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[notmyfault2]

does anyone have experience of managing costs in a supported living environment.Would the vulnerable person have enough income to support cost of carers plus themselves in accessing such activities.Im aware that housing benefit will pay for rent but all other bills will have to be met by the vulnerable person what happens if there just isn’t enough money to support the person to lead a reasonable life

[AMPJAP]

Hi you question is difficult to answer what sort of supported living are looking for your son. As a example my son severe LD LIVES WITH 3 others in a five bedrooomed house in Lincolnshire Rent is housing benefit £2200 per month split. carers are paid for by county council on a 24/7 contract about £14000 per four weeks some of the time is 1-1 1-2 1-3 2-4 sharing the care costs one staff sleeping overnight.all food bill’s electric broadband water gas are about £390 per month each. he has £500 spending money clothes trips out theatre cinema holidays and pays £400 to the council as part of his contribution to his care package He get full PIP CARE MOBILITY and ESA WITH disability premium about £1591 a month so every month h3 has £150 over

So yes my son is able to afford this type of supported living

[notmyfault2 in reply to AMPJAP]

Thank you for your reply. The vulnerable person has challenging behaviour and had 2-1 sometimes 3-1 support, so is not able to live with others.

The income is £596 per month esa . Mobility is used for a car but doesn’t cover the cost of petrol.

the rent will be covered by Housing benefit but has to pay £584.67 for utilities/ food.

I am aware that they will receive £409 per month for pip care component.

Averages out to about £100 per week for clothes/ activities ( including paying for the carers)

This doesn’t seem to be viable but perhaps I’m wrong. I would be very interested to hear your advice .

[Bergersil400 in reply to notmyfault2]

Have you applied for Universal credit which will cover rent? The rest should cover bills, service charge, food & weekly money for activities. If not health funded will need to contribute towards care as well.

[notmyfault2 in reply to Bergersil400]

thank you

[Qwerty000 in reply to AMPJAP]

Hi, I’m trying to get a ballpark estimate also. This all sounds very good value for money all things considered.

It’s for my son. My ex is primary carer and seems to be adamant that he should live with her or very near to her, and is using the “abuse” card, essentially saying that she wouldn’t want to leave him with strangers in case they treat him badly.

Are you able to describe the place that the person you’re taking about is living in a little bit of detail? Is it a tiny flat or a large detached home? Is it town / city centre or suburbs etc etc. Also have you heard of any stories about poor care / abuse? My gut feeling is that she’s seen stuff in the papers etc and is assuming it’s rife when in actual fact it’s probably very rare???

[AMPJAP in reply to Qwerty000]

Just seen you comment as I said my son lives in a five bedroom detached house in Stamford rented privately to our sons but managed by the care company who provide 24/7 staff who in our view provide nearly the same love and caring attitude that he got at home.he has a full Program of activities meals out day service concerts holidays volunteering swimming I could go on. The manager/owners is most important the training of staff and providing continuity of care getting to know our sons they are all different medical and social needs And he has had four years that has given us piece of mind that he has a settled home .

As for money he receives housing benefit and gets PIP AND ESA with disability premium

Pip about £750 per 4 weeks ESA £490 per 2 weeks Food and utilities £400 every 4 weeks financial contribution to his care costs set by county council £100 per week so he has plenty of money to spend. Three of the boys via there parents bought a six seater car which they maintain (ins tyres service) rather than three mobility car each which does not work in our supported living the other boy who has mobility car is under the appointee of the county council. Again I’ve heard the stories and I don’t dismiss these reports but I know of good care companies in Lincolnshire. Mencap and other independent care companies

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[Qwerty000 in reply to AMPJAP]

Amazing response! Thank you! This is so valuable!