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'Be Patient. Let The Run Come to You.' Coach Blue, Nike Run Club.

Hi there wonderful VRBs!

Hope all is well in your runny worlds and that you are running and smiling in the sunshine as we hit the traditional holiday season here in the UK. Do join the chat below and let us know what youโ€™re up to.

Iโ€™m back home, the sun is out, my runs are improving. Healing times! Switzerland was amazing' Despite our bad luck, Iโ€™d love to go back and experience more of it sometime soon. There are some wonderful places to run, most accompanied by the sound of Swiss bells (church bells, cow bells, sheep bells ...)!!!

As always though, itโ€™s good to be home. Iโ€™ve managed to stay on track with my NRC HM plan (with a couple of minor modifications) and yesterday was a speed run - Deuces guided by Coach Blue. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and there was one particular phrase that has stuck with me โ€˜Be patient. Let the run come to youโ€™. It struck a chord for many reasons:

๐ŸŒž All the times I have been sitting it out on the injury couch; the wait seems interminable yet the runs wait, and when the time is right they have come to me.

๐ŸŒž Every time I run I experience the toxic ten, the sluggish start and itโ€™s all too easy for the mind games to start, for the gremlins to get a foothold (you know the ones - I canโ€™t do this today, Iโ€™m not fast/strong/good enough, Iโ€™m getting worse and worse โ€ฆ.), but if I can just wait and gently run through that initial phase, the run Iโ€™m looking for will invariably come to me.

๐ŸŒž Then thereโ€™s the NRC speed runs where weโ€™re asked to go from a pause for stretching to whatever effort the interval asks for; I usually find the first interval or two tricky as I build up to the necessary effort. But today Coach Blue made it very clear โ€ฆ โ€˜be patient, the run will come to youโ€™. And for sure it did. I relaxed, improved, thoroughly enjoyed it and ended with a big grin and a spring in my step, ready to enjoy my day!

'Be patient. The run will come to youโ€™ - thatโ€™s a new mantra added to my box of tricks. I suspect it will be called upon often.

Do you have a favourite mantra? What keeps you going? What helps you find that good run? Or what keeps your spirits up when you find yourself on the injury couch? Do share, donโ€™t keep a good mantra to yourself ๐Ÿ˜Ž

We hope youโ€™ve had a good week and that you have a great week ahead - whatever youโ€™re up to, wherever you are. Please do tell us all about it in the chat below.

Your Team: Irishprincess Beachcomber66 and me ๐Ÿ™‚ xxx

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Good morning Linda. The advice which has stuck with me from NRC is the exhortation to โ€œstart easyโ€. As you say, on the speed runs this is supplemented by the stretch pause after 5 minutes before starting speed runs. Both really work for me. The first five minutes of most runs feel rough, and then my legs catch on to what is expected and I pick up from there.

Saturday was an extreme example! I ran my first Park Run in years. My first lap was at 6:42 pace, after that I just felt really good so speeded up through negative splits to end with my first sub 30 minutes since the summer of 2019. New mile and 1k records too. A bit crazy but there you are.

Meeting up with an 85 year old marathon runner who started running in his 70โ€™s (he is off to tackle Berlin) made me think that we shouldnโ€™t accept age as a limiter too easily. I wonโ€™t run a marathon, but I might just work my way through the plan to see how far I can goโ€ฆโ€ฆ

My sensible head will kick in soonโ€ฆ.must be the sun !

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

๐Ÿ˜ˆ Never say never BC! ๐Ÿ˜ˆ

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

NEVER !!!! ๐Ÿ˜‡

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ ( ๐Ÿคฅ )

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Hmmm. Letโ€™s look at the evidence!

I finally got out of the door for a planned 8 mile run at about 4:30pm. It was still 24 degrees with a nice warming breeze, complemented by the softing light of the early evening sun. Ideal conditions. CB didnโ€™t like it though; he maintained a Trappist silence throughout. Sharp guy our CB! Didnโ€™t want to be associated with what was to follow!

I had just grabbed the first bit of running kit which came to hand; black OMM shirt and shorts. Not the best choice for hot weather. Worse was to come!

It wasnโ€™t until I was descending a hill at about 10.5k, and my left quad started to complain, that I gave a thought to hydration. I hadnโ€™t taken anything to drink with me,!I started to count the number of drinks I had consumed all day. 2 cups of tea, 2 cups of milky coffeeโ€ฆ.and that was about itโ€ฆโ€ฆ.!

I started the walk of shame home at 11.75k. What a numpty!! If you can hear the sound of metaphorical stable doors slamming in the background, that will be me, slurping up sodium rich liquids โ€ฆ..alas too late.

Marathon runners are really organised โ€ฆโ€ฆ.๐Ÿ™‚

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

... ahh, but marathon runners train in order to become organised ๐Ÿ˜

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

But we learn about hydration in C25k! ๐Ÿ™‚

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Sid we? ๐Ÿค” If only all things were learned from the first lesson!!!

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I didnโ€™t learn about it until I was running 15km!!!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

I can make up some excuses; last year I was out of action through the summer; injury and trip to Alaska ( running in bear country is not recommended!) This year we have only seen hot days in the last two weeks and yesterday was my first run later in the dayโ€ฆ. but ; a rookie error. I have let it go now; spilt milkโ€ฆ. But confession is good for my soul ๐Ÿ˜‡

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Confessions amongst friends who have all made the same mistakes is even better!!

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Definitely; I wouldnโ€™t be running ow without all the lovely people here.

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Spot on. And many times too ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ˜

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Not just spilt milk ... hopefully a lesson learned ๐Ÿ˜Š

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Definitely; plenty of liquids including zero have been glugged today.

Yesterday was a bad day; starting at the minor injuries unit ..possible foreign object in my ear. All turned out fine, but it threw my whole day out. I actually thought โ€œ maybe I am not supposed to run today โ€œ but I did anyway! End of plea in mitigation.๐Ÿ™„

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Oh my BC. Glad that turned out to be something and nothing. A big win that you got out at all.

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

So maybe we can dock Captain Sensibie a point for his lack of hydration planning, but really Beachcomber66 youโ€™re not the only one. I didnโ€™t think about taking water or anything on my 10 miler, whereas thereโ€™s no way Iโ€™d run that distance outside without any.

I was lucky - you were sensible and walked home! Weโ€™re always learning!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

The gym will have had air conditioning? If so, no problem. You are right CC, we all make mistakes, some are dafter than othersโ€ฆโ€ฆluckily we get away with most of them! Good to have friends to back us up when things go wrong.๐Ÿ™‚

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

It did Beachcomber66 , but I was on my favourite treadmill at the end, which unfortunately doesnโ€™t get the full benefit so I was dripping! Maybe I should pick a different favourite treadmill? No, I donโ€™t think I can! ๐Ÿ˜‚

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Tsk. Tsk!

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Couldn't agree more CC!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Oh wow! Congratulations . Well, you definitely started easy for that parkrun ('easy' being a relative term) - what a great run. Age may call for adaptations, but limitations don't have to be front and centre. The NRC marathon plan is gentler than the HM one (well, up to HM distance it is anyway!); definitely worth giving it a try.

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I will have a look; thanks Linda.๐Ÿ™‚

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Well done BC ๐Ÿ‘ Your consistency is paying big dividends ๐Ÿ‘

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks IP. Bit of focus on hydration now and I might be in decent shape. ๐Ÿ™„

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I had a 10K to do today and I normally donโ€™t take water with me for that distance but given it was already 20 something at 9am I took some water and a bit of Tailwind too. Thank goodness I did as it was hot and I was sweating a lot. It was a very slow run ๐Ÿฅต

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

You see, that is how it should be done ; well prepared and sticking to a sensible pace IP. Brilliant work.๐Ÿ‘

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

The heat makes such a difference doesn't it. I got it wrong a couple of times in Switzerland.

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Youโ€™re not the only one BC. Last year was a big lesson in hydration and sodium intake for me. We are always learning!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Decker

Nice to be in good company ๐Ÿ™‚. Partly is was down to the sudden change in weather.After over 6 months of rain we have had a couple of weeks of bright sun.

Brain in gear now.๐Ÿ‘

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DeckerUltramarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Yep the temptation is strong to just get out there and run in the sun โ˜€๏ธ Also the time I need to watch not overdoing it ๐Ÿ˜€

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RunSkippyRunHalf Marathon

Hi Linda, hi all,

lots of things to think about in your post - thank you. As someone who's trying to re-find something I lost a while back these are nice, comforting sentiments ๐Ÿ˜€

It's been a goodish few weeks (had a lovely seaside parkrun on Saturday). Slowly getting back and being a bit patient and getting a bit stronger. This week there's a 8k on Thursday evening which has a horrible hill at around 5 k ... I'm wondering whether it'll be very hot and whether to Jeff it or try to tough it out ... we shall see. But there will be pie and peas at the end - my stomach thinks this a great incentive ๐Ÿคฃ

Happy running all.

(I also like "runny worlds")

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to RunSkippyRun

Pie and peas! Now that is a great incentive (though possibly less so in the heat!!!).

Good to hear things are moving in the right direction. Good outcomes take time (and effort) as they say, but they do tend to be worth the wait.

Good luck Thursday, however you decide to tackle it ๐ŸŒž

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunSkippyRun

What sort of pie is it? ๐Ÿ˜‹

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Love a pie in any weather! ๐Ÿ˜‹

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Dexy510 Miles

Hello Linda, did you learn how to yodel in the Swiss mountains? Iโ€™m glad you went on to enjoy the holiday despite your initial setbacks.

I always remember, while doing C25K, Jo Whiley saying you should repeat โ€œI love runningโ€ when the gremlins start chatting away. Coach Bennett also says to smile while you run and you relax into it better. Both seem to help me.

On Friday I went out in the heat to do an 8k run. I was bemoaning the fact that it seemed so hard and that 16.1k (10 miles) seems so far away on a WhatsApp chat with running buddies. They did exactly what you would expect of forum buddies and boosted me up when I needed it.

As we were both volunteering at parkrun on Saturday, UTS and I ran the RunWalkLocal on Sunday in 21ยฐC ๐Ÿฅต. It wasnโ€™t fast and included a few walking steps, but at least I managed to run 17k this week.

Have a good week all.

Dexy on a hot RunWalkLocal
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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Dexy5

Smiling definitely helps doesnโ€™t it Dexy5 ? Laughing is a bit tough though, and I often find myself laughing out loud at Coach B and pals - especially the exchanges with Daniel the Engineer! ๐Ÿ˜…

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Dexy510 Miles in reply to cheekychipmunks

Oh yes, poor Daniel.

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Dexy5

Poor Daniel/ I think I dislike Daniel even more than CB!!!

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I love Daniel and Coach B linda9389 - they make me chuckle. ๐Ÿ˜‚

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Be careful - passersby will be getting worried!

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misswobbleMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Daniel the Engineer reminds me of Radar Oโ€™Riley in M.A.S.H tv programme ๐Ÿ˜€

Coach B talking about his brotherโ€™s leg conking out on a run made me howl ๐Ÿ˜

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You will be ready Dexy5. No rushโ€ฆ๐Ÿ™‚

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Yep Dexy5 , be patient and let that 10 mile run come to you ๐Ÿฅฐ

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Dexy5

Haha, we did discuss yodelling when we got to the top. To be honest the cow bells would have drowned us out anyway ๐Ÿ˜

I love running is a good one; I often think to myself I'm so grateful I can run, particularly if I'm beginning to flag or struggle, and that helps too.

Sometimes 3k can feel a struggle, then 8k in 21 degrees would feel like an impossibility so don't be too hard on yourself. Gotta love run buddies though - they're the best for keeping you going, helping you find that good run and keeping your spirits up๐Ÿฅฐ What a great photo!

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Hi Linda and all. I love Switzerland. Its sheer beauty is breathtaking. Plus I was (still am) rather a large Roger Federer fan! Not sure Iโ€™d fare well trotting up those Alpine passes though! ๐Ÿฅต Iโ€™m amazed how well you bounced back after those mishaps though Linda. Tough stuff indeed! ๐Ÿ‘Š

I felt pleased with myself yesterday. After my recent couple of weeks off with my cold (pretty sure it wasnโ€™t Covid, but who knows?) I wanted to fit my long W9 run in, and it was another 10 miler.

But โ€ฆ. Iโ€™d promised my grandson Iโ€™d watch his tennis lesson at 9:30am. Not enough time to nip down to the Prom in Weston, no way was I subjecting myself to all those kms on the common, so guess what? Treadmill time! ๐Ÿ˜…

I did it - 3 x 5ks + 1 x 1.2k with super quick resets in between (darned hour limit), and I had fun! Finished in time to watch the tennis lesson and felt righteous. ๐Ÿ˜‡ My mantra? I can and will do this - and it works 99% of the time.

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

It didn't feel like I bounced back well at all CC; I've felt proper feeble for a couple of weeks!!! Even now I cannot get my sports bra fully fastened by myself ๐Ÿ˜ 

I just couldn't imagine 16k on a treadmill - you're amazing! As for getting it done before 9:30am? I need to lie down just thinking about that!!!

'I can and will do this' is so powerful and right to the point - love that!

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

The fact youโ€™re running at all after all that is mind blowing linda9389 ! Lots of us would have curled up into a ball for a while. Not you. ๐Ÿ‘Š

As for my run, well needs must and Iโ€™d have been cross if Iโ€™d bailed. Shows how determined us runners can be! ๐Ÿ˜€

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

When I'm knocked down I miss running even more, I crave the lift that I know I will get from the runs. Even the tough ones - maybe especially the tough ones!

Determined indeed!

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

16K on a treadmill!!! Blimey. You deserve a separate piece of bling for that Munks ๐Ÿ…

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks Irishprincess , I wondered whether I was being overly daft attempting it, but somehow I knew Iโ€™d be fine! I owe lots to the treadmill. Itโ€™s saved my running on many occasion., and it did again on Sunday. ๐Ÿ™

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Another fine line - we know ourselves best but we can't avoid the odd daft optimistic mistake. Hindsight is a wonderful thing ๐Ÿ˜

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

You deserve a cape after that superhero treadmill run!! And before 930am. Wow. I bow down in serious admiration!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

You and me both!!!

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

To be honest MissUnderstanding , it was fine and I really did enjoy it! I donโ€™t enjoy running in exfreme weather conditions and if I can avoid it, I will! ๐Ÿ˜…

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Were you watching something or listening to something as you ran 10 miles on a treadmill!?My brain can not begin to think about such a thing. My head is shaking! Words fail me ....

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Yes to both over61andstilltrying . The treadmills overlook the pool where thereโ€™s always a lot going on. You can also see other people running on treadmills on the other side of the pool. I had my favourite tunes from my very long running playlist in my ears, so I was a happy bunny. ๐Ÿ˜€

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

So people watching and music oh dear! We are all different, aren't we?! Happy bunny sounds good ๐Ÿ‡๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Different is good ๐Ÿ‘

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RunWillieMarathon

Hi linda9389 & other VRBโ€™s

I love this running quote โ€œA good run is like coffee. Iโ€™m nicer once Iโ€™ve had oneโ€

Weโ€™ve been enjoying both in Bali.

Happy week everyone! โค๏ธ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿƒ๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

An island run over the yellow bridge
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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to RunWillie

Love that RW!!! Hope you're having a wonderful, wonderful time ๐ŸŒž

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

This is absolutely me!!! Iโ€™m nicking that motto!!!

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon

Hi Linda and other VRBs. It sounds as if you have recovered brilliantly from your accident and it didnโ€™t stop you having a fab time.

I love the sound of cowbells. My first honeymoon was spent in Switzerland and the sound of cow bells is still a strong memory, as is the glorious scenery.

You and I, and others here, know the meaning of patience only too well ๐Ÿ™„ but I do love that โ€œthe run will come to youโ€ . Itโ€™s so true isnโ€™t it? Although itโ€™s very easy to lose heart while on the IC and think, โ€œIโ€™ll never run againโ€, โ€œmaybe this is it for meโ€ โ€ฆ. etc etc. But keeping in touch with folks here keeps me grounded and gives me loads of inspiration and self-belief and so I keep going โค๏ธ

My sports massage therapist told me about a 73 year-old lady in his running club whose marathon time is 3:30 and she started running in her 50โ€™s!!! I take a lot of inspiration from that.

I do have a mantra and use it fairly often. โ€œDonโ€™t be a wimp. Just do itโ€ ๐Ÿคฃ It puts things in perspective for me because I know that running a hard run is nothing compared to what others put themselves through or have to go through so I just say to myself to get on with it.

Iโ€™m into my second high mileage week on the HM plan and itโ€™s all going well. Because of the heat I took a stronger mix of Tailwind with me on my long run at the weekend and experienced a bit of an upset tummy afterwards as well as a strange dizzy feeling. Iโ€™ve put it down to the fact it was the extra caffeine which Iโ€™m not used to, so it will be my usual mixture this weekend. Itโ€™s all still a learning curve ๐Ÿ™‚

Enjoy your running Linda and have a great week everyone x

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Itโ€™s tricky getting the Tailwind mix right isnโ€™t it Irishprincess ? Too weak and itโ€™s โ€™whatโ€™s the point?โ€™, too strong and itโ€™s โ€˜bletchโ€™. Iโ€™ve never tried gels, but I can imagine theyโ€™re bletchier still.

Iโ€™m amazed at these late starter veteran marathon runners. I hope to be one - but there will be one major difference between me and that 73 year old ( ๐ŸŒ ) ๐Ÿ˜…

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

No Iโ€™ve never tried gels either. Even the thought makes me heave ๐Ÿคข

Lots of years for us still Munks, so exciting ๐Ÿค—

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

It's a very fine line between bleugh and bletch ๐Ÿ˜

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

What a lovely place to spend your honeymoon. Wow, that's one amazing lady!!! Times like that are inconceivable to me - at any age. 'Don't be a wimp' is a bit harsh ๐Ÿ˜ but it sounds like you respond well to a bit of 'tough love' ๐Ÿ˜Ž

I went right off tailwind; it was fine on my tummy for ages and then suddenly I couldn't stomach it. I much prefer an ordinary electrolyte drink now and take chews for energy. That's been working for quite a long time now, so fingers crossed it remains that way. Good to hear your mileage is unaffected though, as you move closer to your half.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Weโ€™re all different. I use to take my home made flapjacks which I still love, but I found it a faff to eat, breathe and run at the same time. Now I just eat them as post-run fuel ๐Ÿ˜‹

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

The chews just gradually melt at the side of my mouth. Probably not so good for my teeth mind!!!

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Yes I think about my teeth when Iโ€™m slurping the Tailwind but luckily my dentist is a runner too ๐Ÿ˜Š

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon

Patience? Whatโ€™s that?!! Itโ€™s been a rubbish couple of weeks with covid but Iโ€™ve run twice in the past couple of days. Iโ€™m way off the training plan but Iโ€™m giving myself a week or two to just build slowly and see where that shakes out. Itโ€™s so good to be moving again, albeit a bit slowly!

As for mantras? My most commonly used one is sinply โ€œget it doneโ€. That often comes out on those bit-of-a-grind runs that just have to be done to get the miles in the legs. It doesnโ€™t have to be pretty. It just has to be done. Lock in and enjoy the boring, sort of tough miles! I genuinely do like that sort of run. My husband always likes my run reports for those sorts of runs as โ€œI did it by doing it!โ€ Donโ€™t overthink. Donโ€™t make it more complicated than it needs to be. Just start running and run until you finish. Do it by doing it.

When Iโ€™ve been injured, Iโ€™ve found reframing โ€œrestโ€ as โ€œrecoveryโ€ really helps because that means Iโ€™m actively doing things that will help me come back instead of on the sofa feeling sorry for myself. I wish Iโ€™d managed that during this bout of Covid but I mainly sat on my bottom and ate crisps.

Thanks for a great post. Those Swiss cows are certainly a sight to behold!

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Hahaha! Thatโ€™s what I do when Iโ€™m not running for any reason MissUnderstanding - crisps! Guess how many bags of Hula Hoops I ate IN A ROW recently when I was off with my cold? 4!! I could have continued too! ๐Ÿ˜‚

I love โ€˜get it doneโ€™. Snappy and factual! ๐Ÿ‘Š

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Iโ€™ll raise you, I once ate six bags of cheese and onion in one sitting ๐Ÿ™Š

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

I see your six bags of cheese and onion and raise you twelve bags of wotsits. In my defence, I was writing a final year dissertation ..,

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ ok you win.

Mind you, in our defence, I do think the bags have shrunk over the years. When I open a bag of crisps now, I say, โ€œis that it?โ€ ๐Ÿ•ต๏ธ

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Yes!!!! Shrinkflation I think is what itโ€™s called. And wotsits are mainly air anywayโ€ฆ

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

If I didn't care about my health or care about how Iโ€™d feel the next morning, Iโ€™d eat those bumper bag of crisps and drink a bottle of red wine. One day perhapsโ€ฆ.. one day ๐Ÿ˜‡

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

I'm coming close to closing this thread .... ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคข๐Ÿ˜

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Just that flavour or crisp in general? I can eat all flavours with the same abandon, apart from Prawn Cocktail ๐Ÿคข

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Just cheese and onion. .. or bacon ... or beef ... maybe some others ...

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Snap! Canโ€™t bear prawn cocktail. The othersโ€ฆsend them all my way!!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

OMG! I can't eat ONE bag of cheese and onion ... ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคข

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Thank you!

Four bags of hula hoops is impressive but I think with training at a steady, conversational space, youโ€™ll see that number build slowly over time. ๐Ÿคฃ

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Donโ€™t tempt me! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Whaaaattttt??? ๐Ÿคข

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Donโ€™t you like them linda9389 ? ๐Ÿซจ

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

No!!! Nor anyone who recently ate them ๐Ÿ˜

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Whaaaat? Iโ€™m aghast! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

More for me!

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

They were something else to hear!

Glad you're now off your behind, ditched the crisps and back out running (you have ditched the crisps right?). Now for some mental athletics as you juggle your plan to fit again; get it done! That's a great mantra, keeps it simple!

For sure, time on the IC can be so much more than 'rest' can't it. Recovery, yes. But sometimes more than that too - I doubt I'd ever have found my second interest in cycling had it not been for my stress fracture. Silver linings and all that ๐Ÿฅฐ

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Crisp consumption has now fallen to pre-covid levels!! One delicious packet of lidl deluxe cheese and onion with lunch!!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

I simply can not like this comment! But I do like that that he covid symptoms are abating ๐Ÿ˜

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ

Thank you! It is nice to feel a bit more like myself โค๏ธ

Tessie66 profile image
Tessie66

So far this week Gym 6 a side football and went with the 40 minutes nice slow run on the NRC but it was a hot and sweaty one this evening . Well done to anyone who goes out running in this weather ๐Ÿ‘

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Tessie66

It's tough in this heat isn't it? Hydrate well and find as much shade as possible.

Tessie66 profile image
Tessie66 in reply to linda9389

DEFINITELY too hot I've decided not to do any ridiculous long runs this week ๐Ÿ™ƒ

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Tessie66

It's either that, or a very early start maybe? Finding a shaded route can help too. There's 10 miles on my plan for Saturday ... I think I'll need an early night on Friday to get up early enough on Saturday!!!

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Tessie66 in reply to linda9389

I'm up for work at 5.30 so early mornings not for me but I'll do parkrun Saturday and after taking my daughter to the airport early on Sunday I might do my long run before a week away myself

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Tessie66

Oh gosh yes, that's an early work start!!!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon

This reply is a crisp and allied confectionery free zone!

A little trot today, well two really; a 5k recovery run, pause for coffee, then the 15 minute CB start the week recovery run. No hangover from Mondayโ€™s foul up, but I I took things carefully. I have booked an appointment with my physio for Tuesday as a precaution. Saturdayโ€™s speed run and Mondayโ€™s long run will test things out. Another journey begins!

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Phew. Another bullet dodged BC! It's 28C here and 1.30pm. I have a speed run to do. Currently waiting for cloud and rain ๐Ÿ˜

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Only 22 hereโ€ฆplenty warm enough. Trouble with evening runs up in the woods is that midges come out to play. Enjoy, whenever you fit your run in.๐Ÿ‘

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon

Hello Linda,

So good to read that your runs are improving and even that you are incorporating speed runs. No speed runs for me since the Duffield 5 on 24th June. Astoundingly to me my injured knee is behaving like a 'normal' knee and I have even been running without a knee support on it but my left knee is a cause for concern. I can no longer bend it fully so getting to the bottom of the fridge and up again is a challenge and any similar manoeuvres. Boo! I began wearing a knee support on it a while back and am being regular with the physio exercises. I know that I stupidly tried that 'how am I at getting up from sitting on the floor in the crossed legged position without using my hands test thing' - big mistake, my knee was already not happy and that test should not be attempted with a poorly knee. Keep thinking of going the self referral route for a physio, but so far I have gone with MAF running again setting a heart rate alert at 128bpm, so very slow meaning less impact through my knee and completing my knee physio.

As for mantras, I particularly remember a time when I had lost the joy of running and went with each run is an 'investment in my health'. No argument allowed, just do it. Since more than one time when running was not possible, I just so value being able to run and want to try to keep up my level of fitness. I endeavour to plan for enjoyment with varying my running routes and interesting podcasts. BBC sounds Lives Less Ordinary among many others. Was it Decker's recent link that stated 'every mile is a gift' and 'every run is an adventure' I like those. My adventure this morning including musing on whether I should carry some sort of mini secateurs to deal with stinging nettles. Would have definitely helped me.

Thank you for hosting and happy running to you ๐Ÿƒโ€โ™€๏ธ๐Ÿ˜Š

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

What a shame about the grumbling knee. Perhaps it spent a little too long compensating for the other. If I were you I'd try the self referral; there's likely to be a wait if they are busy so if it improves you can cancel and some other lucky soul will get your slot but if it gets worse then you're already in the system. If thre isn't a long wait then they're not busy and you'll get some valuable insight as to how to mend it.Investment in my health is a great mantra; do, so true. Finding enjoyment is a fabulous added bonus- keep it up ๐Ÿฅฐ

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over61andstilltryingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Hello again Linda and Beachcomber66 , I had been musing on ringing the physio referral system for probably 3 weeks, so many tasks, continually playing catch up, but I knew it was the right thing to do. So thank you for encouraging me to get on with it. ๐Ÿ˜Š I'd already thought that if the problem had gone by the time the appointment happens, someone else would be delighted to have my cancellation. I waited for ages on the phone, but in the end went with the 'press 0 and leave a message' option. I'll keep you posted. I actually think that I have another torn/damaged meniscus even though I didn't have a fall. Boo! Physios are very knowledgeable so I look forward to what the appointment reveals. Of course, more than happy if my knee improves with the 'treatment' I'm giving it.

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Well done. I'm sure you won't regret it xxx

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

I second the self referral. The trouble with knees is that, as you know, the real source of the problem can be elsewhereโ€ฆ.hips, adductors, quads, hamstrings. I like the comfort of knowing that my physio has got to the root of the problem and thus given me the right exercise regime. That is important as sometimes things can feel worse before they improve. Oh, despite the posts above, I donโ€™t think that crisps of any flavour will help๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฅฐ

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DeckerUltramarathon

That is a great mantra Linda. I donโ€™t have a mantra as such but I do have ongoing conversations with myself on long runs :).

My weekly miles have dropped considerably since I have no full maras in line for this year. Instead I switched to improving my HM speed a bit and enjoying the trails again. Last year with two road maras, it was all road training and I missed the trails. The mosquitoes not so much.

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Decker

Those conversations can get pretty heated in my head on a tricky run ๐ŸคฃAh yes, I'm sure you're happy to be back on the trails. Happily our biting insects are mostly relatively lightweight.

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon in reply to linda9389

You and me both ๐Ÿ™‚. Last week after the rains, the mossies were out in full force

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Decker

I had forgotten all about no-see-ums and Deer Flies!

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Thankfully few deer flies on my local trails!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Decker

We spent most of our time near or on lakes; deer flies were quite happy to fly out to our canoes; they bite lumps out of you!

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Yes we see them a bit further north. We did a trip to Manatoulin Island a few years back and they were everywhere. They donโ€™t mess around!

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