daily. See the specialist today first time since December. Hoping he has some magic available to get me off these as they mess with my diabetes. Still going though as you say o wards and upwards. Blomps

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Tiggy70 in reply to Blomps

Thanks for your good wishes Blomps. I too have diabetes and the steroids cause spikes. I hope your specialist appointment goes well today🤞

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Blomps in reply to Tiggy70

Thanks Tiggy, turns out more of the same alternating lower doses for a month then going onto the lower one the next month and so on. The consultant also thinks my bad head aches relate to old spiral surgery 40 years ago and is suggesting a little massage upon occurrence along with cocodomol.Worth a try anything to get away from the aggravated diabetic highs. Only on insulin now Hi and Nova Rapid with a little Glikazide twice daily.

Look after yourself

Blomps

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Tiggy70 in reply to Blomps

Onwards, and as PMRPro said downwards!!

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humlies

Just picked up your post; I have just passed my 2 year anniversary, if that is the right word, and I too echo all the comments about this wonderful forum. I told one of our practice nurses about it the other day, and said that I did not know what I would have done without it. I have realised that there is nothing Odd about the time I am taking to reduce the pred, and also realise I am very fortunate to be down to 2 mg when so many others have been stuck for years on a higher dose. Just celebrated my 80th birthday, which I can't quite believe!!! (We spent 10 days camping with all 11 of our family, so I can't be too bad, though am now exhausted!)

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to humlies

I would be just thinking about it.. camping and with the family 😀... time for rest & recuperation methinks..

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to DorsetLady

Camping yes (not a tent mind), all that family? Less keen ...

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humlies in reply to PMRpro

No falling out among the family for 10 days - now there is a miracle. Helped by a relentless programme of amazing visits organised by our son the tour guide ; all very interesting and great fun, but I am paying the price a bit now!!

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Tiggy70 in reply to humlies

Pleased to hear you are making good progress - long may it continue!

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