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Update about the crystal maze that is my gp practice! So tried Naproxen for a week to be a compliant patient and not surprisingly it was awful. Shoulders as bad as ever but nausea and headache to boot 🙁 So stopped them and made yet another appt with the afor mentioned Extended scope practitioner . But he left last week and it was a new one ! Telephone appt . She was bright asked all the right questions, agreed with a diagnosis of PMR . Said she would talk to the GP immediately to start on low dose steroids and ring me back . Then….. she called back very deflated ( was her first day in our practice) no clinical autonomy whatsoever with the GP . Who want to refer my case to ‘’ Advice and Guidance ‘ another NHS initiative 🤪 ( Google it for a full explanation!)

Good God when did GP s stop using their own clinical judgement ??

So several days wait for a judgment call . Back to the wine …….

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SheffieldJane profile image
SheffieldJane

What fresh h*ll is this?

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Romilly2 in reply to SheffieldJane

Part of the next 5 year plan apparently! I don’t know who supplies this service . Maybe they are training some BOTS !

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to SheffieldJane

england.nhs.uk/elective-car...

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123mossie

That’s dreadful. Naproxen isn’t to be popped like smarties either. You need and deserve a proper gp assessment, has anyone ordered blood tests? GPs are contractually obliged to see patients, there was a miraculous change in attitude when I asked them if I should go to A&E & see a doctor there. Rattle your cage!!

Ah - just seen your bloods were -ve, but then 20% of pmr patients can be.

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Romilly2 in reply to 123mossie

It’s like one of those dreams where you are trying to get somewhere and people keep preventing you ! I’m trying to tow the line as to whatever the system is as I realise once hopefully diagnosed and on the right treatment it’s a long haul ( I’ve been reading lots of posts on here to inform myself!) I will need some sort of relationship with my local practice wether I like it or not . I have in my back up plan a private appointment with a rheumatologist on July 8th . Which I know still doesn’t guarantee success but I always try to stay optimistic if I can !

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Nextoneplease

Sorry, Romilly2, I must have missed this…..what’s an Extended scope practitioner? I’ve just got used to the idea of Physicians Assistants and now this! What does it take to see a GP these days? Feeling very frustrated on your behalf xx

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Romilly2 in reply to Nextoneplease

Yes an ESP in theory would be a good idea to take some of the workload from the GP . But it appears at my practice the GP is not going along with their recommendations!

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to Romilly2

One wonders what’s the point in employing someone then if you’re going ignore their recommendations. 🤔

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Romilly2 in reply to DorsetLady

Absolutely!

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Telian in reply to Nextoneplease

Wait for them to go on strike then you’ll see them on the picket line! That’s if you know what they look like!

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Nextoneplease

Ah, found this…..it’s a new specialist service apparently, and we’re to be thrilled 🤷‍♀️

espclinics.com/patients/wha...

Or this

nbt.nhs.uk/our-services/a-z...

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fmkkm in reply to Nextoneplease

Good grief!! I thought an extended scope was some awful medical procedure, 😂😂!I feel better now.

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Nextoneplease in reply to fmkkm

That’s what I thought too!! 😂 xx

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to fmkkm

Don’t say you feel better out loud…you’ll never get to see anyone again! 😳

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Romilly2 in reply to DorsetLady

😂😂

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fmkkm in reply to DorsetLady

It’s about the same in the US, I emailed my rheumatologist last week (the same one it takes 6 months to see) asking for adrenal testing because I am really struggling at 2.5. She has never tested my adrenals. She told me it wasn’t in her scope that I should go to an endocrinologist. Well that’s another 4 month wait, I could be off prednisone or dead by then 🤷‍♀️.

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer in reply to fmkkm

Well hopefully the former -not the latter😉

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Romilly2 in reply to fmkkm

😂😂

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PMRproAmbassador in reply to fmkkm

Suppose it could be a dual purpose endoscopy/colonoscopy that goes all the way through, whichever end they start!!

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Romilly2 in reply to PMRpro

I’m sure there’s a role for one of those too 😲

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fmkkm in reply to PMRpro

I cringe!!

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DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Just looked at it…thought that’s what they did anyway in general - couple of links if anyone is interested -

digital.nhs.uk/services/e-r...

england.nhs.uk/elective-car...

Wonder how much more money is being spent on telling your grandmother how to suck eggs!

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Romilly2 in reply to DorsetLady

Another initiative that’s good in theory but it seems the more people involved in decision making about patients the less ownership and responsibility there is unfortunately! Fair enough if it’s a complicated presentation in a complicated patient but I think I’m quite straight forward in this instance , almost text book !!

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