help please ! Pre diabetes ?

[Reembow]

so today after eating I got a reading of 145 on my glucose monitor, the reason why I tested is because I wasn't feeling well and I started to sweat. I checked around 30min to 45 minutes after eating. I feel really unwell and I am questioning if it is prediabetes. Any info you can help me with ?

thanks

Reem x

[Technoid]

There is a diabetes support forum on HealthUnlocked, you may get answers there from others with more expertise in that topic:

healthunlocked.com/diabetes...

AFAIK you need to check 2 hours after a meal, not 30-45 mins. Glucose excursions directly following a meal are physiologically normal but chronically elevated glucose points to an issue.

To convert between UK and US units this converter may be helpful:

diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-...

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6d40...(Not working as expected?)

[LynneG]

Hi Reembow, you are obviously stressed about sugar levels.

Can I suggest you listen to this video interview. I found very interesting and lots of information. Hope this will help with some of your concerns and how to address them

youtube.com/watch?v=3esF-pN...(Not working as expected?)

[Technoid in reply to LynneG]

If you want to learn about Diabetes, blood sugar and related topics, the first thing to do is to stop watching or listening to anything from the "Glucose Goddess".

drguess.substack.com/p/the-...

As Nicola Guess memorably puts it:

"because Inchauspé doesn’t understand (or pretends not to?), dose, duration of exposure and overall context, the end result is an omnishambles of wrongness. "

[LynneG in reply to Technoid]

oh sorry, I had just come across this video last week and thought I'd get a rounded view / opposing my view as the name glucose goddess seemed to imply a different view to my own. But then when I listened, the use of glucose monitors and dietry interventions seemed valid. I do apologise

[Gambit62 Administrator]

Reembow Diabetes is off topic for this forum. As Technoid says there are other forums on HU that deal specifically with diabetes.

As diabetes is a serious condition I'd recommend that you consult with a medical professional. The usual test used for diagnosis is HBa1C - looks at a protein that builds up in the blood if blood sugars aren't controlled.

[Bellabab in reply to Gambit62]

Diabetes Type2 has symptoms of fatigue, apathy, slow healing of wounds, tinnitus, etc. so all the symptoms of B12 deficiency. As such it should not be off topic here at all as it should be ruled out if a B12 deficiency is suspected. As you say HBa1C blood tests will diagnose Type 2. Once diagnosed its possible to get permanent remission of Type 2 diabetes by heavy dieting under medical supervision and then monitor it with biannual checks of Hba1C. Its possible to have Type 2 and PA.

[LynneG]

I agree with bellabab. There is nothing more crucial to all health than blood sugar. We do not need to have diabetes/pre diabetes to take blood sugar into consideration when looking at our health. Blood sugar traits and insulin production should be considered in everyone whether diagnosed as diabetic or not because of its correlation with methylation.

[Gambit62 Administrator in reply to LynneG]

LynneG Bellabab This forum is about Pernicious Anaemia. I agree that the symptoms of B12 deficiency caused by Pernicious Anaemia and those of diabetes overlap but they also overlap with a number of other conditions, some of which may be autoimmune and hence more likely to co-occur with PA. However, that doesn't mean that this forum is the correct place to discuss diabetes specifically. There are a large number of forums available on HU that provide support for patients with diabetes and patients at risk of diabetes. Also, HU isn't a substitute for professional advice on medical questions.

Happy for discussion of living with multiple auto-immune conditions to happen on the forum (providing one of them is PA) but if discussion is specific to another auto-immune condition I don't believe this is the right forum for that discussion.

It is also true that B12 deficiency can be a cause of keto-acidosis - which can be an extremely dangerous condition more commonly associated with diabetes.

[LynneG]

Hi Gambit, I see your point.

I was just thinking that many without diabetes but have blood sugar problems whether they know it or not and have B12 issues then basically people with B12 issues should keep an eye on their Blood Sugar re the connection with low B12 or B12 /folate deficiency. They wouldnt necessarily venture into a diabetes forum as may not even know about such a correlation but if mentioned on here then may learn and investigate and so such a conversation should be raised ? Just my thoughts

Just done a quick google

Vitamin B12 and insulin have a complex relationship, with both affecting each other in several ways:

Vitamin B12 regulates insulin

Vitamin B12 can increase insulin sensitivity and regulate insulin secretion.

B12 deficiency can cause insulin resistance

A deficiency in vitamin B12 can lead to insulin resistance and lipogenesis. This is because B12 is a cofactor in the conversion of methylmalonic acid to succinylcholine, and when B12 is deficient, methylmalonic acid builds up.

Diabetes can lead to B12 deficiency

People with diabetes are more likely to be deficient in B12.

Metformin can decrease B12 absorption

Metformin, a medication used to treat insulin resistance, can decrease the absorption of vitamin B12. However, vitamin B12 supplements and metformin can be taken together safely.

B12 deficiency and diabetes can increase neuropathy

Both diabetes and vitamin B12 deficiency can lead to neuropathy, a condition that damages the nervous system. When both conditions occur together, the neuropathy can be more severe

[Questions4U]

Try and A1C test - I know many including myself seem to stay in a pre diabetic stage for decades.