This link has been posted on the VasculitisUK's forum today:
vasculitis.org.uk/uncategor...
It is written in sensible and understandable language and explodes some myths!
With thanks to John Mills for the groundwork!
Corona virus: VasculitisUK's advice: This link has... - PMRGCAuk
Corona virus: VasculitisUK's advice
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Thanks, as you say dispels a few myths.
I'm just back from the dentist who was surprised that I didn't want to shake hands. Things we do without thinking everyday.
in reply to scats
My hands have been too sore to shake hands for a few years. The last time I shook hands the bloke squeezed and shook... There were tears. At least they wear masks and gloves. I am at the dental hospital. They don't shake hands cos they get sick of washing their hands. The do before they put gloves on so an I between wash or two would really put the numbers up!
scats in reply to
Hope you're not having anything too nasty done.
What really amused me at the dentist was a sign on the reception desk saying don't enter the building if you have any symptoms of the virus!
A touch of - Bolting the stable door after the horse escaped! Bless🤦🏻♀️
in reply to DorsetLady
😂🤣😂
I am hoping that eventually it will be put on the outside door. If it's still there when I go back next week I will say something.
They will probably look at you blankly!
You should have pointed out the lack of logic ...
Logic? Whazat?
Like common sense, a commodity in short supply it seems!
Thanks for this-helpful. However, non-plussed by the same website, on its PMR page, saying ibuprofen may be used and symptoms often go within 1 month- 1 year! Really?
There are things about VUK I don't understand either! But I read this and decided it was OK for dissemination 
Very sensible advice. Thank you for posting it.
Thank you!!
I’m a “face-toucher” so trying to practice avoiding this behaviour starting now.
Now, if we can stop the spread of panic that would help too (good luck given the media buzz and people having access to a whole range of sources).
in reply to PMRCanada
Put spiky gloves on or something sticky at home 😉. It really is hard. I now use the back of my hand for an itch but not sure that's any better!
As soon as I think "must not touch face" I start to feel every hair touching my forehead, my nose gets a tickle, my eye feels like something has fallen into it.... aaaargh
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Yep!
in reply to HeronNS
I used the back of my left hand to move my hair and rub my nose and chin 4 times whentyping my message above. It really freaked me how automatic it was.
Helps having one arm in a sling 🤣😂🤣!
I'll pass on that though thanks ...
Some people have no sense of adventure! 🤦🏻♀️
I’ve been consciously trying to concentrate on not touching my face today and it’s just made me realise how often I actually do it..... 🙁
Realised I was touching my face as I was reading your reply! Although some experts say a mask is useless and will make you touch your face more often anyway, others suggest the one use for a mask is it will remind you not to touch your face!
I just read on another site that someone was wondering if there would be a measurable decrease in the usual diseases as a result of the surge in hand washing (and presumably decrease in face touching)......good question! 🤔
I investigated a bit further and the Wall Street Journal suggests that that is exactly what is happening in Japan....fewer cases of flu this year.
Would really be interesting if the level of air pollution in locked down areas has reduced.🚘✈️
Someone from the WHO (I think) said this morning that there is no point wearing a mask unless you have symptoms - and not to generally buy and use masks because they need to be kept for medical staff. You can, after all, cover your face with a scarf ...
Excellent advice. Written in plain English. Thanks.
in reply to Estellemac
Yes plain english always the best... I know they need to use some medical vocab.... But if we are at certain high doses, tapering, or just gaga.. We need to have some junderstanding.
Iam going to go thru my day just like any other day.I ll try to avoid crowds and have stocked up a bit more food.Thats so i can limit my trips to the store.Was worried at first with all the news but now i think its just media attention.
I touch my face all the time, I'm going to have to work on this! I've just come in from our back garden cabin and into the bathroom. After I'd switched the light on I started to become more conscious of what I touched. After going to the loo I washed my hands thoroughly then used a piece of toilet paper to unlock the door open it and switch the light out. The door into the dining/ kitchen room was open and the lights on. So far all well and good. My downfall started in the kitchen. First thing I do is eat a bit of left over food from one of my grandsons' plates (I know I shouldn't really but I'm easily tempted ☹) Next I open a drawer to get a pan out, lift the lid on the cooker and on it goes. Finally of course there were the plates and cutlery from the communal stock. I could have washed my hands thoroughly after dishing up but I'd still be touching the cutlery. I suspect stopping the any spread from the family would be almost impossible!
I suspect the use of a dishwasher would help a lot. I must start using the 60C wash maybe ...
If only we had a dishwasher, or room for one. My daughter was talking to a friend on Facebook who said maybe we could isolate ourselves in our cabin but I'm not sure how practical that would be. It's not really warm enough to use full time yet and although we now have a microwave out there and a can set up a gas ring there's not much room for food storage. If a family member did get the virus we'd probably have caught it by the time we knew they had it. I'm not really too worried right now but I do enjoy planning!
Until we moved to Germany him indoors helped with the dishwashing - he can't cook, even the dog would turn their nose up, but he did either wash or dry. In Germany that went by the board - he claimed none of his colleagues did. I pointed out that was because they all had dishwashers (they did). There was no space in our furst flat but when we moved it came with a sink unit and nothing else. The first extra that was put in was my birthday present - a scratched but new dishwasher and the rest of the kitchen was built around it. Haven't been without one since - best part of 40 years!
In those days "it wasn't DONE for
men to work in the home" here. If you couldn't manage you had someone in. Now the youngsters help much more - but, of course, their wives nearly all work full time too.
The first thing on my daughter's wedding list was "dishwasher" - before fridge/freezer. She thought the latter was always included in the kitchen.😂
I'd rather be without a washing machine for a week than my dishwasher!! Kitchen cleared up straight into it even before dinner, washed and dried ready for the cupboard by breakfast and I didn't have to do anything much at all!!
I don't have to do anything at all either.😂 David does it all!😂😂
Obviously your model works better than mine
Always has I believe! Good year 1935.
These modern examples seem not to be built as well ...
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i told my hubby he would have to wash up when his daughter decided to go and live with her mum again. he got me a dishwasher within a week and i have had one now for 22 years lol. so like you will up the temp if we start getting the lurgy close to us
in reply to candy28
I have heard that threat works for some.
My husband has always washed dishes and never wanted a dishwasher. Now he cooks too because I'm often too tired by the evening, we take it in turns and I make sure we have ready meals in stock if I'm just not up to it. He doesn't like cooking but he has a few staples that he does well. Now we have the rest of the family with us he does 'our' washing up and our son in law does most of theirs. He'd really like a dishwasher so we might see if we can rejig the kitchen somehow to fit one in
Mine can do fried eggs and chips - he did manage better in the UK where he could buy pies and bacon but he'd struggle with bacon now even if we could get it!
If I'm not up to it we do 'long distant cooking' He brings veg etc for me to prepare then I yell through instructions "turn that on at....., stir that one every four minutes, etc etc . That way I get the meals we both want.😂😂
That sounds good. My husband is happy to help with prepping and taking things in and out of the oven but doesn't do too well with instructions
Are any husbands good at taking instructions?
Probably not!
Mine certainly wasn’t! Well, he was to a certain extent in his Army days - but sure many would say “not very good!”
in reply to Louisepenygraig
Mine is only half size but fits 4 settings and a couple of pans. With its legs shortened ...they have screw in feet, they will fit under the draining board side of that cupboard . You want it near the cold water fitting, iwhich is DIY doable and I put a new joint on the waste pipe and bobs your uncle. I once plumbed a small washer under the sink in a rented place too. Oh if I wasn't self isolating 😉
Louisepenygraig in reply to
To start with I thought you were talking about husbands!
in reply to Louisepenygraig
I nearly edited it to say I didnt have oh with expandable legs?!
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