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NGS Panel - Multiple Mutations/ Does Order Matter?

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Going over my medical records just realized that the MPN specialist ordered a full NGS panel when he did the BMB - I had thought we had just determined the Jak2 allele burden. Turns out that my Jak2 allele burden is 40% - which is high for ET - everything I have been able to find indicates that the average allele burden (Jak2) for ET from a BMB is about 22-26%. At the same time, I have have a mutation at TET2 - only 4% allele burden. My MPN specialist said it was borderline to even report the TET2 number as the local lab has a 2% cut-off for significance.

I asked my specialist what might it mean that my Jak2 allele burden is higher than normal for ET (and closer to the PMF/MF level) and that I also have the TET2 mutation (albeit at a very low burden level). He said in general, fewer mutations better (obviously would not even want Jak2) and lower burden better, but beyond that the science is still out. He did indicate that there are a number of recent studies on level of allele burden in the various MPNs and do they portend to clinical manifestations of MPNs; possible progression and can the allele levels be used as a tertiary diagnostic tool (especially trying to differentiate at diagnosis between ET and prefibrotic MF).

He said the best news about MPNs being re-classified as cancers was that the amount of research and research dollars has exploded over the past few years. He is confident that we will start to see additional therapies and more individualization in the coming years (as we already have started seeing). He also said that if all MPN patients were offered full NGS panels as part of the diagnostic intake, that we would likely find many had more than one mutation. The primary rationale now for not being standard of care is cost and applicability (which is somewhat a circular argument as we don't have enough data on the significance of a lot of the data we would collect from broad application of NGS panels so we don't know if they are really necessary - of course if we had more data perhaps we could draw more definitive conclusions which might impact standard of care...)

After speaking with him, I did come across some interesting studies on level of allele burden as well as sequencing of mutations (does it matter if you acquire the Jak2 mutation or the TET2 mutation first - spoiler alert - it apparently does for clinical manifestation and potentially treatment.

Here are some of the studies:

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi...

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl...

We plan to re-do the NGS panel a year after we get to a stable (hopefully we are there at 90mcg every 2-3 weeks) dose of Peg to see if Peg has been able to not only control my CBC numbers (hematological response - so far it has been effective) but also had an impact at the molecular level (to reduce the allele burden)....

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I have been pondering and researching this same question for a bit now. I see my MPN Dr. this week and I have been working on my list of questions for him. I have Jak2, 9% and Askl1, 32%, they believe this is my driver mutation. Askl1 is a "poor prognosis" mutation and a bit rare with a diagnosis of ET. My Askl1 came first or so they think.I have spent the last 8 months doing monthly blood test, taking 1 Hydroxy pill daily and just living my normal life and not focussing on my diagnosis. I don't want to dwell on it and my family and friends rarely mention my "blood cancer". i have no major symptoms or side effects(except hair loss). I feel lucky but that Askl1 mutation always brings questions and not many answers.

Frustrating not knowing what my mutations will bring me but then I guess that is just life, on occasion I wish I had a cancer that could be cut out or treated or one that I could talk to friends about. This forum has been a great discovery, so many thanks to all of you who contribute.

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Solyesh in reply tolakeview65

Thank you - the uncertainty can de trying at times..I guess it is true about almost every disease but I am always amazed at how individual all of our situations are - the good news is that the additional research and forums like this one help us share experiences and knowledge.Do you knwo why your team think the Askl1 came first?

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lakeview65 in reply toSolyesh

They believe Askl1 came first because of the higher allele.

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EPguy

Great report links. They say TET2 first is lower risk

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<< JAK2-first patients are much more likely to develop PV and have a significantly increased risk of a thrombotic event>>

But Jak2 1st could be better for use of Rux etc. I've seen another study on this too.

<<vitro data suggest that JAK2-first patients would be more likely to respond to JAK2 inhibitors>>

You've likely seen this data on AB vs MPN, it's consistent with your notes. (sorry I can't find the link I got it from)

Hope to see your future AB reductions progress.

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PhysAssist

Hi Solyesh,

Very complete and yet succinct post.

Thanks for all the information and the links- sounds like you have a great rapport with a better than could be expected MD.

Best of life to you!

PA

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