Pain in shoulder/collar bone whe eating

[doodoolatrice]

For months leading up to my diagnosis I developed a pain in my shoulder whenever I ate. I'm just curious to know if this was linked to my tumour (it had attached itself to my bowel). The pain was still there but not as bad after my surgery but has now gone altogether.

[Hidden]

I think it is called a "referred pain", when I had a gallstone I had a "referred pain", but I can't remember in which shoulder (whether it was right or left) but I know they called it a "referred pain" and it depends on which shoulder you had the pain, it would indicate something was wrong in some other part of the body. so my guess is that your pain was a significant sign of a problem and probably was a link...(odd I know) each side means something different.

love x G x

[doodoolatrice]

Oh I see, that's interesting Gwyn, thanks. Hopefully it stays gone, otherwise I shall just start worrying again. x

[Hidden in reply to doodoolatrice]

Ooooh I hope so too, I had no intention of worrying you although if you do get it, it could mean a gallstone which isn't serious, when I had a gallstone the consultant asked me if I had a pain in my shoulder, (which I didn't at that point) but a few weeks later I did, and it wouldn't go away.... it only went away after I got rid of the gallstone so know it is a symptom of a gallstone. Love x G x

[Whippit]

I think an osteopath may well be able to explain how referred pain works and how a problem in one part of the body is transferred down the nerves. Let's hope the pain has gone for good now Doodoolatrice.

xx Annie

[Hidden in reply to Whippit]

Hi Annie,

In this case it has very little to do with an osteopath, and could even confuse the issue. (see link below) a very good explanation of "refurred pain" love x G x

[Whippit in reply to Hidden]

Well we can agree to disagree. I've just looked up anatomynotes.blogspot.co.uk...

Osteopaths aren't just manipulators of bones. They deal with nerve channels and many cranial osteopaths are highly trained in pain and pain management. My osteopath, for instance, said he could cause me a sharp pain in my left hip by pressing on a specific area of my neck. I dared him to do it .... and was taught a painful lesson!!!!

xxxx

[Hidden in reply to Whippit]

I wasn't suggesting that an osteopath is not qualified, merely saying that there are different forms of referred pains, pressure points being just one. and as I have had a referred pain in my shoulder due to gallstones... it wasn't a pressure point that was the cause.

but like you say we can agree to disagree love x G x

Thank you for posting up the link though.. as you know I can't post and paste xx

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There is a very good explanation of this on :-

Anatomy Notes: Referred Pain.

anatomynotes.blogspot.co.uk

Hope this helps love x G x

[wendydee]

Hi Doodoolatrice!

I had referred pain in my shoulder too, before and just after my diagnosis and op. I think it's to do with the pathways used in traditional medicines like acupuncture.

Hope it stays away though!

Love Wendy xx

[drdu]

Hi.

Am retired GP. The same nerve supplies diaphragm and shoulder, and so if diaphragm irritated on one side, can affect shoulder on same side, like sometimes with gallstones, which are near diaphragm. I would think your diaphragm would have been distended when you ate, if you had some general bloating/excess wind in your abdomen as is common in OC etc. Eating generates wind, and shifting around of wind too, so would think that is reason. Nothing to worry about.

Yes, it is linked to tumour, and wind caused by tumour,as is shown by its going away after surgery. Which shoulder was it? Not that it really matters - could be either.

Best wishes.

Eileen xx

[drdu]

Further to the above, yes, it is referred pain. Very common, like in gallstones, as Gwyn says.

E xx

[doodoolatrice]

Thanks Annie, Gwyn and Eileen. The pain was in my left shoulder and the tumour was on my left ovary. I noticed when the pain got really bad that if I burped it seemed to ease. The pain started a year before I went to the Dr for what I thought was a prolapse and which turned out to be a tumour. I can't believe I buried my head in the sand for so long.

Love Kerry (aka doodoolatrice) xx

[Hidden in reply to doodoolatrice]

Hi Kerry,

We are all guilty of doing that, (burying our head) by the time I was diagnosed my ovary was the size of a very large melon, I could not believe that I had been walking around and not realising, I asked what size should it be and the consultant said a pecan nut oops! Love and best wishes x G x

[drdu in reply to doodoolatrice]

Hi Kerry.

Yes, getting rid of wind from the stomach by burping would ease it a bit.

All best wishes.

Eileen xx

[doodoolatrice]

Sorry Wendy didn't mean to ignore you lol. Thanks to you as well, Kerry xx