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[RoyceNewton]

What is TN?

[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador]

It might be a few things, Royce

For example, it could stand for

TN ~ Tennessee

TN ~ Trigeminal Neuralgia

depends on the context.

Why do you ask?

[RoyceNewton in reply to carolek572]

a lady on here mentioned it and I was not sure, I thought Trigeminal Neuralgia was TMJ, I do not knw why, far to many ac ronyms in this disease

[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador in reply to RoyceNewton]

I wasn't sure, Royce. I do have TMJ but not TN. TN sounds like it might be TMJ but on steroids. No pun intend, Royce. Keep Smiling

[RoyceNewton in reply to carolek572]

sounds like they are the same thing to me, I think it bears some more research

[rjoneslaw in reply to carolek572]

Trigeminal Neuralgia I had to google what it was

Shanna13 posted the question Trigeminal Neuralgia and MS overlap?

[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador in reply to rjoneslaw]

I googled it as well, rjoneslaw I don't know if TN and MS overlap. I am curious if anyone in this forum knows though...

[rjoneslaw in reply to carolek572]

I recall someone saying they had similar pains but they didn't call it TN.

I could be wrong

[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador in reply to rjoneslaw]

The most recent post that I remember mentioned TMJ. Perhaps that was what you remember, rjoneslaw

[RoyceNewton in reply to carolek572]

No this young lass said TN, I know what TMJ is. my friend and yours Trigeminal Nuralgia

[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador in reply to RoyceNewton]

I know that you know, Royce, what TN is and what TMJ is, but I can see how the two are sometimes interchangeable when talking about them. That being said, I didn't know what TN was until I joined this forum, and I didn't even relate TN with TMJ. So much for my first sentence in this reply. I am curious about how TN might be a warning sign for 'ms'. I will do some research about that. What are your thoughts about TN being a warning sign for 'ms', Royce? Keep Smiling

[rjoneslaw in reply to carolek572]

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[carolek572 CommunityAmbassador in reply to rjoneslaw]

You're adorable, rjoneslaw

[Morllyn]

The abbreviation for Tennessee.😂

[RoyceNewton in reply to Morllyn]

no, that is not what I was thinking but yes it is

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Royce do you mind if I ask where you live

[Sibrina]

Hi! I got this short explanation from Mayo Clinic: " Trigeminal neuralgia can occur as a result of aging, or it can be related to multiple sclerosis or a similar disorder that damages the myelin sheath protecting certain nerves. Trigeminal neuralgia can also be caused by a tumor compressing the trigeminal nerve."

I have an acquaintance that has been dealing with it for a few years and it's apparently very painful. I don't think anyone knows how to ease or stop it yet. My friend has m.s. too. I think it's another symptom some have from the damage.

Like we need any more possible symptoms!

[RoyceNewton in reply to Sibrina]

Tell your friend to look for a "Cyberknife" facility there is one in Arizona. Phoenix or Scottsdale. I believe they have others. If they find one and they are unsure tell them to contact the Arizona facility they have operated on my 3x so far and I hgigly recommend it.

[Sibrina in reply to RoyceNewton]

Will do! Thanks so much!

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Hi Royce, I am "bikeguy", my father had trigeminal neuralgia, and that is the only instance of any neurological condition anywhere in my extended family, until I was diagnosed with relapsing remitting MS in 2008, so don't know if there is a relationship but seems likely.

[Goldilockssearching]

I too looked up trigeminal neuralgia. I have been dx w TMJ and my PT, acupuncturist & former chiropractor have treated for it. Upon description, it sounds kinda the same. I get a stabbing or shooting pain in my right jaw. Intensity and frequency change. The treatment helps ease it but it doesn’t go away 100%. My trigeminal nerve is obviously being irritated so in that sense I guess they are the same or at least similar. I also clench & grind my teeth so dentist says that will add to it. Maybe I technically have TN not TMJ 🤷‍♀️ Doesn’t really matter though, does it?

[Tulip77 in reply to Goldilockssearching]

It would matter for me. My insurance does not cover any treatment of TMJ which I was diagnosed with many years ago. I clench and grind so much at night that I have broken several teeth. I have to buy a mouth guard every few years at $400.00 a pop. Right now I need 3 new crowns and am just waiting on the final dollar amount so I can figure out how to pay for it all.

My jaw muscles are tight all the time. I am on a muscle relaxer, but it only helps at night when I take it. I can’t work while under the influence of the MR. it’s all very frustrating. I think my issue is truly TMJ.

I’ve had “zaps” to my face, so maybe I have both. I don’t know.

[Goldilockssearching in reply to Tulip77]

Sorry to hear your insurance doesn’t cover it. Will the dentist work with you on payment?

Can you see a PT who does hands on work? Mine actually works on the jaw muscles fascia. It noticeably loosens them-still get the pain but at least jaw works better!

I actually have a dentist appt tomorrow for a cracked tooth (he said that’s where we are starting 😳) Dentist continually recommends a mouth guard but I can’t deal w it. I can be quite tactile at times 😂

[Tulip77 in reply to Goldilockssearching]

The mouth guard is uncomfortable the first night or two but after that it is no problem.

I had so much dental work as a kid that the mouth guard doesn’t faze me. PLUS I have sleep apnea. I have to sleep with the guard and a CPAP 🤦🏻‍♀️

[hairbrain4 in reply to Tulip77]

I also have to wear a guard and a cpap mask. Fun..NOT!

[Humbrd]

Years ago before I was diagnosed, the right side of my face and chin went numb. I went to the ER. Was not a stroke. Now every time I get a flare up or get very stressed it happens. No one ever said it's TN. I don't know if it's the same. It's a very uncomfortable feeling. Do others feel this?

[RoyceNewton in reply to Humbrd]

Yes, ask your doc about Trigeminal Neuralgia TMJ

[sashaming1]

I've read that TMJ can be responsible for Tinnitus (ringing in the ears). FYI.

[RoyceNewton in reply to sashaming1]

No can not say I ever experienced that, but you never know

[Sandydemop]

If it was on here, probably Trigeminal Neuralgia