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The last one!

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After two and a half years, two flares and all the side effects Pred causes, I’m free!! Today I took my last steroid tablet. Thank you so so much to whoever created the Dead Slow Nearly Stop method of tapering. I used this method from a daily dose of 10mg down and it’s certainly worked for me. I’m still having to take methotrexate for the rest of the year (15 mg once a week) but this is such a great step forward. I do so wish you all the same success.

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DorsetLady profile image
DorsetLadyPMRGCAuk volunteer

Good news, and good luck.

SheffieldJane profile image
SheffieldJane

Lovely news! Did you find Methotrexate a big help with not too many downsides?

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Paulamac77 in reply toSheffieldJane

Yes I certainly think MTX helped. I am luckier than some. Apart from thinning hair, I didn’t suffer any other side effects. My rheumatologist is adamant I must remain on MTX for another year but will consider lowering the dose to 10mg per week next year. To anyone hesitating about taking it, I can only say try it, it’s worth it to help get off steroids.

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SheffieldJane in reply toPaulamac77

Thanks Paulamac77 !

Congratulations & All The Best for the future 🍀

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Yellowbluebell

Well done. Let us know how you are getting on.c

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Marilyn1959

What a poignant photo. Really symbolic. May you be PMR free forever. Congrats! :) :) :)

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Baileyw06

Congratulations 😊

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coda123

That is so good to hear. Stay well!

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DianeA1

Please keep us updated! All the best!

👍👍👍

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Mkhj

That is so encouraging. 👍🏻

Rose54 profile image
Rose54

Congratulations and good luck

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Brixhamhampster

Paulamac77 really pleased for you

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Pippah45

Well done! I am also going down and a very steroid knowledgeable friend sent me this

Which might be of interest to others.

Please watch this little video

youtube.com/watch?v=WD3Ovw2...

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JanetGarrettN in reply toPippah45

Very informative video thank you for sharing.

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Reader7 in reply toPippah45

Sorry...I'm always a skeptic. I wasn't quite buying the information presented in this video clip. Media Bias/Fact Check's statement about iHealthtube says that, "overall, this is simply an unreliable source for credible medical and scientific information." mediabiasfactcheck.com/ihea...

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Soraya_PMR in reply toReader7

Have to admit I lost faith when she mentioned ashwagandha. Possibly ok for some, but not those on pred.

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Paulamac77 in reply toPippah45

Very interesting. Thank you.

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Pippah45 in reply toPaulamac77

I listed the herbs and things I take to help inflammation and my Rheumatologist beamed and said what great job I was doing. It is good to be open minded I feel. We just have to do our research. Ashwaghanda isn't on my list but I know quite a few people who swear by it.

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HeronNS in reply toPippah45

Ashwagandha stimulates the immune system, so not recommended for auto immune disorders.

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Pippah45 in reply toHeronNS

This is true - however some of it's other benefits are thought to out weigh. A case of doing our own research I think. I wouldn't touch AA or anything else with aspartame in it with a barge pole but some people swear by it.

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HeronNS in reply toPippah45

What I read makes me think it probably is a very effective treatment for certain conditions - because the list of cautions is so long! I would never self-medicate with something like that, too dangerous I think. Isn't AA alendronic acid, and where does aspartame fit into this conversation?

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Pippah45 in reply toHeronNS

Alendronic Acid contains Aspartame. The list of cautions on Prednisolone is extensive too and I was told I had no choice.

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HeronNS in reply toPippah45

Yes, but you weren't self-medicating with prednisone. And I wouldn't touch AA with a ten foot pole. Why would it have aspartame in it?

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Pippah45 in reply toHeronNS

Aspartame has crept into an awful lot of things - I tried to get a throat Lozenge in Boots without the stuff in - and there wasn't one.

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HeronNS in reply toPippah45

I suppose that's to save the teeth. Ricola has several kinds of sugar in it!

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Pippah45 in reply toHeronNS

Save teeth and wreck the Central Nervous System - your choice.

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OutdoorsyGal in reply toPippah45

Try to find sugarless chewing gum without it!

Only the Dentyne Fire and other cinnamon gums seem to be aspartame-free.

Used to be Trident Original flavor was OK, but xilitol has been replaced with Aspartame. Perhaps in response to xilitol being toxic to dogs. My neighbor had her Shitzu’s stomach pumped when he ate her wad of gum she’d taken out to eat lunch.

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OutdoorsyGal in reply toOutdoorsyGal

I’ve gone back to sugared gums, like Doublemint.

My dentist says the sugar is gone after a few minutes of chewing anyway...

in reply toOutdoorsyGal

Also applies if you eat sweets, it's better to eat what you are going to eat at once rather than sucking each one making them last all day. Sugar goes in one go. God I miss sweeties. Especially now they have brought back the memory sweets.

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Pippah45 in reply toOutdoorsyGal

If you enjoy a G&T it was quite a search but now Fever Tree is more widely available. I don't know how "You know Who" get away with calling it "Original Tonic Water." I am sure the Original was born long before Aspartame! I had a bad reaction in a pub one day...wretched barman had given me the slimline variety which was very cheeky of him! I should have demanded a proper one but I was on my bike and didn't need another gin!

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PMRproAmbassador in reply toPippah45

I have quickly developed a weakness for Fentimans!!

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Paulamac77 in reply toPMRpro

Oooh me too! Lovely stuff especially when I’m allowed a small gin.

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Rokerman

Well done you and good luck for the future!

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patriciawhite

Yeeaaaaayyyy !

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Estellemac

Excellent 👍👍👍

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9lives

Well done you, that’s so encouraging to others . Love the photo too.

I’m 3 years PMR this month. Always remember going to the Chelsea flower show, after taking my first dose of prednisone the day before, and I couldn’t believe how much better I felt. I’m now down to 2.5 dropping to 2 mg after following the Dsns reduction . It hasn’t been without its ups and downs but could never of done it without this support site and all the valuable information from all of you all.

Good luck Paulamac77 you should frame the prednisone box I think xx

Carole

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Paulamac77 in reply to9lives

What a good idea Carole. Maybe I’ll frame one tablet to remind me I NEVER want to take steroids again. x

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Mindful3

Congratulations! It gives us all hope .

PMRpro profile image
PMRproAmbassador

Thank you - I do hope it lasts! DSNS was "mine" - but it was based on an idea from Ragnar the Swede who worked out a way to get below 5mg when he got stuck again and again.

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Paulamac77 in reply toPMRpro

Well I can’t thank you enough for this effective way of tapering. It was easy on my system and I never felt unwell because the drop was so gradual.

PMRpro you deserve a medal. I have every confidence my GCA will remain in remission. (Fingers crossed of course).

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allykat

Wonderful news. All the best!

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Soraya_PMR

There is life after pred! Well done.

jinasc profile image
jinasc

Developed by Patient Power.....................🤔

Ragnar (Sweden) started it, PMRpro then tweaked it. I tweaked it as Tortoise and Hare and then it went out, free of charge with a covering note to say 'not Medically approved.

Both were distributed widely, free of charge for over 8 years and they still are sent out on request. They have gone to so many countries.

That is the short story version, we printed an A4 page with the history and with thanks to Ragnar.

A very small research test was done and it 'thumbs up' - however as it was small it is just one step forward.

Many more reduction plans have now been developed as you can see from this site.

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Paulamac77 in reply tojinasc

Without this site and people like yourself, I would have remained lost in my own misery and still struggling I’m sure.

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Noosat

Hurrah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PJarret

Wonderful news!

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bunnymom

Congratulations! You made it to the other side 🌞

Jackoh profile image
Jackoh

Wonderful news. Do hope all goes well for you. Very poignant photo!! X

PMRCanada profile image
PMRCanada

How excited you must be! Please do keep us up to date as posts from people who successfully experience the end of their pred journey, and remission, give those of us who are still in the thick of it, hope and inspiration.

Celebrate this important day. Wishing you smooth sailing moving forward.

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Paulamac77 in reply toPMRCanada

It may take time but I’m sure many more of you on this site will join me in steroid freedom in due course. I will continue to follow everyone’s posts (and keep you informed of my progress occasionally). Thank you each and everyone for your support. It means a lot.

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jannie21

Welcome to club zero. I have been in remission since 2015 so it can happen. Wishing you all the best for the future, Jannie x

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Paulamac77 in reply tojannie21

Thank you so much. This gives me confidence that I will not relapse.

Chaucer profile image
Chaucer

What is the DSNS reduction?

in reply toChaucer

Hi Chaucer...it's the dead slow nearly stop method. Please find details in this thread.

healthunlocked.com/pmrgcauk...

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clieder

Congratulations! So good to celebrate with someone reaching that magic zero. Enjoy!

OutdoorsyGal profile image
OutdoorsyGal

Not to rain on anyone’s parade, but isn’t the day you take your last dose of prednisone a bit soon to declare victory?

Several days to a week must pass to rule out steroid withdrawal, and a week or more to make sure there isn’t a relapse. After 6 painfree months, you might be home free.

Interested to hear how you’re doing in a few weeks. I’m sincerely hoping that you’re as good as you feel now.

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Paulamac77 in reply toOutdoorsyGal

The DSNS method of tapering has helped me to reduce the risk of steroidal withdrawal symptoms with its oh so gentle weekly reduction and before my very last dose I had already gone six days steroid free and five days the week before that hence my elation that I might finally no longer need this drug. I still have to take methotrexate each week for the rest of the year but I’m happy I’m free of the dreaded Pred. You’re right, OutdoorsyGal, I cannot proclaim total victory just yet but watch this space and thank you kindly for your good wishes.

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OutdoorsyGal

Your joy is infectious. And long-lasting, too, I hope!

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Paulamac77 in reply toOutdoorsyGal

Thank you kind Lady. Stay well yourself.

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