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TL DR version: any pressure or movement on my groin area shoots pain down into my feet and outer thighs. An erection causes extreme pain. The only position where there the pain is bearable is when I lie flat on my back on a very soft bed with my feet stretched out in front of me. Any other position ie standing, sitting, lying on my side is not possible for longer periods of time. As a result of all this, I have to lie in bed for most of the day, for about 20 to 22 hours.

- Standing or walking hurts a lot.

- Sitting hurts less, but depends entirely on the chair. If it’s a soft ergonomic chair I can sit for hours sometimes without too much pain. A hard chair is sometimes unbearable, as is a low chair or a stool.

- When I have an erection my feet hurt a lot. This along with squatting is the worst trauma to my feet . I usually wake up during sleep, even if I only have a semi erection during the night. This can be up to 3 to 4 times a night and at worst sometimes even 6 or more.

- Having sex is the most painful of all four of these things, so I keep it to an absolute minimum, about once a week . If I don't have sex I usually have erections during the night anyway, and sometimes that can be worse, ie if I wake up to 4-7 times a night.

- Squatting or bending over is something I have rarely done for 8 or 9 years now. As soon as I squat or stand and reach down (ie to touch my toes) the pain shooting into my feet and legs is absolutely unbearable.

-Going to the toilet and straining to defecate. Urinating is not a problem at all, but if I have to strain, for example when I'm constipated (even mildly) this can also change my the pain in my feet from being bearable to being absolutely painful in less than a minute.

-Lying on a hard surface. I can only lie in the softest mattress where my whole groin area sinks into the bed and has little or no resistance. Lying on a hard surface (like my wifes mattress) is usually unbearable for anything more than 5 or 10 minutes. The pain in my feet and legs just gets too intense.

HOW IT HAPPENED

One afternoon in August 2010 I had come home from a run and called my wife. We had phone sex but I was lying on a very hard surface, slightly softer than linoleum, and was quite uncomfortable. I had a lot of work to do that night and was in a bit of a hurry, otherwise I would have gotten comfortable. Because the surface was so hard. I put a pillow under my bottom, so my whole body was arched. During masturbation (on a downstroke, I must have pushed my penis down too hard) the pain just erupted, and shot down into my legs and feet.

When I stood up my thigh and foot hurt. It was like a buzzing sensation, like pins and needles but with no numbness. I didn't think too much of it at the time. I thought I had pulled a muscle or cut off the blood supply temporarily, like when you cross your legs. I’d been injured a few times while doing MMA a few years before that so I was used to strained muscles, pulled ligaments and sprained ankles and assumed that the pain would subside within a week or two.

The next day I couldn’t go for a jog because every time my foot hit the ground it hurt too much to keep going. At that time I thought there was just something wrong with my foot. Over the next few weeks the pain got worse and worse. I went from going for a jog everyday, to not going for a jog at all and eventually not even a walk anymore. Within three or four months, I cut back my working hours because my feet just couldn't take it anymore. Within half a year of the incident, by the end of 2010, I'd stopped working all together. In February of 2011, I was lying in bed all day long apart from going to the toilet, shower and getting something to eat. Since then it has only gotten worse. It has now gotten to the point where the pain is constant.

When the pain is bad. I cant lie on my side at all. And I have not slept on my stomach now for 8 years or 9 years.

I have gone from a working person with reasonably good health and a

reasonably good job and a reasonably happy life to a person who’s just hit 40 and who has spent the past 10 years lying in bed flat on his back, not being able to lie on my side, not being able to lie on my stomach, not being able to curl up in a comfortable position. Let alone being able to freely work, jog, have sex whenever I want or even masturbate. I can do all these things, but they cause extreme, debilitating pain.

THE NATURE OF THE PAIN

My feet constantly feel cold. I wear socks in summer because of this. When the pain is very moderate, it's a very slight tingling sensation. When the pain is worse, this becomes a buzzing sensation which also feels like burning. When severe, this also becomes a stabbing sensation and at the absolute worst, it's like my whole foot is being crushed. There is only pain, I do not have any numbness in my feet or loss of feeling or strength (apart from the lack of strength resulting from lack of exercise). However, the only thing that neurologist seem to test for is numbness.

Both of my feet and the front of my thighs (esp the outer side) hurt. There are two areas which are painful: the sides of my foot (ie the outer blade) hurt the most, and so do the top of my feet. There is little to no pain on the soles of my feet, nor is there any pain above my ankles in my calves. The other place is the outer part of my thighs. There's no pain on the back of my legs, on my inner thighs or on my calves.

Both feet hurt, but the left one the left foot is significantly more sensitive than the right one. If I can lie on my side, it is usually on my right side.

The best comparison to describe the recovery from the pain would be a sprained ankle. The actual spraining is painful. But walking afterwards is painful with every step and requires recuperation without further trauma. For me, during the trauma itself the pain is just as bad as the recovery. It usually takes about 3 to 4 days to recover from such trauma, ie sex or going for a very short walk. This is why I lie in bed most of the time. If the pain was only present during the trauma, I could deal with the short term pain. The recovery period which usually takes 3-4 days in bed virtually all the time save for going to the toilet, showering and eating. But if I have an erection or multiple erections during the night this can take even longer, up to a week or longer if I am unlucky.

The pain has gotten so much worse since it started. I used to go on short walks with 1-2 day recovery periods in bed. Now just walking around the house (to eat, shower etc) hurts too much.

ABOUT ME AND PREVIOUS MEDICAL TREATMENT

I have always been reasonably healthy during my life. Even though I've now spent 9 years in bed. I'm still not overweight. I look pretty pale/out of shape, but most people would after being mainly indoors for almost a decade. But on the whole I am still healthy. I have never had mental problems and love(d) going on a nice walk or jog once a day.

I am motivated. I constantly occupy my time doing useful things or what I can consider to be useful things. But I am completely wasting my life, and I'm in pain constantly and it’s getting worse.

I need help desperately. I am willing to give or pay. All of my money, which is about 20K to anyone that can help me or put me on the right path.

I have seen doctors and specialists, but I have got nowhere because they do the same two or three tests as the previous specialist and then send me home. They see me walking. They see me sitting. They see

me talking quite normally, and they think or insinuate “well it cant be all that bad, some of my other patients have it really bad” or something along those lines.

Before any appointment, I cause as little trauma as possible for about a week. Ie no sex, no going for a walk. That way the amount of pain is bearable for me to go and see the doctor. When my feet really hurt, ie the day after a walk, an appointment, sex I can't even imagine standing or sitting for anything longer than a few minutes at a time let alone spending hours in a car/waiting room.

And that's how it's been for 9 years. I see a specialist doctor or a neurologist. They look at my previous MRIs/X-Rays etc. Either they send me to do the same scans again or they look at the result of the scan, and they say well there's no problem here and they send me off. I live in Europe so healthcare is free, but not very good unless it is a common issue. I have tried all kinds of medication: Lyrica, Gabapentin, all kinds of SSRI’s and apart from making me feel tired have had very little to no effect.

I have come to the end of my rope. I simply don’t know what to do anymore. I have seen neurologists and as described above. They see me walking in they see me walking out. They test for “numbness” with a scrape test. There has never been any numbness whatsoever, and I always make sure to tell them there is zero loss of feeling, only pain. But they've do the numbness test, look at past MRI’s and they send me home my feet buzzing/burning in pain and having wasted yet another few hundred Euro and another few weeks of my time.

I have reached the end of my rope and simply cannot live like this anymore. My wife has stood beside me this entire time and she deserves better as well. My life is simply not worth living this way. I am not a depressed kind of person and amazingly enough through all of this I still do not have what would clinically be defined as depression. That doesn’t mean I am in a happy person, but I am more pissed off and angry then I am depressed. In fact through my whole life. I have never had been depressed.

So in short I am suicidal at this point in time. Not because I want to die but because I can’t bear the pain anymore. I simply cannot live like this anymore and nothing is being done to rectify it. The pain has gotten so much worse as well that I just can’ take anymore.

If someone could send this to someone else. They know who who might be able to help me. I would also be extremely appreciative. I still have so much to offer. I am still young (relatively!). I still have a lot of motivation. I still have a loving wife. And I really really don’t want to die, but I simply see no other way out. Lying in bed for nine years, in constant pain is something I never ever thought would happen to me in my wildest dreams / nightmares.

If anyone can help, or point me in the right direction, or share this with someone who can help, I will not only be forever grateful, I will be happy to reward that person financially. I have dealt with a lot of other people’s money in my life and have always been fully honest in my dealings.

Also if someone can tell me other appropriate boards on which I can post this I would be very appreciative. Thank you for reading.

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AndrewT profile image
AndrewT

Dearest sammythecat,

I have just read your 'Post'....First of all, and without being- in ANY way condescending- You Poor Man! Secondly- This IS the Twenty First Century, for God's Sake, No-one should Suffer like this! Just sleeping on your Side, or Getting an Erection causes you such Pain, and No-one will Help you? No Wonder you feel Suicidal, 'Lesser' people would have Jumped Of A Bridge years ago- I'm NOT suggesting you do this, you understand. You say that you live in 'Europe', but NOT which part- it's a BIG place/ area, with Very Different 'Health Care' provision, or so I believe. Is there not a 'Chief Executive', or maybe, Medical Review Board you can approach? Personally, and I could be completely wrong here, I Suspect that you SERVIRLY hurt yourself- all those years ago, without realising it. If Someone does Listen, to you, and run a 'Serious' series of tests then Maybe...Just Maybe a Cause might be Found.

As regards 'Giving Away' your Money, this shows how Desperate you really are and, more importantly, Just How Badly you have been treated- or NOT Treated! I know, with ABSOLUTE certainty that IF, any of, DID know a us Cure we would NOT charge you a Penny for it! I, absolutely Promise, to give this more thought sammythecat and 'Get Back' to you. Just a thought, for now....Have you shown this 'Post', to your Doctors/ Consultants? It might be worth a 'Try'.

Sending you ALL our LOVE, I know Everyone Agrees here.

AndrewT

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Billyboy2u in reply toAndrewT

Know how you feel ….

I've not had sex for 4 years now, so have an absolute gem of a partner.

We have tried all ways and it ends after a few strokes I get suicidal pain in my lower back, and have to stop. The following few days, or it can last up to 5 days, I'm bed ridden and can't move. So know how you feel

My back trouble started 30 years ago following an accident at work and has gradually got worse over the years, I'm now in my 60's, and feel really bad. Not for me, but for my partner, although she has Fibro and is in pain herself, she deserves a medal the size of a frying pan for putting up with me.

I've had to stop work now so there's no help for me now, although my lower 5 discs/joints are turning to dust now any how.

Hope at least your situation improves......

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sammythecat in reply toAndrewT

I think I should shorten it first. But they aren't interested, they try to give me some ssri's and when I said I tried many types and none work, they shut off all further discussion. In this country neurologists are known for being elitist snobs who simply don't care about anything but their paycheck. Thanks for your reply!

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Itsallinthehips

Maybe we could all put out money together on this site and find a wonder cure for our chronic pain we could get quite a bit together lol

I’m sorry you going through so much I wish we all had a magic wand to at least make it a little better 😔

Do the capital's annoy you in some way?

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bantam12 in reply to

In Internet code/netiquette the use of capitals is seen as yelling/shouting and in forums is generally not acceptable.

in reply tobantam12

Shouting lol

They are only letters, get over it! Lol

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AndrewT

Dear Scrumbler,

first of all 'sorry' for all the Capitals, yes I do sometime use too many. I often do this, for emphasis, that may not actually be needed. I'm definitely not, trying to 'shout', and am genuinely sorry, if I have caused any offence. I was, I'll admit, genuinely appalled by the treatment given to 'sammythecat', so maybe I was a little 'angry' in my approach.

I hope that this has set the 'record' straight.

AndrewT

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abellemed

If you lived in the UK the wonderful NHS would sort you out. Firstly you'd go to your local GP, they would refer you to perhaps an orthopaedic/MSK practitioner, who might after assessment either refer you to a neurologist or an orthopaedic surgeon. MRI scans would have been ordered and after (rather long I'm afraid, but hey - others might be worse, and it's free) - that you would be either offered nerve blocks or sent off to the Pain Clinic, where expert advice and counselling would be given.

Wherever you are, you sound as if you haven't bothered much to explore your local health service - unless I've got it wrong and you have defied all medical knowledge to date!

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sammythecat in reply toabellemed

No, they simply don't care. 3 mins in and they are looking at their watch. It' shocking.

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abellemed in reply tosammythecat

Do you live in UK? If so, persevere with your local GP, don't accept the first appointment with any of them, choose another one within the practice and reiterate your Pain concerns (not your mental health issues - that's for another time). Be objective and accurate in giving your pain history, tell them you need to get to the cause of it and encourage them to refer you to a musculoskeletal clinic. Do not confuse your physical pain with any otheremotional issues, they can only deal with one symptom at a time and have limited resources to deal with just your physical pain, so try again - or get registered with an another GP practice near you.

I agree. This is way too much information. But I do not believe gabapentin is really effective by itself. I use it with a variety of other meds and am on highest dose.

I had to forget about some activities in life because I am in pain. I garden a bit, then have to stop and lie down. Etc. Half my life is working propped up in bed. And my life will never be the same as it once was. I've had to accept that and find peace in many other ways. But I do take serious pain meds and they would possibly not go well with the sex you want. So, make decisions and then find a pain clinic.

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Doghouse6463

Moral of this story don't beat the meat

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Hanna62

Hello sammythecat. I started reading your post last night, finished in the morning and I am very touched by your story because is so similar to mine and I can understand your desperation. I used to be a carer for elderly people and worked for council. I didn't have car so I worked on the push bike. It was maybe 11 years ago in February when we had very harsh winter and everything stopped because of ice and snow but I was sent to work. It was obvious that I would have end up having accident and I had. I managed to visit first customer and on the way to second one my bike slipped and because my breaks were frozen I hit the kerb and landed on the pavement with broken shoulder - first victim of weather in hospital. They put my shoulder in the sling and I came back home. Didn't work for 5 months, I was in pain and depressed. But my consultant discharged me and I came back to work. I had maybe 2 appointments with him, each lasted 5 minutes and ignored information that I was still in pain. So I went for my holiday in my country and did X-rays. They were shocked that this consultant discharged me with broken tendon and damaged muscles. I showed him these results and he said reluctantly - if you want operation I can do it for you. So, after one year after accident I had arthroscopic. Still was in pain and kept taking 16 Tramadols a day because I wanted to work. In the meantime they prescribed me Gabapentin, low dose. In the council they found out that I was taking too many painkillers and straight away I was sent home. Later they kicked me off because of health issues. I was working in the supermarket and during this time I developed sciatica which I had 4 times followed by another shoulder operation and X-rays afterwards showed advanced arthritis. Pain was getting bigger and bigger but consultant didn't referred me to do MRI after surgery so I swapped him to another one. This time I had osteonecrosis, bone was dead and I had total shoulder replacement 2 years ago. Probably you guessed already that it wasn't successful and still I am in pain. Besides I had back pain so GP referred me to MRI and it showed that I had bulging L4/L5 because of wear and tear - I was 61. So I was diagnosed with spinal stenosis and 3 years ago had laminectomy and discectomy, not very successful. I was on Tramadol and Morphine, still on Gabapentin but high dose - 300ml x 3 times a day. The problem was that I didn't have enough Morphine to help me with pain, I was taking 80 ml for quite a long time so I needed more because after back surgery I developed epidural fibrosis - scarry tissue irritating sciatica nerve causing big pain. I had appointment with pain consultant but he refused to change painkillers and he didn't give me more morphine. The same was with neurologist - she based on nerve test in 2016, said that everything is OK with my nerves and she didn't give me referral to do next one. I asked my GP to do it and he changed Morphine for Fentanyl patches but it didn't work, even the highest dose and I found out why. The MRI showed that my spine and nerves are severely damaged. At the moment I'm again on Morphine and I take 900 ml in two weeks. They were talking about spina fusion but now they have different idea - injections. Injections don't work with me, I tried them already. Anyway, I'm on waiting list to see new surgeon who does fusions. I'm off the Gabapentin which is real poison, last year bought mobility scooter, recently wheelchair because I can hardly walk and have balance issues. I didn't know why but now I know - I had severe sleep apnea which is the result of allergy to mould. So one more condition to my collection. I never be bored..

Now I'm sure you want to know how I cope with pain. The difference between us is that I have numbness in my legs and hands. Man times I was thinking about suicide just to get rid of this excruciating pain. But I change completely my world view. And it was because my interest in spiritual life. I joined evangelical community. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a religious person, I didn't believed in God, had rational approach to life and was sceptic about God. But I've changed my mind and actually I even enjoy my disabled life. Everything I learned I learned from books and watching TBN program for Christians. You can try, you have nothing to loose but maybe a lot to gain. Just one day go to channel 65 and choose program 700, you will find testimonials how people were healed by God. Probably a lot of people will tell you that I'm talking rubbish but I don't care - it's going to work with me, I just don't know when because God has his own time and so far testing my patience. So this is my advice - stand your ground with doctors, be stubborn because many times they are wrong but try to find as much information about your health as possible. Internet is very good. And try TBN - it costs you nothing, keep your money for pleasant things in your life - I spent fortune on my crafting stuff. And...

God bless you

I will pray for you, prayer is powerful and you can ask people to pray for you. 😇

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abellemed in reply toHanna62

But has all this mumbo-jumbo quasi-religious claptrap cured your musculoskeletal pain? I think not. You've just learned to become a religious convert and an invalid for the rest of your life. Get real.

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Hanna62 in reply toabellemed

Not yet, its not my time yet. But I enjoy my life, I don't have now suicidal thoughts, live every day to the full. Before I was very sceptical but since I trust God I feel happy many times like never before. But it takes courage to trust God, not everyone has it and it is a pity because it would be less desperate people thinking even about suicide. I know what I'm talking about because I was the same and many times very close to do it. You have right to have your opinion but to be honest I don't care. Probably you didn't do an effort to check this channel I was talking about but for you my post is mambo -jumbo. I wrote to summythecat and his reply counts but he can do whatever he wants to do. Some more mumbo -

jumbo for you - God bless.

P. S. Have you watched news about soldier who committed suicide because he didn't get any help with his mental problems. NHS won't sort you out..

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abellemed in reply toHanna62

I've never had "suicidal thoughts", I'm a very sane person who has never had any "mental" issues - which you obviously have. I don't post religious fervour on any site as I don't have any religion. I manage very well without religion and abide by very humanistic rules, ie "do as you would be done by and be done by as you did" etc. I accept everyone's so-called beliefs but don't myself adopt them as pragmatically I feel a lack of "belief" in anything makes me free to be able to to pursue clinical/scientifically proven reasoning. I am a medical professional and find evidence-based clinical learning has given vast improvements in human medicine over the last century, ie Lister, Curie etc etc....

Let's face it, you are a very naive newcomer to the world of facts. You should follow the BBC every day, the Today programme would be a start, then you maybe could learn that News is not facebook/instagram stuff and enter the real world, not sensationalist videos about traumatised soldiers and funny cats.

in reply toHanna62

Leave your god stuff off here please.

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Hanna62 in reply to

I haven't done anything wrong, why you are so unkind? It seems to me that you have problems in your life and try to blame others. The easiest way is to be unkind to person whom you even don't know. Not mentioned manners.

God bless

in reply toHanna62

Some people who use these forums have had bad experiences with religions.

Plus you assume that people believe in the same god as you, keep you religious beliefs to yourself.

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Hanna62 in reply to

I have the same right to have my opinion and religious beliefs as you. This is free country and I am not going to remove my post. Why you are so angry? Because you don't like immigrants? Don't worry, Im not going to continue this conversation because you understand nothing. But all the best in future.

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abellemed in reply toHanna62

You show your "poor me, vulnerability shoulder" in that post. He Never Said you had done anything wrong, nor what he put was "unkind" - what's the matter with you?

Your reply to jimmyjimmy signposts you as highly insecure, claiming to be a victim and being self-righteous. You need therapy - and English grammar lessions.

Good manners in England always respect the other person's anonymity, so don't start quoting "unkind" posts from another person who, of course, doesn't know you, nor indeed you know him/her.

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sammythecat

Thanks for all the replies, and encouragement!

abellemed profile image
abellemed

Please don't read/listen to all the "God" posts on here. They are mainly posted by people who have mental issues and have been swayed by proselytisers of some kinds of "faith".

They never say their condition has been cured.

Far be it from me, a person without any mental issues, to decry their solace in "beliefs" , but I feel that you need to pursue the actual physical causes of your pain - through the proper channels available in your country. Please persevere, as I did, to get the proper MRI scans and a diagnosis of exactly what is causing your pain and then pursue the options your consultant spine surgeon/specialist can offer.

My best wishes to you

Eileen

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Mohammed1985

Have you had an Mri scan done with stronger magnet

The average machine is 1.5 tesla

You can get 3.0 tesla

and 5.0 tesla with these type of scan they will be able to see your nerves deeply I think it may be a Nerva issue

I can sympathise

As I have have got pudendal neuralgia which has almost take 13 years to sort of diagnose and I used to get the same story I looked well so they assumed I'm well my pain is severe in testicles and pelvic area I take tramadol morphine paracetamol

Amrytitiptiline

Pregabalin all these just for the pains it gets difficult as I am 15 hours a day in bed not as bad as you but I can sort of relate

Praying for your health pal

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waylay

You sound a lot like my ex-partner. He had prostatitis (infection in the prostate), which wasn't diagnosed for months. It damaged nerves around the prostate, and he gets similar probs to you when erect.

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