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How the VieLight 810 helped my husband

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My husband's good results fromthe VieLight 810

I will preface this by saying that about one month before using the VieLight 810, he started on Seraquel, 25 mg. for psychosis. At that time, he was totally disoriented, wandering the house constantly,wearing diapers and couldn't sleep at all. It brought him out of that to the point he was no longer "crazy.". He was still in bad shape.

About a month later, January 7, 2018, he started using the VieLight 810 after I read about it in AARP magazine in an article on light therapy. It is a small , playing card sized devise that can hook on your pocket, or be hand held, and it has an attached devise that delivers ultra red light therapy through the nasal cavity. The premise is that there is a membrane at the top of the nose where the pulses can go through to the base of the brain and repairs brain damage of many sorts, Alzheimer's, Parkinson, stroke. You use it once a day for 25 minutes.

He was in such bad shape with moderate dementia, that it took him days to figure out how to turn it on at a little area you press on. I marked it with red fingernail polish so he could find it.

He is 78 years old and has had Parkinson's for around 7 years. He doesn't have bad tremors, but had significant insomnia, dementia and balance problems. He hallucinated horribly. (he saw hands coming out of the bedspread, teams of people playing baseball in our yard, ants all over the floor, etc.)

The theory is that the ultra red light nourishes the bottom of the brain and repairs damage. It releases serotonin to the brain.

They say it will start showing results in about 2 weeks and it did.

He couldn't be trusted to drive and now he can. He had horrible insomnia, and now he sleeps most nights and doesn't doze off all day. The hallucinations are gone. He doesn't need a diaper. He is walking much better; he uses a cane and hasn't fallen in a long time. (He is still getting wound care from when he fell while being psychotic and fighting off imaginary intruders, but it is healing well.)

He is playing chess with a friend and playing free on line poker.(this when he couldn't turn on the devise previously) He interacts with normal conversation.I can only tell you how wonderful the results are, as I thought he was close to needing hospice and/or going into a home. As a caregiver, my life was unrelentingly horrible!

He is using less Sinemet.

There is also a VieLight Gamma. That one also has a band that fits over the head and works more to help the immune system. Maybe it helps with tremors. It is $1600.

If one stops using the VieLight 810, supposedly, the bad symptoms come back in about in a month. This one (the 810, which is the frequency of light used) costs $499 and has a guarantee that if it doesn't work within 6 months they give you your money back, less 20 percent. They don't resell them, so they are taking a loss in that case.

You can go to VieLight.com where there is a lot of information and video.

I suggest you try it if your loved one, or you, yourself, has dementia.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to ask. I want others to be spared the awful life we were leading that can be, hopefully, helped with this devise.

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I want to point out something very important here. What rhyspeace12 is describing with her husband is VERY MUCH in line with lewy body dementia or PDD (Parkinson's disease dementia). To confirm this, I read through her previous comments about her husband and they match extremely well with PDD or LBD. In her husband's case, he has extreme impairment of his cholinergic neurons. These neurons are located right behind the nose and they branch out deeply, supplying the cortex with acetylcholine. The cortex is responsible for cognition and memory. When it is not supplied adequately with acetylcholine, you get dementia. In the case of PDD and LBD, there is SEVERE impairment of the cholinergic neurons. In PDD/LBD these neurons 'downregulate their phenotype' and they shrivel up and stop producing acetylcholine. As rhyspeace12 has found with her husband, if you tickle these neurons using the Vielight 810, these cholinergic neurons will rejuvenate, at least to a moderate extent, so long as you continue to use the device on a regular basis. That's why he's improved so much cognitively.

Why is this important? If you have LBD, PDD, or a flavor of Parkinson's that features significant cognitive impairment, then the Vielight 810 might be for you. Significant impairment/loss of the cholinergic system is also seen in Alzheimer's, so the device would likely be helpful with that as well.

What about this device for regular PD? Well, the nasal cavity allows that Vielight 810 to shine into the lower part of the front half of the brain. (The nasal cavity is unique in that it is pretty much the only area that allows direct access to the brain.) Even then, the light energy will only penetrate 1-2 cm into the brain tissue. These frontal circuits are involved in cognition, attention, memory, speech, etc. While boosting these circuits are of great benefit to someone with PDD or LBD, the results will be less dramatic for someone with PD. For example, the 810 shines into the nucleus basalis of meynert which is located right behind the nose. This is where most of the brain's cholinergic neurons are located. Boosting the cholinergic system will not typically improve Parkinson's movement symptoms very much. Now, that's not to say that someone with PD wouldn't see any improvement. Maybe it might help with non-motor symptoms a little bit.

I am a fair bit skeptical about the more expensive devices, the Vielight alpha and gamma models. These have energy emitters on top of the head that shine downwards though the skull, with hopes of penetrating more of the brain. The trouble with this is twofold. One, the skull is reasonably thick and also quite dense, so a fair portion of the energy won't make it through to the brain. Also, directly behind the skull there is a cushion of brain fluid, and this fluid would absorb a good bit of the energy as well. So this means that the idea of applying energy through the skull is not going to be nearly as effective. As of right now, I would not shell out $1400 or $1600 for the expensive Vielight alpha or gamma devices.

This is all still a very much experimental technology.

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laglag in reply to hopeful88

Great info. Did you see the post that yeramian just posted about some type of light? Is it similar?

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hopeful88 in reply to laglag

No that's different. Yeramian's post is talking about bright light therapy, which is essentially just a really bright light that you put in front of you for a few hours upon waking in the morning. It might help a little with fatigue and sleepiness, but probably not much more than that. More info on that can be found here:

parkinson.org/blog/whats-ho...

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park_bear in reply to hopeful88

I have what the neurologist referred to as "classic" Parkinson's. Tremor and some impact on my motor abilities such as foot dragging when walking. I have noticed that an anticholinergic made walking more difficult. With that in mind is it not reasonable to try this device in the hope that it might make walking easier?

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rhyspeace12 in reply to park_bear

My husband says it hasn't improved his walking, but I think it has. When he was psychotic, he was crawling. He uses a cane now and walks slowly.

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park_bear in reply to rhyspeace12

Well okay then. I have put one on order.

Does your husband use it in the nostril opposite his most affected side?

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rhyspeace12 in reply to park_bear

Yes, though i don't think he did that on purpose. He doesn't have much in the way of affected sides. His right hand tremors more than his right and he uses the nasal devise on the left side

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ConnieD in reply to park_bear

Park Bear did you notice any results from the vie light? Thanks, Connie

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park_bear in reply to ConnieD

I did not experience any improvement. Muscle ache in the nearby cheek arose shortly after I started using this device and resolved after I stopped using it.

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ConnieD in reply to park_bear

Thanks for the update! That’s too bad I was thinking maybe it would possibly prevent getting Alzheimer’s even if it didn’t have any noticeable immediate improvement

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Littlesky in reply to hopeful88

Thanks for the information. Given this, do you think the Vielight might restore sense of smell in PD?

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rhyspeace12 in reply to Littlesky

My husband says it has improved a little.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to hopeful88

Thank you for responding back and confirming that it does work for certain people. I get some,"Oh,yeah,sure! " looks when i talk about it. Sometimes I doubt myself just because it's shocking that such an easy thing could work so well.

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aspergerian13 in reply to hopeful88

Good post! Also consider the pedunculopontine nucleus, which provides cholinergic input to parts of the brain linked with balance and postural instability and falls.

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aspergerian in reply to aspergerian13

Here is a review setting forth two main categories of cholinergic neurons and traits associated with each category.

The Cholinergic System and Parkinson Disease.

Nicolaas I Bohnen, MD, et al, 2011.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

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windhorsepixy

Too bad they're not a sideline business of the pharmaceutical industry -has to come from them to get covered by insurance - no matter how well it works.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to windhorsepixy

The VieLight doesn't make money for anyone, so it doesn't get the word spread. It doesn't have sponsored trials. I told my husband's neurologist i was going to try it and he laughed AT me! We don't have another check up until early March. I am not going to mention it and I will see if he comments on seeing any difference. But, I doubt he will. He is not a pleasant man and I doubt he even recognizes us from visit to visit. He is who we have to put up with because of our insurance. When my husband had psychosis, the neuro mentioned a new drug that cost $2700 a month! I figure at $499 this is a deal!!

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Greenday in reply to rhyspeace12

$2700/month? what drug is that? No wonder why this industry is so profitable.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to Greenday

Nuplazid, the one you see advertised on television for hallucinations.

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Barney_Clyde in reply to rhyspeace12

May I have the name of the $ 2700 drug suggested by the neurologist.

Rhill@extenderproducts.ca

416 237 0148

Thank you

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Kwinholt in reply to rhyspeace12

I am so sorry that the dr you have because of your insurance is that unpleasant . It should not be that way for you. I am so fortunate for my neuro , he is the best and we have a very open communication about every symptom that progresses with me and he knows I won’t just pop another pill for each one .

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rhyspeace12 in reply to Kwinholt

There is a neurologist here that people love, unfortunately, he isn't ours. He mostly gives the proper treatment, but he doesn't care about how the patient feels. I've learned more here than I ever have from him.

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Kwinholt in reply to rhyspeace12

I’m so glad we all have each other to bounce things off of and get information . We all have a story but we all have similarities.

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windhorsepixy in reply to rhyspeace12

So I'm confused. Is this the maker ? vielight.com/about-us/

They appear to be a corporation - not a non-profit & it reads as though they are involved in clinical trials (but maybe not for PD ?) - anyway, just trying to get clear. I have no patience with doctors who laugh at ANYthing - they are not real scientists. (And how arrogant & condescending.) A REAL scientist knows that they don't know everything & that the most profound discoveries are often found where least expected. The world is not flat & just because an idea doesn't fit one's present parameters of reality doesn't mean it's not real/true. Ok - I'm off my soapbox for now. ;-)

Thanks for sharing the info !

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rhyspeace12 in reply to windhorsepixy

These seem to be the people who invented it and are marketing it. I understand they don't have the backing with money to do trials. It isn't a money maker like prescription medicine to make a big profit on. For whatever reason, i am so glad to have found about about it . It has mostly been used for Alzheimer's patients and tested on them.

From a simple, personal perspective, my husband and I were laughing today about what a fun time we had going to Costco as he drove a motorized cart around inspecting everything as i shopped, and then he drove us to In and Out Burger. We had a normal day, a day I never expected to have again, before he started using the VieLight 810.

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windhorsepixy in reply to rhyspeace12

What a blessing that it works for him & you found out about it to even know to try it. Our dearest friend has Alzheimer's - I'm going to forward the info to her family. All best wishes -

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rhyspeace12 in reply to windhorsepixy

That's what I am attempting to do, have others try it and find out if it works for them. It was my lucky day when my friend spotted the article on light therapy in AARP magazine and sent it along to me. If your friend tries it it, will you let me know if it start working for her? We need to be advocates! If it doesn't work we need to know that too, but if hers isn't too far advanced, I bet it will!

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Lwaj in reply to rhyspeace12

Hello rhyspeace12

I am so fortunate to find this website this morning. Your sharing and succint explanation by hopeful88 have edged me to purchase Vielightneuro gamma for my husband's alzheimer's. I only came across this device 2 wks ago. Disappointingly, Alzheimer’s Organisations are not aware. At the same time, I saw a trial recruiting Alzheimer’s participants for transcranial magnetic stimulation. The trial protocol on treatment durations are similar to current trials on the Vielight in US and Canada. Our acceptance for the transcranial magnetic stimulation is still pending. Treatment is only delivered at clinics unlike the Vielight. Effects can last for 8 months after the treatment and hence requires booster treatment follow ups. As time is of the essence for a faster recovery, your information and that of hopeful88 have convinced me to go ahead with the purchase.

Thank you, All for this opportnity to follow this community.

Warmest regards

Lwaj

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JAS9 in reply to rhyspeace12

Hi. After 3 years I was wondering if you would give an update?

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rhyspeace12 in reply to JAS9

My husband died in Feb. 2020 of SDIP ,Sudden death in Parkinsons. It is an actual condition.. He had developed psychosis and paranoia. He wasn't using his Vie Light often as he forgot how to turn it on. He had a kind of Parkinsons that affected his brain and not "the shakes."I still stand by saying while he was still cognitively whole that it helped him a great deal. I am on chemo for breast cancer and Ijust started using it at night to see if it helps me with brain fog and anything else uncomfortable due to the toxic chemicals I receive.

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JAS9 in reply to rhyspeace12

Thanks for responding. So sorry that you've suffered so much. You haven't asked for my advice, so I won't share my opinions too deeply. I do just want to offer this: red and near-infrared therapies are often used to synchronize our circadian rhythms, so using it night might confuse everything, possibly leading to poor sleep. Using it in the mornings when I first get up seems best for me.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to JAS9

Thanks for the information. It makes sense. I will try using it in the morning. I'm a night owl and lucky to get to bed by midnight.

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rhyspeace12

Nuplazid. I could probably have gotten it down to $700 a month through insurance.

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I once read that the drug you see on television for Hep C is $85,000 for the total time it needs to cure it.

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Tryguy

I tried the 810 a couple of years ago, and much to my chagrin (and now relief), there was no effect for me. That being said, I think the technology is interesting because in theory, it stimulates the mitochodrian electron transport chain. Ubiquinol did that for me too, so I thought it was worth a shot.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to Tryguy

You are lucky you don"t have dementia! I wish that was the case here.

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MWLE

My father has the same exact symptoms! Getting worst over the pass couple months. Thank you for sharing and will research.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to MWLE

I sure hope it helps you. I only found out about it through a friend who saw it mentioned in the

December,2017 AARP Magazine.

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I have ordered some choline supplement capsules to see if that gives him any additional help with adding acetylcholine.

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MWLE in reply to rhyspeace12

It just occurred to me after reading this and how donepeize worked. I am starting my dad on Alpha GPC right now. I gave him some before but for other reasons - headaches.

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rhyspeace12 in reply to MWLE

I just went and looked it up. I had never heard of it before. It sounds like another good thing to try. I got phosphatidyl serine for my husband in the past. He didn't stay on it long enough to see if it was helping, but I take it to feel calm and it has made a big difference over the last 3 years, or so.

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jeanette2372

Thank you so much for your great summary!

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rhyspeace12 in reply to jeanette2372

PS. My daughter is married to an Australian and I have visited your country many times. You all are so sensible!!

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I am so glad that people are finally listening to me! If anyone with dementia can be helped, I'd like to see them relieved and happy like I am. Even if it only lasts for a short time, we still have that time with our loved ones.

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Mariltn

For many months I went through the same thing with my husband, it is really hard to watch your loved one slip away that way he wasn't quite as bad with the hallucinations but it was bad enough he saw a little people running all over our house and the lack of sleep for both of us was unbelievable. I believe the hallucinations also become stronger with sleep deprivation. His neurologist started him on Quetiapine.25mg and hallucinations stopped thank goodness but he does suffer from difficulty speaking at times and confusion he has always exercised and is extremely lucky because he still can go to the gym and work out daily with the help of a friend. We are interested in trying this and appreciate very much you sharing this information.

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I sure hope it helps you. It is a miracle to me, and I also ordered some choline capsules on Amazon, figuring maybe it would deliver more actyelcholine to his brain. Quetapine 25 mg. once a day is also what my husband is taking (Seraquel) It has worked well for the psychosis.

I didn't realize that his hallucinations were so scary at times, he wasn't mentioning the monsters he was seeing.

Once he started the VieLight 810 he stopped requiring so much Sinemet. I think he is getting more natural dopamine from the ultra red light.

Order it directly from the VieLight site and you will get the 6 month money back guarantee.

I agree, just being able to get some sleep helped a lot. It is the confusion that I think the Vie Light has helped the most, in addition to the ability to sleep.

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janers

I am also using the Vielight and have found improvements in my tremor and balance. It's a relief to find improvement !

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hanifab23 in reply to janers

Please tell me which vielight you are using and how long

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janers in reply to hanifab23

I'm using the vielight neuro gamma with the headset. I don't know if the headset is really effective. It seems like just the nose insert is sufficient and is probably the most helpful. I've been using it a few months. It's a set timer for 20 minutes that I use each evening before bed. Best wishes!

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Lwaj in reply to janers

Hello janers, Do you have a rest from the treatment on one day a wk as recommended? I worry about overdosing my husband. Did that on the 5th day when he had 2 treatments of 20mins. His sleep talking and jerkings returned at the night. Delighted you are responding.

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janers in reply to Lwaj

Yes, I usually skip a day a week. I think One dose a day is the recommendation.

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Lwaj in reply to janers

Thanks, janers. Do you feel warm towards the end of the treatment? My husband felt uncomfortable tonight n I stopped it after 18 mins.

Thank you for your time.

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janers in reply to Lwaj

No, I don't have that problem. Has it cleared up?

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Lwaj in reply to janers

Hello Janer. He has embraced the device. Still early days with progress slowed down possibly due to positioning of the LED modules. Finally beginning of the 4th week, I think I have got it right with confirmation from the agent and our doctor, together with the website diagram.

How are you doing? So delighted and inspired by rhyspearce's results.

Have a great weekend.

God bless.

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rhyspeace12

That is wonderful! How long have you been using it?

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rhyspeace12 in reply to rhyspeace12

It is the VieLight810. He has been on it for about 3 months now. Be sure to use that 10 percent off a person here mentioned if you order it.

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Mariltn

I am wondering if anyone else in the last 15 to 18 days have tried this and had any success I have done a lot of investigating and I'm not finding a lot to support this I really want to try it but I'm need more information

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rhyspeace12

All the info i got was by typing in VieLIght.com and looking for the VieLight810 results (many articles an videos) and others devises using light therapy. I first got the information on light therapy helping in an article in AARP magazine. It was the December 2017 issue. The paragraph with the heading Alzheimers Disease. It is still working for my husband.

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PS. The most it would cost you is 20 percent of $500 if it doesn't help you within 6 months

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My husband came home today very happy. He had won all three of the chess games he played. At his worst,several months ago, he couldn't even remember how to play. Since acytelcholine is supposed to be delivered to his brain with the VieLIght, I decided to give him choline capsules too, starting about a week ago. Maybe it is helping. I am trying choline myself and it has really perked me up. So much so, I won't take it at bed time.

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Dee1980

Trying this on my dad now. But what I don't understand is, if this stimulates acytelcholine and he's on Kemadrin aka Procyclidine which is an anticholinergic and blocks receptors for acytelcholine, is the Kemadrin causing long term harm?

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It would make sense that it would deprive him of need choline, but i really don"t know. Hopeful88 gave me some really good information on why the VieLight 810 works; maybe he would know the answer to your question.

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If the cost of the Vielight 810 seems prohibitive, check out this prior discussion titled Red Light Therapy on this site. You can make your own red light therapy device and there is a Blog that gives you instructions for doing it. The blog is redlightsonthebrain.blog and is associated with research being done on Parkinson's in Tasmania. It has tremendous resource information as well as instructions and a forum where persons creating their own light devices share their questions and experience.

To view an online article about one person's results with the self-constructed light helmet, search on the words Max Burr Parkinson's in Google.

Unfortunately the Vielight devices' cost greatly limits the accessibility of these products. It's a shame that the company is a very much for profit venture. ARRP mentioned the Vielight in an article about newer treatments for Alzheimers and Vielight was giving a 10 percent discount at least a number of months ago if you mentioned that you learned about the product from the ARRP article.

I purchased the Vielight 810 for my dad who has Parkinson's and although I think his attention span and social interaction has improved a bit, the rest of my family hasn't recognized anything. I've just built the homemade light therapy device and we are going to give that a try.

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Farooqji

If someone cannot make his own, there are cheaper devices available from China via Aliexpress. These devices are as efficient as Vielight. The Vielight is over expensive and although I have purchased mine , I discourage others due to its extra high cost.

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hanifab23 in reply to Farooqji

what have you benefitted so far

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Jennyjenny2

Thank you so much for all your detailed information. I am ordering one today for my husband. I will keep you posted on his progress after using it for a month. Hope your husband's progress continues!

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Whether you are able to make your own or buy it, it works! I didn't see any offer to mention reading about it in AARP. I would have loved to have saved 10 percent. However, i don't resent any money i spent, because my husband can now deal in the real world. Any time spent trying to figure out how to make it with my inept fingers and brain, would have prolonged my misery as a caretaker, and wanting to jump out of an airplane.

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The AARP discount isn't advertised. You have to place the order over the phone and mention it at that time. I'm not sure if they are still doing it as the AARP article came out some time ago.

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The article was Dec. 2017. I ordered on line. But, that would be a good discount.

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hanifab23

you can get 10% discount with coupon on Parkinson Recovery.com

I ordered mine yesterday

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Thanks, i wish i had known that earlier. I didn't look into much, I was so anxious to get my hands on it..

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Farooqji

I suggest not to purchase it , as I have no benefit from it after 2 months of use. It's 10 times over expensive and unproven. I think the people who are reporting it's positive feedback is nothing more than the placebo effect. Better to consume this amount in other therapies , especially Ibogaine

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Since they will give you your money back if it doesn't work within 6 months, it can't hurt to try. It has definitely helped my husband. It helps those most who have Parkinson's dementia. If you don't have dementia, you may not notice any difference.

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Farooqji

They still don't return 20% which is double it's genuine worth. They sell the returned ones to other customers. I am saying this because the batteries of mine don't work; it seems used one

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It worked for my husband, that's the best i can say. I know it is expensive, but I would willingly pay more. Since Nuplazid, for the dementia in Alzheimer's and Parkinsons costs at least $700 a MONTH, using this devise to help repair his brain has been well worth it.

I've heard they don't resell the ones that are returned. I looked up a lot of information from many sources before i bought it. Did you read the info on why it works from another PD patient in response to my original post? I'm not selling anything, i just wanted others to have hope that perhaps it could work for them like it did for my husband.

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Lwaj

Hello rhyspeace12

Thank you for sharing as I am searching for more reviews on Vielight Neuro Gamma before purchasing one for my husband's Alzheimer's. Came across this device only 2 wks ago and missed only 2 articles in the newspaper. Not much publicity on overall transcranial photobiomodulation/ direct current/transmagnetic stimulation for Alzheimer's in Australia. The science behind these treatments show their effectiveness and indeed safe and beneficial. Some recovery will benefit both. The PD Communities in this forum are very knowledgeable about these latest innovations. Hence, I have tapped into your forums.

I have tried to find out what LED specs to use for the purchase to constructing one. What is the equivalent of 810nm at 40Htz etc

Is the Vielight easy to use? Given its portability n positive outcomes, we are planning to order it soon n indeed share the hopefully benefits with the Alzheimer's communities

Any more information will be appreciated. Thank you

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rhyspeace12

I don't know anything about about the LED specs. There is so much information everywhere that I found here, I will look at some that I have saved and try to send it here. My husband is still doing well as long as he uses it and takes his medication regularly I don't have the Gamma, I have the VieLight810. That is what they used in the short studies they did.They tested Alzheimers patients in the office/clinic for a few months. They saw good improvement. They sent the patient home and took them off of it for a month and the symptoms came back. The care givers were beside themselves, seeing all of the progress go away. Then they made this little devise that they could use at home and the patients got better again.

It is extremely easy to use. you hold or clip on a little devise similar to a cigarette package with a line attached that has an infa red devise on the end of it and goes inside one of the nostrils. You sit there for 25 minutes. It can be used twice day.

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youtube.com/watch?v=6GKz3-_...

Hopefully this comes up and you can watch it as well as other articles on the VieLight810.

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Farooqji

If someone has got a lot of money and want to throw it away , the best way is to purchas vielight

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It didn't work for you ,and that is unfortunate. But, it did work for my husband who has Parkinson's dementia ,and I'd pay 10 times more for it to have his mind back like the VeiLight810 accomplished. It clost less than a crown on a tooth ,which no one seems to mind paying, and you can get all but 20 percent back for trying it if you return it within 6 months.

A monthly dose of Nuplazid for Parkinson's psychosis costs at least $700 a MONTH with insurance, and this is cheaper by far than that.

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Lwaj

Hello rhyspeace12

My order today for the Vielight Neuro Gamma will be delivered this Friday! We will be seeing the GP for the cognitive assessment as a baseline. I am hopeful of this 'complementary' therapy for a faster recovery. Prayers work wonders, although trying at times! Thanks for being a great advocate. God bless you n yours!

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I sure hope it works for you! Why did you chose the Neuro Gamma instead of the VieLight810?I thought it was the 810 recommended for dementia? Everything else seems to be an up and down thing with his Parkinson's, medication frustrations and so forth. The VieLight 810 has been the one constant. His physical health leaves a lot to be desired, but having his brain back is wonderful.

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Lwaj

Hello rhyspeace12

I wrote to the founder of the Co and from the various interviews among medical practioners for more information. This device is more intense to reach the whole cortex n specifically focusing on Alzheimer's. I am indeed fortunate to come across this site of proactive sharers. Better now than latter! Lately, my husband's gait n posture were also affected. Tried physiotherapy n now wearing a posture support which helps him to increase our daily walks from 30mins to 45mins. The difficulties started 12 months ago from long distances of 2 hrs to current duration from last 8months. I believe we have to go through this difficult journey to help others! Enjoy now whilst we can!

Best wishes to all.

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My husband got a bad wound in his leg about 5 months ago.It has finally healed and he has started walking about a quarter mile and back this last week. His balance is now better and he has not needed his cane. Yay, walking!

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Lwaj

Wow! This is excellent news. Looking forward to my husband's recovery and will share his progress.

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rhyspeace12

I have forgotten to mention in all my conversations that the PD patient with dementia is not the one who notices the immediate improvement. The PD patient has Parkinson's dementia,brain damage. He does not recognize the slow improvements. It is the caretaker who does. That's why the Alzheimer's caretakers got so distraught during the trials and wanted to continue with the devise when it was taken away.

It was about two weeks in when i noticed the improvement. It has been great! But, my husband has no clue how much it has helped him, as the new reality is just what it is, normal to him. He doesn't realize how much he has improved.

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I have one more comment. First,I want to mention that Seraquel worked wonders in handling bad psychosis. If he goes off it ,he gets confused.

Here are the differences I see in my husband since he started using the VeiLight810 since January. He couldn't do any of these things before the VeiLight810.

1. He is driving again.

2. He is walking up and down our long driveway. He no longer needs his cane.

3. He is sitting in the sun, or in his bedroom reading novels.

4. He is interested in the news on television.

5. He is winning at chess

6. He is communicating and enjoying family gatherings.

7. He spends a lot of time with" Alexa" listening to Music.

8. He is mowing our fields with a lawn tractor.

9. His balance is a lot better and he has stopped falling down.

10. He can sleep at night.

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Remarkable!

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Lwaj

Hello rhyspeace12

I am very inspired by your husband's response, and those of the trials. Our Neuro Gamma arrived on Thurs 17th May evening and had to be charged for 6hrs before use. I had difficulty adjusting the headset and mistook the placement of the front module to be at the centre of the forehead - the frontal lobe. It should be 2cms above the hairline. Nevertheless, he slept well and less jerks. However, the next morning he was tired and lack concentration for his mental test with the GP. We will use this result as the baseline. Interesting to note, his appetite has improved. I am quietly pleased and evidence of his improvement will be best noticed by our friends! As recommended by the manufacturer, I will use the 6 days a wk regime at night. I was tempted to apply twice a day at leadt 6hrs apart for fastet benefits! Looking forward to share more benefits with the Alzheimer’s community on 29th May event.

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Do you know why one day a week it is recommended not to be used? My husband always uses it twice a day, at least 6 hours apart.

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Lwaj

The Neuro Gamma is more intense, pulsed @ 40Hz vs 10Hz for the Alpha. This upgrade application regime was recommended. From yesterday's one application at 8pm vs the first day of2 applications, the lucid moment started to decline by 6pm. Today, I have decided to change to 2 applications of 10mins 8hrs apart. Hopefully, this will be more effective.

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He actually got more lucid with the first day of use? I hope you keep a record of how it works for him each day. I wish i had done that. Before we started our journey,about 5 months ago , I thought he would have to go into care home because I just couldn't handle him . He uses the 810 twice a day at least 6 hours apart for 25 minutes.. It took about a week for him to figure out turning it on.I finally marked the spot with red nail polish. Now, as I say, he can play chess with friends, free on line poker and Suduko again.Sometimes he uses it extra if he feels he needs calming down. Since i don't think it will hurt him, i don't worry about it.

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I really appreciate your sharing. I am keeping a record of the progress. My observation to date for optimum performance, 2 applications a day @ 8hrs apart. Yesterday, I kept to the 20mins schedule for the 2nd application at 8pm whilst the 1st @ 12pm. At 2.30am he was restless for 30mins after getting up for the toilet. This has been the case for many months. There were no jerks or sleep talks untill 8am this morning. Looking forward to ongoing recovery! Have a great week.

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I so much want to vindicate my belief that it really works and I love hearing how it goes for you. Fingers crossed.

Are you in Australia? I think I mentioned that my daughter married an Australian that she fell in love with in Greece, on a trip she took after graduating from college.We spent a lot of time in the Melbourne, Yarraville area, before they moved over here.

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I am in Adelaide, S Aust. Where are you from? Like you, I can't wait to vindicate this device n the science evidence behind light therapy. My husband is a sensitive person, psychologically n physically. He can sense the mobile phone's silent mode calls 2 metres away! He just had his 10min. Trt and will time the 2nd after 8hrs. A minimum of 6hrs apart is often the recommended duration for most prescription. We will keep to this 2x/day plan for 12 wks as in the trial protocol for benchmarking! Hopefully, he has recovered many of the functions to use the device alternate days.

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I am in Templeton, California, it's half way between Los Angeles and San Franciso in wine country. We have a little vineyard on 1/3 of 22 acres, and I dread the thought of ever having to leave.

My husband is always questioning how much the VieLight actually does for him. When you mentioned the sleep talk, i said to him, "I'd forgotten how you were always talking in your sleep and muttering during the day." He agreed.

So many little changes that are better. Medicines are added and taken away, but the VieLight seems a constant. His neurologist laughed when I told him we were trying it 5 months ago He doesn't need to see him often anymore because he has improved so much, and i just don't mention it. It's very nice that you have a scientific support group.

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Congratulations! But the change in medicine could have contributed- it can take a month to reach maximum effect, right? What Has his dr. Concluded? Happy for you!

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My husband started noticeably improving around 2 weeks with the VeiLight. Since Alzheimers, and Parkinson's dementia is a lack of aceltylcholine (sp?) i also give him choline tablets twice a day, but i started that later after he got better with the VeiLight. . Luckily, he likes medications and supplements and will try anything.

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I just spotted your note in my hotmail. Our neurologist is not a friendly person so I didn't mention the VeiLight success. It's no fun to be put down by him. We usually dread seeing him. He gives us the proper medications but has no bedside manner. He will think that the anti-psychotic Seraquel is the reason my hubby is doing so much better, and it helped a lot, but I know it is the VieLight that has brought about the great changes once his psychotic brain healed. The VieLight helped a good deal with his sleep and restless legs.Sleeping made a big difference in his health.Not falling over all the time helps. I hear the VeiLight doesn't do a lot for tremors. The Gamma might help more with that than the 810.

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Try Following Dr Gary sharpe re : dopalights

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Hello rhyspeace12, It's now 12th day of the LED applications. Though early days yet, I have to share these positive results despite trialing out the application schedules n one day overdose of 2 applications of 20 mins in one day:

1) minimal tremors/body jerks and sleep talks

2) improved appetite, finishing the serves n small snacks in between meals

3) no more hand movements at naps n bed times. This is unbelievable.

4) stopped night wandering with his favourite torch to check for intruders. I teased him it's his security run! We now have good sleeps, despite a few bladder calls.

I am looking forward to more recovery to report. Thanks rhyspeace12 for your promising reports n sharing.

God bless us All.

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Simple results that mean so much! Thanks for keeping me posted!

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I was diagnosed 2 years ago at age 63. Symptoms were tremor in right leg, loss of handwriting ability, and soft voice. I also have difficulty rising from a seated position and have balance issues. I started out taking only Azilect, then Mirapex, and 6 months ago Sinemet. Several months ago I started falling frequently, hence the reason for Sinemet. I tried every shots available but nothing worked. In June 2018, my neurologist and I decided to go with natural treatment and was introduced to Natural Herbal Gardens natural organic Parkinson’s Herbal formula, i had a total decline of symptoms with this treatment, the Tremor, falling frequently, stiffness, body weakness, balance issues, depression and others has subsided. Visit Natural Herbal Gardens official website ww w. naturalherbalgardens. com. This treatment is a breakthrough for all suffering from Parkinson’s, don’t give up Hope. Keep Sharing the Awareness, herbs are truly gift from God.

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what was the name and address of the neurologist

I had a chat with them they replied as follows

The herbal formula is 100% natural herbs and MCC approved, a composition of Africa and Chinese herbs. The herbal formula is in liquid form, its taken 2 times daily (Morning/Evening) after meal with a tea spoon (1x each) for a time duration of 9 weeks.

9 weeks dosage cost 300 usd

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Q/A during chat at the website

Welcome to Natural Herbal Gardens LiveChat

Dr Joan

Support Agent

Dr Joan

7:08 pm

Hello, would you like to talk about our products?

iqbal

do you treat Parkinson

Dr Joan

Yes our herbal formula are natural organic herbs and %100 effective

What medication are you currently taken?

iqbal

selgiline

cucumber ashwagandha, bacopa, mucuna

Dr Joan

Any allergies?

iqbal

curcumin

no allergies

gingko biloba

gingseng

iboga

Dr Joan

The herbal formula is 100% natural herbs and MCC approved, a composition of Africa and Chinese herbs. The herbal formula is in liquid form, its taken 2 times daily (Morning/Evening) after meal with a tea spoon (1x each) for a time duration of 9 weeks.

iqbal

what type of benefits can I expect from it. how much is its price

9 weeks is the complete course or I have to continue it

Dr Joan

You will need 2 bottles of our herbal product. The herbal medicine cost $300.00 for the 2 bottles. We shall commence with the shipment immediately you make the purchase, you will receive the herbal medicine within 4 days. A tracking number will be issued to you to enable you track the herbs till its delivered.We ship your product immediately after purchase, shipping is free and we ship worldwide

We offer a 30 days money back guarantee on this product, meaning you can claim a refund if you do not experience any significant improvement within the first 4 weeks of usage

iqbal

After how many days of treatment it starts to subside the symptoms

Dr Joan

4 weeks

iqbal

what are it's main ingredients and has there been any research work available

Dr Joan

The herbs are made from natural roots and we have had %100 success rate treating patients with this disease

iqbal

how can I claim money back guarantee if it doesn't work

Dr Joan

You won’t need back the money guarantee process as the product is %100 going to work

iqbal

can you provide me the reference of those who have benefited from it. I want to have verification with them

Read

Dr Joan

Visit the testimonials page on our site for patients reviews

iqbal

Approximately how many patients have used this medicine

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my assessment

100% fraud

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rhyspeace12 in reply to Farooqji

Seems like a fraud when they claim it can be 100 percent effective.

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And they never did tell you whats in it.

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Farooqji in reply to bassofspades

yes, they were not telling the ingredients. Only told that it consisted of Chinese and African herbs

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My husband is still using it with good results. I have started using it myself since it is here and can't hurt me. My husband had testing done and learned this last week that he does not have Parkinson's dementia and he does not have Lewy body dementia.In fact, his recall is slow due to how the Parkinson's slows everything, but his intelligence is still there. He is simply keeping his brain toned up and during one period where he had some other problems and stopped using it for about a week, his brain functions seemed worse.

He won an online chess game against his friend/opponent 2 days ago who is a much better player than him, because he had time to study the moves.

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I'm talking about the Vielight above, not the herbal supplement. Everything about the herbal supplement claims screams, "Watch out!"

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rhyspeace12

I get comments here, but can't find them when I go to look to answer. My husband is still getting benefit from the VieLight. He had extensive tests done by a neuro psychologist and he does not have dementia. His sense of smell came back, we couldn't figure out why, and now realize it is probably due to the Vie Light. It had been gone for about 7 years.

He has had a lot of problems from a hernia, which made his stomach hurt all the time, which in turn caused panic attacks. He's had an operation on it 2 days ago, and I will continue to see how he progresses.

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LAJ12345

Hi rhyspeace12. Are you still recommending this device? Which type does he use? There seems to be several. Thanks

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rhyspeace12

My husband died but used the devise to the end. I really feel it worked for him. He had the VieLight810. The company who developed it went out of their way to help me several times after the warranty was up, once when he threw it away accidentally. It is expensive but you really can try it for 6 months and send it back, less 20 percent. Only buy it from the people who developed it for the warranty to work. He passed the written part of the test to get his drivers license 2 weeks before he died, and missed one less than I did. .

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