When breath becomes air : This is the... - My MSAA Community

My MSAA Community

9,440 members21,224 posts

When breath becomes air

erash profile image
15 Replies

This is the title of the New York Times bestseller book. It's about a neurosurgeon resident who develops lung cancer and his experience as he's surviving. Eventually he did not make it. last night we attended a presentation from his wife who wrote the epilogue to his book.

I've been struggling with how to help my mother cope with her health issues. Positiveness, rationalism and empathy are not working. I know all too well how easy it is to become self absorbed in your own suffering. And sometimes we deserve time to wallow. But staying there does not help her or anyone else.

Lucy K. ( last night speaker) gave some helpful suggestions but I'm going to try today: asking what she fears most and asking her for a list of things the she needs and then determining how I can help.

Great book to consider.

Written by
erash profile image
erash
To view profiles and participate in discussions please or .
15 Replies
Jesmcd2 profile image
Jesmcd2CommunityAmbassador

erash let me know how that works for you. Something l might consider with my mom.

Jes ♡

erash profile image
erash in reply toJesmcd2

Unfortunately, she continued in such a self-pity mood today, I didn't try anything 😥

Jesmcd2 profile image
Jesmcd2CommunityAmbassador in reply toerash

I'm sorry erash l dont know what to tell you. Hopefully today will be better?

I asked my brothers how they dealt with it, both said they don't live in town, 1 said he doesn't answer because he's super busy. My other just tells her to stop it. And they both said it was my job to deal with it -_- ♡ l hate them both . ♡

So good luck today!

erash profile image
erash in reply toJesmcd2

Jesmcd2 it usually does fall on the daughters shoulders. My brothers care but don't seem to feel the responsibility to fix.

I've decided, I can't fix. I will at least be there and listen.

I did ask her and my father to make a "needs list" but she replied, "we are ok" of course in the next breath she complained that my father, while doing his best, doesn't clean the way she used to and there are specks of dirt on the floor.

Ha ha! I've always joked that I did well in the Army because of my mothers white glove tests when I did chores 😜

Jesmcd2 profile image
Jesmcd2CommunityAmbassador in reply toerash

Lol l blame my mom for my OCD ugh! Except she keeps EVERYTHING. Til l get on her to throw things away. Me? I was married to the Navy, l dont like " stuff " to much to pack :D

You know what l mean erash !?!

My mom asked if l would come over and clean for her. I told her straight up, if you love me, you will never ask me that again lolol l refuse. The stress would put me in the hospital. ugh

Gotta love our moms ♡

jimeka profile image
jimeka

Certainly something to look out for. Thanks Erash, blessings Jimeka

Fancy1959 profile image
Fancy1959

Erash, it's Fancy1959 responding to your post. Erash, the book does indeed sound powerful and deep. I, too, dealt with my aging mother and tried to help her cope with her journey toward the end of her life. My dad, Joe, had passed 8 years before my mom and all she talked about was going to see Joe again.. It was as if no matter what we said or did she could only focus on seeing dad once again.

It was extremely difficult if not impossible to use rational and caring to make her see her life was worth continuing. She had had shingles 2 years earlier and they were so intense she never recovered from the nerve pain. It seems she wanted nothing but to go find Joe. With that in mind myself and three other siblings did our best to ease mom's passed to the end of her days. There was no talking to her or using rationale to figure out a way to help her. All we could do in the end was support her by bringing in groceries and clean the house, etc.

Sometimes no matter how much we want to be involved with our parents end of life decisions and keep them with us we must realize there comes a time when they decide they have lived a long and prosperous life and they are simply tired.

The steps that Lucy K. Inspired you to take with your mom are indeed insightful. They are not only helping your mother but they are also helping you take a positive role in her health care. By making a list of what she needs from you and asking her what she is afraid of you are meeting her physical needs and her spiritual needs at the same time. Please let me know how they work. What kind of response your mother has to them. And the total overall outcome of following Lucy K. advise.

erash profile image
erash in reply toFancy1959

Thank you Fancy1959

Wise words.

It's true. People want to remain independent. My sibs and I have suggested they either move to our areas or consider a community living situation.

I hold my breath when my 84 yr old father, Joe, stubbornly climbs a ladder to change an AC filter 🙁

jimeka profile image
jimeka

My mum always used to tell me that children are only lent to us and that they bring their own love with them. I think as time goes on and we get older we have to realise that our parents are only lent to us so we have to make the most of them while we have them. Whenever my children and grandchildren excel at something the first person I want to tell is my mum, so I look up at heaven and tell both my mum and dad, it makes me feel better, so enjoy while you can, blessings Jimeka

erash profile image
erash in reply tojimeka

jimeka that is so beautiful. Makes me teary eyed.

jimeka profile image
jimeka in reply toerash

The book arrived x

erash profile image
erash in reply tojimeka

I hope you enjoy (not sure that's the appropriate word)

shortyPPMS profile image
shortyPPMS

This is a reply I made to someone suggesting a solution to depression. If you have not experienced it you do not understand it so you need to be very careful with advice. It can be a very serious and debilitating mental illness. Good luck with it.

Reply

Steve Johns says:

November 1, 2016 at 8:03 PM

I would add that there is a wide spectrum of severity in depression and there is no ‘one size fits all’ solution. For some it can be relatively easy to adjust their thinking and that is all that is needed. I have been “counselling” a friend who’'s thinking and actions were consistent with depression. He was very resistant to seeking help or medication. Finally I said “Mate, as I'’ve said before, the drugs can help and everyone wants to help you but there’'s only one person who can sort this out, you. You’'ve got a lovely family but everyone’s got a braking point. Don’t leave it until you come home to an empty house and a note on the table.” He snapped out of it. He was at the minor end of the spectrum. I have been depressed and suicidal for over 40 years and on medication for 20. It ended up costing me my marriage, my dream job and my farm. I am further along the scale. There is no way that someone with my level of severity or worse can just snap out of it. I have finally been able to learn how to apply the methodology of CBT, combined with medication, to manage it. It is a daily, and sometimes difficult, mental exercise. Some are not that lucky. You must always be careful to stress that your solutions are what works for you or you may well be adding low self esteem to someone else’s problem.

Reply

LeannEHl profile image
LeannEHl

I read "When breath becomes air" shortly after I lost my mom to lung cancer. I don't know why I was compelled to read this book, but I'm awfully glad I did!

When Mom was diagnosed with small cell lung cancer, it had already metastasized to several other spots. She had smoked, as a young adult, but quit once my kids were born, and my eldest was noted as having poor lung function. She was smoke free for twenty years when she was diagnosed, but your body isn't inclined to forget what you did as a young person.

In Dr Kalanathi's case, he had never smoked, and no explanation was ever given in his book as to why he might have suffered this malady. It's hard to imagine fate being this random, but no other explanation was apparent. Unsatisfying, but sadly, something that we often confront in our 'doesn't fit the mould' disease called MS.

Juliew19673 profile image
Juliew19673

With my Mom who had a stroke during surgery that wiped out her short term memory and we all had to step in (my Brother and Sis who lived nearby) and help her manage. Then she started having Dementia problems. She was very frustrated. Had her tested and those results showed she had Alzheimer. She called me and was so excited! She was happy to finally have a diagnosis. She needed someone who would just listen to her and not someone who would tell her what she should be doing (my role).

Not what you're looking for?

You may also like...

WHEN LIFE DECIDES TO POOP ON YOU...

My husband had his second total knee replacement 4 weeks ago. The surgery was very successful, but...
Sukie427 profile image

Say a prayer 🙏🏼

I know that we don’t usually ask for this but I have an old friend from high school, her mom who is...
ssdw1958 profile image

Good news

Hi everybody in my ms family. Hope all are doing well. I just had to tell everybody that God’s...
Doubled51 profile image

Little laughter 🤪😝

Another week ahead and colder weather is here. Had rain in the valley and snow ❄️ on the hills...
Kenu profile image

when family hurt us

i try not to talk about my symptoms unless they're visible so i don't freak them out when some new...

Moderation team

See all
johnMSAA profile image
johnMSAAPartner

Content on HealthUnlocked does not replace the relationship between you and doctors or other healthcare professionals nor the advice you receive from them.

Never delay seeking advice or dialling emergency services because of something that you have read on HealthUnlocked.