Do B12 injections ‘block out’ your emotions ?

[Ryaan]

I inject Vit B12 every 2 weeks. I also take Vit D (took a course of D3 20,000iu 2 a week for 20 weeks), then taking 2000iu daily as a maintenance dose. I also recently upped my Folic Acid from 400mcg to 2mg for the last 10 days or so as I was getting low Folate symptoms (I know this as last time I had these symptoms my GP gave me 5mg Folic Acid and my symptoms disappeared after a while).

I don’t know if this is a silly question. My uncle passed away recently and we were quite close but I didn’t feel anything, no grief, no tears although I did feel and still feel quite sad about it but I didn’t feel any more than that.

The most recent change is taking Vit D 2000iu for the last 2 weeks roughly.

I’m not an overwhelming emotional person and don’t generally show my emotions......but me not feeling any loss when my uncle passed away is not like me.

So my question is has it got something to do with any of the above. (B12 injections, Vit D, Folic Acid).

I felt horrible before taking the Vit D tablets, like seasonal aided (SAD).

I don’t feel joy, excitement, fear, happiness, emotional as if all my emotions are “blocked”. I’ve made no other changes. I feel like a machine rather than human. In my mind I think it’s the Vit D.

I would just like to add that this month instead of 2 B12 injections I’ve had 4. I usually inject every 2 weeks but I had B12 which I ordered from Versandapo and in between my normal 2 weekly injections I also injected after 1 week of my normal injection (uk), I injected 1 from Versandapo, then my normal injection (uk) after a week, then again after 1 week the Versandapo and then 1 week after my usual (uk) injection. Both are Hydroxocobalamin.

So B12 (uk) 1 injection

After 7 days Versandapo injection

After 7 days (uk) injection

After another 7 days versandapo one. I was kind of checking the potency of versandapo injections and to see if I feel that extra injection in between my 2 weekly normal injection. I don’t need an injection more than 1 every 2 weeks but was just checking (experimenting) with the German injections as I haven’t used them yet.

It’s not a good feeling to feel no emotions as it applies to all emotions. Could it be the extra B12 I had (2 shots ?).

Like I said this may seem like a silly question but that’s what has happened.

Has anyone had a similar experience?

[Fudgemanjim]

Hi ryan, sorry to hear its such sad times for you, to be honest not feeling mucg at funerals of those close can be normal... at least in my case.... sometimes sadness comes much later... which maybe i geuss is shock or a coping mechanisim or maybe even narcassim on my part (i dont think so though people keep telling me im too nice to everyone ... they may just be nice themselves though)

But i always found without b12 or when its due excessivley emotional..

Especially before more regular doses....but i think tgats because PA effects nervous system amd so on and mood swings are a part of it.... so MAYBE its one of tgose mood swings as part of PA ir deficoency or body healing.... to best of my knolledge b12 has very little effect on those who dont need it so i cant see how it would block emotions... but i do think the condition its for causes mood isdues (i was thought to be bi polar until a phyc spent 2 years and many unessasary antiphycoticss _)-now they numb emotiin for sure i was zpmbie!-figuring out it was all my b12 levels and PA ... id go manic around jab times and depressed when due jab... turns out most likley just pain and all bad symptoms and then relief of them)

I found a emotanial rollercoaster as i healed from a much much worse state physically (walking imposs, breathing etc) which may have been effect of mood from CNS or somthkg or fro. The scaryness and stress so maybe simlar for you..... now emotikns are alot more stable but im on quite regular jabs as symptoms show and ive never really thought of emotions as a symptom.till this....go by nerve pain stuff breathing burning bones and confusion... again i think maybe my emotional things may have just been fear related due to severity of pain and sudden mobilty impact and now thats much better emotions are.... but im rambling

Im.no medical person... just giving my opinion and experince to try and help...i may be entirley wrong and misleading as just based on my experimce and assumptions... also myemory is pretty destroyed so i geuss alot (maybe thats links to b12 and emotion too?) as always theres far more knolledgabke people on here

[Ryaan in reply to Fudgemanjim]

Yes I noticed before next injection was due it would make me feel very depressed and emotional. That only went away after SI.

I also noticed a big difference in breathing problems (felt short of breath, sighs etc and palpitations) A lot better after upping my Folic Acid from daily 400ug to 2mg just recently. My gp gave me 5mg 2 years ago, I will request again as I can only buy 400ug over the counter. Reading your reply I do realise B12 really stabilises your mood and emotions. So I think too much does affect your emotions as I had 4 instead of 2 injections ‘this month.

Thanks for your reply.

[Foggyme Administrator]

Ryaan. I'm so very sorry to hear of your loss and the problems you're now experiencing during the grieving process.

First, everybody experiences grief in a different way and it might be that what you're now experiencing is the 'numb-shock' stage of grief, where emotions feel frozen and everything seems to be detached or experienced 'from a distence'.

I know that when my father died I remained in the frozen and detached stage for many weeks....and then suddenly the flood gates opened and the wave of grief was almost unbearable. Have to say though that this is my personal experience of grief on that occasion - can't say for sure that it can be exactly extrapolated out to all who are experiencing grief. But if this does happen to you, please don't worry...go,with it and allow yourself to grieve...it will slowly ease, over time.

In addition, your B12 deficiency may be playing a part, since B12 deficiency can cause mood disturbances and a wide range of potential neuro-psychiatric symptoms.

Here's some information about that:

stichtingb12tekort.nl/weten...

I think it’s likely that the emotions you are feeling (or not feeling) are a combination of three things:

a) a natural stage of the grieving process

b) potential symptom as a consequence of B12 deficiency

c) vitamin D deficiency (which can cause low mood/depression)

I don't think that the 'blocking of emotions' or 'machine-like, persona you describe is due to your B12 injections (even given the extra ones) or the fact that you have been using two different brands of injectable B12, so please don't worry about that.

Some do experience reactive depression following bereavement so it might be a good idea to have a chat with your GP if your mood remains flat, doesn't improve, or gets worse.

I'm going to finish by sending you some hugs 'cause I expect you need them.

Take care

[Frodo]

Speaking personally, after an injection of B12 I feel more calm and balanced and able to deal with strong emotion, but I wouldn't describe it as 'blocked'. Without the B12 the emotions can be overpowering. And I have been experiencing bereavement and loss this past couple of years.

[Ryaan]

Sorry to hear, hope you feel better.

I feel like a pressure build up in my head and feels very heavy. The release of tears is a big relief at any time of sadness or grief.

[SusanLMckinney]

No, they are not anti depressants except that you may feel better as your body heals. I do not believe they kill emotions, but if you have been very very very sick as I was and crying all the time because my nervous system was a wreck, then getting better and comparing it to being all tore up may seem a big stretch, but I see no reason and have had no such experience with B12. I had no detectable B12 by the time a doctor discovered what my problem was and by then my whole nervous system was dying. You must be getting something else or ??

[SusanLMckinney in reply to SusanLMckinney]

When I said getting something else, I didn't mean another illness, I meant another prescription or something. I guess different people can react differently but I see no reason to feel depressed or have no emotions because of taking B12. People who say they have big highs and lows just before and after injections are full of it in my book. It is not a fast acting vitamin. It is stored in the liver and once the levels come up it allows the mylan sheath to come back and nerves to heal. also your blood will go back to normal and mature fully. Red cells can carry oxygen and iron. Strength, if you have had muscle loss due to low B12 can also take a while. Hang in there, but talk to your doctor.