add black pepper to improve absoption tumeric

[erash]

I know some are using tumeric for anti-inflammatoriy properties.

I attended a nutrition webinar yesterday and the nutritionist recommended adding black pepper wth the tumeric to improve tumeric absorption.

Can add to smoothies, stews, soups etc.

[Good_enough]

My mother , who has arthritis , told me this also. Thanks .

Now I need to figure out what I like tumeric with . Rice seems likely , or Asian , Indian foods. I made a dip once and really screwed it up because I put too much tumeric in it.

I see that it's the new Kale, ha ha. It's even becoming more available as fresh in the US groceries .

[Fancy1959]

Erash, you're just full of amazing tips. Thank you so much. I love black pepper so that won't be a problem to add it to more dishes I already do. We use the time that you grind whole peppers with and it's very rich in flavor. See you learning something every day but sharing stories with different people in the chat room. It's a great tool gang everybody needs to read the post, and it's amazing what you might learn! Fancy1959.

[Raingrrl]

Hi @erash!

I love black pepper and use it as a seasoning but don't really like the taste of tumeric. Do you think if I take a tumeric capsule with a meal seasoned by black pepper it would work the same?

[erash in reply to Raingrrl]

I would think so as its all going to be digested together Raingrrl

[greaterexp]

As always, you are brimful of information! Could I hire you to be my personal nurse?!

[erash in reply to greaterexp]

Thanks! greaterexp happy to do it gratis. Makes me feel useful. Besides my disability insurance likely won't allow 🙁

[tnolan2006]

Hi everybody, please know that I wish the best for everyone of us here. I was trained and work as a drug chemist, so apologies for this screed. I'm not a fan of sketchy treatments, especially for MS.

While I love curries, the purported health effects of curcumin found in turmeric are not supported by studies. It is active in most drug discovery assays and is known as a "PAIN" or pan-assay interference compound. Here's a post I saw yesterday from med chemist, Derek Lowe, that summarizes the turmeric situation: (from blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeli...

"So what do you get when you look closely at the molecule and its activities? Well, for one thing, curcumin’s stability and pharmacokinetics are absolutely terrible. It’s less than 1% bioavailable, and its half-life under physiological conditions is measured in minutes. This makes a person wonder how it can be such a wonder drug. The authors of the current paper, indeed, state that “To our knowledge, (it) has never been shown to be conclusively effective in a randomized, placebo-controlled clinical trial for any indication“. How about as a lead compound, a hit from an assay? The situation is just as bad. The paper cites a long list of references demonstrating that curcumin participates in pretty much every undesirable behavior possible in an assay: it reacts with proteins, it’s a redox cycler, it coordinates metal ions, it aggregates, it disrupts membranes nonspecifically, it interferes with fluorescent readouts, and it decomposes. Other than that, it’s a perfectly good hit."

Less than 1% bioavailable means it doesn't get from the gut into your bloodstream. Black pepper won't help that. Such a short half-life means it doesn't stick around long enough to do anything even if it was orally bioavailable. Its activity in drug screening assays comes from artifacts. Don't waste your hopes on turmeric.

Don't waste your money either. Type in curcumin into Google and you'll find some nice people willing to sell you some supplements at the top of the results.

[erash in reply to tnolan2006]

tnolan2006 thank you! I totally appreciate the scientific evidence in making decisions @ my health.

There are many touting the benefits of curcumin/turmeric. Often, cited for its uses and benefits in Far East cultures and because it's a dietary staple. But I'm only aware of correlative evidence.

I think when traditional medicine fails us, we grasp at alternative solutions.

Perhaps there's a placebo effect 😉 Good thing I like spicy stuff and since I have plenty in my cupboard, I will, perhaps to the Bain of my hubby, continue to cook with it 😊

[tnolan2006 in reply to erash]

We have a bunch of Indian and Thai restaurants here in SoCal, so lots of inspiration out there. The vegetarian options, like lentils, chickpeas, root veggies are some of my favorites. Curry tacos, using naan or tortillas are a good use of cultural appropriation in our house.

The interesting thing about the placebo effect is that it's real. People respond to placebo, especially in psych indications, but also in relapse rate.

[erash in reply to tnolan2006]

tnolan2006 ...and research shows placebo works even better when the health provider believes in the effects too (double placebo effect?)

The SoCal cuisine sounds amazing! We have some quasi ethnic restaurants here but Florida still specializes in fried chicken 🙁

Best taco I ever had was at a farmers market La Brea tar pits area L.A.

I'm flying over for supper 😝

[jimeka in reply to tnolan2006]

Hi tnolan2006 I hope you don't mind me asking, but what are your views on biotin? Thanks Jimeka

[erash in reply to jimeka]

Great ? jimeka

I know the research is still ongoing.

[Ebrod]

Thank you for the tip with blk pepper. I have started to make my own turmeric tea: turmeric powder, bit of raw grated ginger and now a bit of black pepper. Thank you, will give it a roll!