Losing weight after (and during) Prednisolone

[43tripandskip]

I thought you might be interested in looking at an organisation that helps establish healthy ways of eating and of losing weight. It's based in Northern Ireland and you can get details online:

wstonline.co.uk/meet-the-team/

While I was on Prednisolone I found it difficult to spend time standing in the kitchen while cooking, but I started with the 15 minute meals and altered some recipes to allow for limited choice of food during the corona virus. I found the meals satisfying and was pleased that I didn't have to count calories. Of course we all lose weight in different way, but you might enjoy some of the surprises such as a treat day once a week when you are advised to eat up to 1750 calories extra in any way you like. Despite my initial incredulity, I found that it seemed to boost my weight loss.

It looks like I've just written an advert but I realise that this way of eating won't suit everyone. I'm happy with it and hope that someone somewhere will enjoy it similarly.

[Koalajane]

This may work for you but the LCHF diet works for me

[43tripandskip in reply to Koalajane]

I agree, I also choose to cut out most carbs but at present, stay with low fat. I know quite a lot of people who have had spectacular success with LCHF, But to be honest with you, it would be an expensive option Several of them go to 'out of town' markets to pick up cheap cuts of meat. With the Corona virus around, my OH and I have to depend on a volunteer from the doctor's to do our shopping. At present, we don't get a lot of choice and are just grateful to her for her hard work. I hope you continue to do well.

[Hidden in reply to 43tripandskip]

It can be done without meat. I lost over 2st and have been vegetarian for 30yrs. But yes. I have seen some on the different diabetes forums basically live on meat and coffee with cream. No veg whatsoever! Getting good enough meat for that would be a nightmare!

[Hidden]

I think I read somewhere, probably in the diabetes UK website and forum, that low carb works for about 80% of people if they really lower the carbs. But at least 20% will not lose weight and may put weight on ....so I am sure all support welcome!!!

[Koalajane in reply to Hidden]

It certainly worked for me. I lost over 3 stone and have got my hba1c down from 55 to 35

[43tripandskip in reply to Koalajane]

Did you do it without guidance, or did you use particular references or an organisation??

[Koalajane in reply to 43tripandskip]

I did it after reading about it and then just started looking at labels and also testing my blood sugars before and after eating to see how different food affected my blood sugars

[43tripandskip in reply to Koalajane]

It sounds interesting, but for the moment I think I will stick with what I am doing. I don't have diabetes - thank goodness so I will plod along with what is available to me at the moment. Thank you for the information.

[Koalajane in reply to 43tripandskip]

I should say I discussed it with my diabetic nurse who was more than happy for me to go that way

[tangocharlie]

I'm another 'low carb high fat diet' fan but realise it doesn't suit everybody, so recipes like this and the ones in the Pinch of Nom book all encourage healthy eating and cooking from scratch, which has to be a good thing. Some of the recipes coud be adapted to take out the carbs so I'll take a look, thank you.

[43tripandskip]

I know that carbs are in nearly everything, but I've managed to eat healthily without eating any bread or raiding the biscuit tin. Interestingly, I never felt deprived, I think that's why I'm happy to continue using these recipes. Hope you continue to be successful and that you will find some recipes that you can adapt.

[Hidden in reply to 43tripandskip]

That's the main thing with any way of eating isn't it. You don't feel like you are deprived and can (try) and keep it for life....😱

[greenvegan]

I think the main thing with any diet is that it is scientifically proven by the ‘world heath organisation’ to be healthful for all stages of life, is sustainable and doesn’t cause unnecessary suffering to sentient beings. The Vegan diet is the only diet to reverse our number one killer heart disease.

[43tripandskip in reply to greenvegan]

Thank you for that information. I shall explore it.

[greenvegan in reply to 43tripandskip]

Thank you 😊

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to greenvegan]

Only if it is the right sort of plant-based diet:

health.harvard.edu/staying-...

and the bhf don't wholeheartedly support the claim it can "reverse" heart disease

bhf.org.uk/informationsuppo...

"A study published in 2014 looked at 198 patients to further investigate whether eating a strict plant-based diet could stop or reverse heart disease. It found of the 177 patients who stuck to the diet, the majority reported a reduction in symptoms and 22 per cent had disease reversal confirmed by test results."

but the truth is in the next bit:

"But that study didn’t just rule out animal products – it also cut out added oils, processed foods, sugar, refined carbohydrates, excess salt, fruit juice, avocado, and nuts. Physical activity was also encouraged and prescribed medication continued."

So - the RIGHT vegan diet, but it probably wouldn't work in isolation either.

[Hidden in reply to greenvegan]

I think a "may" reverse heart disease statement might be more correct.

I wondered if you could provide a link to the scientific research? I am genuinely interested I was vegan for 8yrs and have been vegetarian for 22yrs and have seen more plant based products stuffed with trans fats and other fats in the past 2 years than in 20yrs. The only thing I could find before was on removing trans fats. I am also unsure that it is good across the life course if it's not the right vegan diet.

[greenvegan]

This is true, I should say a ‘plant based diet’ as vegan could mean eating Oreos all day 😊yes they are vegan. I will find some links in the mean time this is a good watch youtu.be/k8hgfXmZSHE(Not working as expected?)

[PMRpro Ambassador in reply to greenvegan]

I'm not sure that this is acceptable as "scientific links" supporting the claims for a plant based diet since this critical review

healthline.com/nutrition/ho...

makes several points about " its repeated misrepresentation of research to fit the plant-based ideology."

[Hidden in reply to greenvegan]

I have tried to research some of the links on the website regarding funding and support, but all smoke and mirrors and 404 me everytime. I wanted proper peer reviewed scientific information. It's very sad as I would also like people to stop eating or seeing animals as resources to make money from. For me this is not the evidence I can present to people as indicative of any benefits from a vegan or vegetarian diet. In fact the treatise on c19 is dangerous in the current climate. The fact that you are following a plant based diet and still got PMR should give you pause for thought about these types of programmes.

[greenvegan in reply to Hidden]

I am vegan for the animals first and foremost, That being said a plant based diet is the only diet that has been known to reverse heart disease, diabetes and can prevent some cancers . Vegetarians can not be grouped in studies on vegans as they eat cholesterol in dairy and eggs. I did not say it was a cure for all ills, but I do well under the circumstances. pcrm.org/health-topics/hear.... The problem I find is many studies are largely funded by the meat and dairy, very powerful industries . ‘Game changers’ on Netflix is very informative, and backed up by studies all referenced. I just think it would be worth looking into, it’s also an anti inflammatory diet.

[43tripandskip in reply to greenvegan]

This is very interesting. Thank you for the information

[greenvegan]

youtu.be/_TokqrtFfi8(Not working as expected?)

[43tripandskip in reply to greenvegan]

Thanks for the information. It's certainly thought provoking.

[greenvegan in reply to 43tripandskip]

Thank you for taking the time to look into this way of life, for me I wish I’d done it sooner. I wish you all the best and good health.

[greenvegan]

health.harvard.edu/staying-...