My Methodology

[WIZARD6787]

Shout out to Sleepybunny for doing the work which led me to consider if B2 would improve my life.

I now have a methodology to start my work to determine if I want to try a trial to determine if B2 improves my life.

I will start with doing some study on toxicity. I will not find anything that will convince me it is safe only if it is known it is toxic. That is all that is ever available. I will not find long term study that is definitive and that is as good as it is going to get.

I will then do some study on upper tolerable limits. Knowing that this is not toxicity rather what is generally thought not to cause negative side effects for most people. It is not definitive for me.

I will then do some study on testing. Understanding just because there is a test it may not be a test measuring improvement to my life.

After doing this work I will do some study with the concept of trying to as best I can to determine the probability of a trial being worthwhile.

I will be using the methodology I have developed over the last 4 years and will keep developing.

As a general rule the recommended amounts tend to be very conservative/not as effective as is possible.

If I should determine to do a therapeutic trial I will create a space in my to evaluate with the understanding that if B2 is effective I may experience a downturn and will not assume that is a side effect.

I can always find pseudo experts who will be more confident they know what I should or should not do than I ever will be. Thing is they are not the person that is taking the risk of not improving my life.

I am headed to being resigned to the fact that as my body changes I will have to do trials of elimination to determine if a supplement is still appropriate.

As I have successfully self-treated where symptoms would not indicate B12D I now think in terms of supplementing to improve my life rather than limit my thinking to B12D.

Although I have been successful it does not follow that I will continue to be successful with every supplement I trial. Some trials fail although I allow I may want to do another trial at a later date. That happened with methyl folate.

Here is the thing. It is not all I can do it is what I am capable of doing to improve my life. That is hard for me as I am a minimalist by experience and perhaps by nature. When I look at my pile of supplements I sometimes shake my head in disbelief. Nothing for it but to not experience life in a way I value more.

[Jillymo]

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK4...

[Wheat in reply to Jillymo]

Thank you, interesting.

[Raven_Cat]

YES, this is why this forum is so valuable,

Myself, I was not aware of a connection of B12 & B2.

We are all so different, my theory has been for a long time that we are all vestibules of chemical & hormonal soup.

Keep up the momentum, it may or may not make a difference, BUT, why not try.

If there was one true path to health, we would all be doing it,

I don't think anyone on this forum is stupid or misguided.

We are all just out for the solution for our troubles as we see them where there is no solution.

Good luck, you seem excited, I am happy for you. Please share your findings.

[bookish in reply to Raven_Cat]

I agree. I read some time ago that B2 and B6 play a part in the folate/methylation cycles (one carbon metabolism) as well as folate and B12, and I tested a bit low on B6, so I take some of both. My neurologist said he can never get anyone to test B2 for his patients. It may be my imagination, but when I run out of B2, as now, I don't feel quite as well. Now I've had the reminder, I shall get some more.....Methylfolate made a huge difference for me, but we are all different in requirement and stage of healing.

[WIZARD6787]

Well that study went well. I thought I was just starting and came across a site that included this which melds with the other work I did and is good for my use to my satisfaction.

Riboflavin Dosing

The optimal dosing of oral riboflavin is unknown. Oral riboflavin has been prescribed, and reported as effective, in dosing ranging from 10 to 80 mg/kilogram bodyweight/day (400 to 2700mg daily total for adults) divided into 2, 3 or 4 doses per day and taken with food.

[B12life]

Chris masterjohn

[WIZARD6787 in reply to B12life]

TY

[B12life in reply to WIZARD6787]

He is a PhD in nutrition and has articles on how to balance the various nutrients. Also a book/pdf with symptoms and likely causes.

For my purposes, I find his information the most useful of any other nutrition expert.

NIH is also my other source.

Through him I found that niacin is not something to dose with unless creative is balanced and he explains how to balance the two.

[WIZARD6787]

I did look him up. The book has yet to be released. I may wait for that as I can read faster than anyone can talk. Interesting on the Niacin and creatine. I assume the creative is a auto correct thing. I take Niacinamide as Niacin and NAD cause flushing for me.

Thing is we creative is people that lack it have no idea that they do. 🙂