Nail ridges

[Lurcher-lady]

Does anyone get horizontal nail ridges. I’ve been getting them for a couple of years now. They’re like indents across the nail and just before they’ve grown out another will start. They’re more prominent on the thumbs. My doctor just laughed and said they were probably trauma...........on both hands lol? At the same time I developed white spots with no pigment on my arms!

[15beansoup]

Yes, I to have washboard nails thats what I call them and some Dr.s think your crazy for even bringing it up it seems to rip my nails more easily. My regular Dr. always tells me dont worry about them that its just part of PA.

[Sleepybunny]

Hi,

"At the same time I developed white spots with no pigment on my arms!"

Has GP considered the possibility of vitiligo which is sometimes associated with PA?

pernicious-anaemia-society....

vitiligosociety.org.uk/

When my symptoms were really bad I used to be prone to fungal skin infections which left white patches when they healed.

Link about nail conditions

nhs.uk/conditions/nail-prob...

Above link has a slide show of nail problems at bottom of page. It mentions that horizontal ridges can be linked to psoriasis, excema and there are other potential causes.

Psoriasis is a condition that can be associated with PA.

I am not medically trained.

[Alfabeta]

I have vertical ridges - I believe They are age related.

Dr Porter wrote about nails in Tuesdays Times 2

[ChrisG123]

Check out this new video posted a couple days ago (July 20th 2019) by Dr Berg on how to determine nutritional deficiencies through looking at your nails: youtu.be/RopzcyBbXDk(Not working as expected?)

[ChrisG123]

Oh and you mentioned white spots on your arms. Are you eating foods containing copper and/or supplementing with copper?

Dr Berg from June 24th: youtu.be/3qzn1MF7X5I(Not working as expected?)

[Lurcher-lady in reply to ChrisG123]

I’ve no idea....is that bad?

[ChrisG123 in reply to Lurcher-lady]

A certain amount of copper is good. Cashews and liver are a good source.

[Lurcher-lady in reply to ChrisG123]

I’m vegetarian so couldn’t possibly eat liver, but I do eat lots of cashews, they’re my favourite nut. Thanks for the reply

[ChrisG123 in reply to Lurcher-lady]

A 1mg copper supplement might also be beneficial just to make sure it isn't a problem..

[Lurcher-lady in reply to ChrisG123]

Thank you, I’ll give that a go

[Cherylclaire Forum Support]

Yes I had white spots on forearms especially, never developed into anything else, which I have read somewhere is a B12 deficiency symptom ( may have been on B12 def. list )- and hasn't spread/ joined up like vitiligo seems to do over time.

My mum developed vitiligo directly from jab in her arm -she could never remember what she was being immunised against and this gradually spread over top of arm and shoulder. Very clear auto-immune reaction !

I also had pitted nails with vertical ridges, often with little vertical black streaks - dried blood - that took an age to grow out, nails being thin and weak. Yes worst on thumbs. No moons except for thumbnails. These have got considerably better over time.

If you google "B12 deficiency and fingernails", - it could've been a whole lot worse !

[lesbud1]

yes I have ridges. I know they say it can be age related but I had them twenty years ago and I wasn't old then.

[Gaudygoat]

People are often reporting problems with nails and looking back I'm wondering if they were the first sign that something was wrong.

I always had very good nails. As a man it was almost embarrassing that ladies would frequently comment that I had great half moons and they wished they had nails like mine. Then about 3 years before they detected my low B12, first one thumb then the other deteriorated. I was convinced it was a fungal infection but the test came back negative. Over the next couple of years all my nails started to deteriorate with heavy vertical striations and horizontal indentations and dents and the half moons all but disappeared. They remained in this poor state until I started self injecting after which they (and plenty of more serious issues) improved considerably. The thumb nails still show some striations and dents but nothing like the state they were in, while the finger nails seem to have returned more or less to full health.

Might be unrelated...but I don't think so.

[Lurcher-lady in reply to Gaudygoat]

Sounds exactly like me. I put the vertical lines down to ageing. 68. but, then I’d have expected it to be more gradual, but the horizontal ones are getting deeper. Tried to put a pic on but I don’t think I can. Thanks for replying.

[Freezeframe in reply to Lurcher-lady]

I have 2 large horizontal lines right now across both big toe nails. They are called Beau lines. Many reasons why it happens. You can guess on the outgrowth how long the trauma happened. What can happen is a traumatic event stops the growth of the nail. It could be from emotional stress or I found vitamin deficiency. Hummm mine is about 3/4 grown out or about 6 months time. It just happens to coincide with my initial b12 load. Double Hummm . I tried to include a picture but it wouldn’t load.

[waveylines in reply to Gaudygoat]

Thats exactly what happened to my nails vertical ridges, very weak but now after nearly a year of lots of b12 injections my nails are nearly back to normal.

[Lurcher-lady in reply to waveylines]

Thanks, how often do you inject?

[jacrjacr]

articles.mercola.com/sites/...

[Gaudygoat]

Of course...it could just be trauma, from constantly wringing our hands in exasperation at the treatment from the GPs!