The ongoing third covid dose debate

[HeronNS]

I'm chuffed to see that so far Canadian vaccine decision makers seem to agree with my intuitive take on the matter . This is a long but interesting article covering a number of covid-related issues of interest to many of us, specifics probably most relevant to Canadian members, but a lot of informative takeaway for everyone:

newsletters.cbc.ca/q/11mfrk...

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I've skimmed the article as busy today but one thing I will say, and agree with, is that we aren't safe until we are all safe. How this will be achieved globally, which it must be, is one for the powers that be and for the scientists, epidemiologist, of course.Thanks for posting this.

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The latest thing I read a few days ago, applying to the US , said the FDA and CDC had not finalized approval for the general population for the booster regardless of September 20th date put out, but Pfizer was closer to approval than Moderna. More data needed.

[HeronNS in reply to Hidden]

Also the emergency approval of Pfizer for children younger than 12 is delayed because of requirement for enlarging the study group and taking more time. Pleased to see good care is being taken by the regulators.

[nuigini]

Personally, for a number of reasons, I would prefer to wait for an updated mRNA vaccine specifically tailored to delta and other emerging variants. I had a mild case of covid last February and both Pfizer pokes. A recent quantitative antibody test showed an antibody count >250 U/mL, ( the maximum reported value) . Although the report states one "should not interpret the results of the test as an indication or degree of immunity or protection from infection", it must account for something. The science just isn't there as yet.

Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind, as more and more information becomes available.

[Grammy80]

I got my booster last week in the states which is only available to immunocompromised, transplant and cancer patients. There are too many people here that are not vaccinated creating all the breakthrough infections in vaccinated people.

The US seemed like the Wild West to my Canadian family when the visited a few weeks ago!💥

[HeronNS in reply to Grammy80]

Well, we do have a bit of a Wild West of our own! Unfortunately. Hope it didn't rain the whole time you were here.

It will be interesting to learn how third shots protect people. Glad you were able to get yours. Take care!

[Grammy80]

My family from Nova Scotia visited here and we had beautiful weather, thanks. They thought the US was a bit crazy....I would agree.😊

[4840 in reply to Grammy80]

Not just a bit crazy.....more than that..... I live in the US. Part of my family lives in Canada. I see and hear the difference.

[HeronNS in reply to 4840]

Interesting that I should see your comment just after attending a British Museum lecture, via Zoom, on how to become a stoic. I am now convinced that everyone would do well to study this. The people who are causing so much turmoil on top of the basic problem of a global pandemic appear to be behaving like out of control children. With stoicism one learns how to think differently so the negative emotions simply aren't there any more. Sounds idealistic, and now I have to do some reading on the subject, but I do know from personal experience how a change in thinking can completely alter one's emotional outlook and, as a result, one's behaviour.

[Grammy80 in reply to 4840]

What I notice most is their concern and sense of responsibility to their fellow citizens....just more conscientious about infecting someone else~!

When my family visited and the homeowner they rented from came down with covid after being vaccinated, my son and daughter-in-law were primarily concerned that because they had been in three different airports they may have carried it to him. Even though they had to get negative tests before flying from Chicago to their connection in Canada; once they reached NS they tested again (on their own) and stayed home until the results were negative. To me, that is the big difference.