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Getting the most from Low Carb (LCHF)

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This is partly a response to the conversation between Lerwick1 and IndigoBlue61 (which I was unable to reply to in the Daily Diary thread), but mostly it's just a heads-up for those of you dipping your toes into the low-carb waters - and there seems to be more and more of you lately!

Meals need fat in them

One of the biggest psychological roadblocks on your route to weight loss is the idea that dietary fat is the root of all evil. There are two parts to the low-carb equation: the LC bit means what it says, but the HF (high fat) part is much misunderstood, and much maligned by those whose careers depend on keeping the paying punters trapped in a cycle of dieting and despair.

Fat doesn't make you fat, and it doesn't cause heart disease - at least not in the simplistic sense that dietitians talk about it. It's true that a diet of old-fashioned processed junk - which tends to have a lot of grease in it - is not good for you. However, it turns out that modern processed junk - which is full of fat substitutes - is still not good for you. Whoever would have thunk it? The basic reason is that a junk-food diet is full of refined carbs, sugar, and chemicals, and it's those that are the main cause of the problems.

You might also want to ponder on this conundrum: if fat is so terribly bad for you, why does your body choose to build its energy storage reserves mostly from palmitic acid (a saturated fatty acid)? It seems a bit unlikely, does it not, that Nature would have come up with such a wrongheaded solution?

So you don't need to be afraid of fat; and this is important, because when you delete the carbs from your diet, you need to keep your body fuelled up. Otherwise, you're just running on fumes. The alternative fuel is fat (not protein - humans are not good at using protein for fuel).

Unfortunately, after five decades of hectoring from the powers-that-be, us Brits have mostly forgotten how to use fat in our meals. We've become accustomed to fat-free stodge. So switching to LCHF is not just a matter of keeping the same familiar meals with the carbs removed (or trimmed down), because there would be literally nothing left. It involves a complete re-think of the way you cook and eat. You'll find that your meals have a lot more vegetables in them, they're a lot tastier, and they're filling. You don't need everything swimming in grease; you simply need to start using fattier cuts of meat (and learning to cook them!), and you need to use butter, minimally-processed oils, and naturally-fatty foods (eg., cheese) the way our ancestors used them. I can recommend carbdodging.com for some starter recipes - examples will be easier to follow than me rambling about it.

You don't need to eat less

Again, reams of nonsense have been written on the general theme of "eat less and exercise more". This doesn't work. If it did, humanity would have died out millennia ago. The reality is that when there's a food shortage (self-imposed or otherwise), your body adapts to it by retaining fat for as long as it possibly can, in order to keep you alive. True, you might see some transient weight loss for the first week or two of a "diet", but when your body's self-preservation instincts kick in, it will stop.

LCHF works by taking away your body's reason to store fat. Give it enough calories (in the form of dietary fat) and it'll discard those stored energy reserves.

You don't need to stay "keto"

Although some people swear by it, I've never seen any evidence of long-term benefits (except for people with T2 diabetes). The aim of 'keto' is to force your body to perform a rapid recalibration away from its dependence on carbs. For most people, carb cravings completely evaporate within a couple of weeks, and they can then let their carb intake rise naturally to a sensible level; 50-100g/day allows you to eat pretty much anything as long as you stay away from the big five: sugar, rice, bread, potatoes, and pasta. You'll carry on losing weight.

You might reasonably ask: can't I just go straight into the 50-100g range? If you're just moderately overweight and your don't regularly eat sweets and cakes, the answer is "maybe". Some people do it successfully. If, however, you struggle with "bingeing", you are seriously overweight, you get hungry between meals, or have been doing a low-fat diet for many years, the answer is "probably not". Going keto (<25g carbs/day) for two weeks is the painless way to get the results you want.

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Thanks for that concise summary, TAT.

Do you want to say a word or two about "portion control", in this context?

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TheAwfulToadVisitor in reply to BridgeGirl

I guess the only thing to add there is that your body will control its portions all by itself, when you dump the carbs. It can be quite hard for some people to re-learn what an adult portion actually looks like, having absorbed the propaganda about hamster-sized servings. But one of the most liberating things about LCHF is that you can trust your body to get things right.

Even if you overindulge today, you'll find that your appetite is miraculously dialled down tomorrow. Your body's internal machinery is a lot smarter than the experts give it credit for.

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PandQsMaintainer3st 7lbs in reply to TheAwfulToad

I found exactly that today - after yesterday’s socially distanced street party where I admit to sausage rolls and a slice of cake, this morning half way through a brunch of egg and bacon, I’d just had enough. That switch to off never used to happen and and I would finish what was in front of me because it was there .

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Leeleepuss

Thank you Toad, that's really interesting and clarified a couple of points for me.

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IndigoBlue61

Thank you, very helpful 👍

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Yes a nice refresher Toadie :) thank you. It was my birthday last week so I decided to make myself a birthday cake. It is delicious! It is evil though, having been made with white flour and sugar but I allow myself a small slice a day - haven't dared get on the scales this last week though. Has anyone got a 'miracle' cake that is made of coconut or almond flour? I meant to use Stevia leaf instead of sugar but forgot and what substitute is there for icing sugar when making butter cream icing? I could have used cream but that wouldn't have lasted so long?

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TheAwfulToadVisitor in reply to ChubbieChops

Happy birthday not-so-chubbiechops! Did you see the recent post about not stressing over the occasional treat? It's true. Life's too short; enjoy the birthday cake, and in any case I doubt the scales will even register a blip.

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ChubbieChopsVisitor in reply to TheAwfulToad

Many thanks - I didn't see that post but will look for it. The trouble with occasional treats is that for me, they become more frequent than occasional. :( And I do like baking! So tonight I put the remaining brownies in the food recycling. I need to rein myself back in again and break the habit of reaching for something in the cake tin every day

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Subtle_badger in reply to ChubbieChops

ChubbieChops! how are you?

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ChubbieChopsVisitor in reply to Subtle_badger

hiya - I'm fine thanks. Trust you and yours are keeping well. We have been so busy!!! Most of my time is spent in the garden as the weather has been so amazing. We moved into a new house/garden last summer so the whole garden needs a lot of work - a lot of hard work as it is heavy clay. We were able to order plants from our local garden centre which they delivered during the lockdown and now that the garden centre is open, we venture out there to stock up. It's really well organised with the social distancing so happy to go there. And we've started going for long walks now - just a shame that the pubs are closed. Missing cuddles with the family of course.

How are you getting on? xx

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Subtle_badger in reply to ChubbieChops

Argh! Somehow I missed this response. Thanks for the update.

I'm doing fine, not as productive as you, but going OK.

I'm also reaching then end of my weightloss journey, so will have to find a new self improvement project. Fortunately there are plenty to choose from. 🙄

The pubs around here are stealthily opening: selling draft beer in 2 litre plastic bottles, which people are taking down to the river and social distancing...the whole suburb feels like a huge beer garden. 😂

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FattySquirrel7lbs

Hi TheAwfulToad, yes I’m still here! I’ve been having problems with blurry eyes even with my new glasses and hence not really been on the forum. I just read the post titles and that’s it.

I am type 2 diabetic now, and as I just could not move the weight or stick to keto I asked to go on medication in Feb 2020. It’s temporary until I can lose weight and stay lchf so my blood sugars are under control.

I do Pilates 5 days and exercise bike or treadmill 5 days but only 20 mins each but on 6out of 16 resistance on bike and

8 out of 12 incline on treadmill.

I can’t lose weight.

I keep giving up as I just get tired.

I keep going off fish and chicken.

I did well on Lchf before I realised a problem with pre diabetes creeping into diabetes.

I started adding fat and actually felt full. But still no weight loss as I have to keep everything in a calorie count (being diabetic) in order to lose the weight and this is the vicious circle I’m literally going around in!

Please help me with any tips and advice.

I could eat so much veg in curries but long for chapatti!!! I made a 30g almond flour one yesterday with my spinach and courgette curry, delicious but it was tiny! If Chappati was Any heavier then I would exceed my fat allowance - so result—- I felt like I was still starving.

Oh and I keep going off eggs!!

in reply to FattySquirrel

Dr David Unwin. Google him & he will rescue you. Xxx

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Subtle_badger in reply to FattySquirrel

So you are keeping your carbs low, you have a "fat allowance" and you are going off fish, chicken and eggs? No wonder you are starving!

You have a choice: follow the diet your doctor is prescribing, with a fat allowance and carbs allowed, or go low carb and ignore the fat allowance. You can't be low carb and low fat at the same time; you have to eat something.

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FattySquirrel7lbs in reply to Subtle_badger

Thanks Subtle-badger. I know, you are absolutely right. But I really am stuck.

Subtle_badger profile image
Subtle_badger in reply to FattySquirrel

Take Hidden 's advice. Look at David Unwin. He's inspiring. Maybe start here.

youtu.be/TEYtRiPKBVA

edit: swapped to a different video

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TheAwfulToadVisitor in reply to FattySquirrel

Hi @FattySquirrel! Glad you're still around, but it's a pity things have taken a turn for the worse. Anyway, Subtle_badger is right. You can either listen to the doctor (who, it seems to me, has sent you down the path to full-blown diabetes; well done, doctor, nice result). Or you can do LCHF. There is no middle ground. The low-fat calorie-controlled diet is diametrically opposed to all LCHF principles, and in fact completely opposed to all known medical science.

LCHF has no calorie target and no fat target. In fact it doesn't have any targets at all other than "eat until you're full" and "drop as many carbs as possible".

Because you are now T2D you will probably struggle more than most with carb cravings, but they will recede if you can stick to a "keto" regime for a few days. As I recall, you were struggling last time with family telling you "oh, go on, one [serving of rice, chapati, etc] won't hurt". You need to sort that one out, if you haven't already. But you also need to expand your horizons a bit and adapt to different sorts of meals; ones that, by their nature, don't involve rice or bread. A curry that expects bread just isn't the same without it, so I'm not surprised you find it unfulfilling.

Try experimenting with the cuisine of different countries, or with recipes that are designed to be eaten without rice. Personally, I could make a meal out of kebabs (meat + veg) with lots of raita and salad. There are ways and means, but you need to seek them out.

Oh .. and David Unwin. He's a star.

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Portlandprincess

Hi TAT. Loving your posts. I'm nearly at the end of week 3. Loving the food. I know my appetite is changing. I just have to trust myself. That's perhaps the hardest part. Oh, and I want the scales to show me different numbers! Must be patient.

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