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Hello fellow running people 👋 How’s it all going?

Here we are at almost a third of the year already! Blimey. Where has all that time gone?

For me, some of that time has been spent watching loads of YouTube stuff about running. Anything running related and I’m there! I especially love watching other people run, either in races or just on a gorgeous looking route. It all makes me want to head out straight away and run.

One of my favourite channels is The Running Channel. They give great advice and they have various challenges for their presenters which are fun to watch. So, imagine my intrigue when I spied a video a few weeks ago which shows Sarah, one of their presenters, running a 5K. And that’s it. That’s all the video shows. Just Sarah running. No music, no commentary, just the sound of her footsteps and breathing. It’s a one shot ASMR.

(ASMR - I had to google what this is - Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response, a term which defines “the relaxing sensation someone experiences when watching certain visuals or listening to particular sounds”)

youtu.be/YWjr0AEo9eY

I must say that I found it incredibly soothing and meditative. And looking at the comments section I’m not alone. It was like going out for a run with someone else without the effort 🙂 I hope you enjoy it.

 Whether you’re running or resting or watching others run, or whatever else you’re doing, have a great week everyone.

From The Marathon Team

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Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon

Good morning IP, although there is little good about the rain lashing down outside! I guess that it will clear the remaining pockets of snow, so there is an upside.

I have started to enjoy a bit of company via NRC as I jog along on long runs. It is comforting to know that at least one of us out on the run knows what they are doing! The wind is supposed to drop off by 10mph by lunch time today, so maybe a 1 hour NRC run with Eliud is in order. I am in “ taking each run as it comes” mode since first a chest virus and then the snow wrecked my HM plan at 15k. No sense in pushing things. At least I am coming out of this winter niggle free and stronger than I was in the last two years. You can’t have it all. 14 May HM looks impossible; running as far as I can will have to be enough.🙂

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Snap BC. My HUHM is in jeopardy too. as I’m STILL suffering from what sounds to be a similar virus to yours. I no longer feel bad - just weary after 5 full-on days in Rome - but the cough is still there. I think I’m going to have to make friends with Jeff to help regain any semblance of fitness. 🙄 Hope you continue to improve. 🤞

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Hi CC. It has been a bad winter for bugs! In the last two Springs/summers I have had to push to get myself up to race distance; it “got me over the line” but that was about it. I just want to concentrate on getting fit properly, and then see what is happening at that point. Today will tell me quite a lot about my underlying fitness I think.

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Good luck; hope all goes well. 🤞

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Sorry to read that Munks. A lingering cough seems to be a symptom of the particular strain of cold this year. Such a nuisance.

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Morning BC (even though it’s a different morning now 🙂)

Enjoyment is still the name of the game but I know how frustrating it is to get side-tracked by so many obstacles.

You’ve still got plenty of time before May. I have got stuck at 14K and am aiming to go ahead 🤞 but don’t want to push things. Your last comment needs to be my new mantra 😇

Here’s to niggle-free and stronger days ahead for all of us 🤞

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

I enjoyed the run, but VO2 Max has fallen through the floor….never really believed in it anyway.😂

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Impossible you say?

Dexy5 profile image
Dexy510 Miles in reply to Beachcomber66

You may not get to HM by 14 May BC but you will get there in your own time with your Captain Sensible hat on. Chest infections are not to be ignored when you are a runner and biding your time is all you can do. But, like you say, you are stronger in all other respects and I will be virtually there cheering you on when you do cross that HM line

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Dexy5

🙂 Thanks Dexy5. Yesterday was a big step forward. A slightly quicker 5k at 7min/k and VO2 max gave me a point back! My resting heart rate is now close to normal at 56. So all heading in the right direction. The surgery is changing my asthma meds too; something a shade stronger. I am being so sensible it hurts !😉

Dexy5 profile image
Dexy510 Miles in reply to Beachcomber66

Well done ! Mr Garmin can be so cruel, taking points away when you’re down.

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Hi IP, oh I can’t wait to see that video. I shall run vicariously through Sarah! It sounds so therapeutic. 🥰

My own running has been affected yet again by a hideous chest virus. I’d started my HM plan on 21st February, got struck down by the virus the next day, and I’ve only run once since - Caffarella PR in Rome!

What a blast! I wasn’t going to miss it as a few of my choir friends were going along, so I adopted my slow chipmunk trot and made my way round the lovely tracks and meadow in a snaily time. One of my friends was the quickest woman! ❤️

I really REALLY cannot wait for all these winter bugs to sling their hook as I want to get running again properly. My patience is fast running out 🙄 The Bristol 10k and HUHM the following week are still on my radar in May, but I will more than likely need to accept that Jeff will be accompanying me.

Still, spring’s nearly here isn’t it? 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

You will get there Cheeky; steely Chipmunk determination!👊

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Oh how exciting to run in Rome! At least you can tick that off now Munks. I’m sure it was wonderful 😍

Grrrrr, these ruddy viruses and colds. They do hang around. My husband is still coughing after a cold he had before Christmas.

I flew to Ireland yesterday and didn’t bring my running kit because my shins were a bit ouchy after a 14K last weekend. I’m still aiming for the HUHM but might have to Jeff some of it too. So frustrating isn’t it?

We just need some nice warm weather. I’m sure that will make our aches and pains disappear immediately 😎

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Dexy510 Miles in reply to cheekychipmunks

How blooming annoying cheekychipmunks ! This has been the most horrendous winter for you with all these colds and infections. I hope you are feeling on top of the world again soon.

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMetric Marathon

Hi  Irishprincess & other running VRB’s,

Thank you! I will have a watch when Alvin the chipmunk is not in the background. Alvin’s voice is the opposite of mediative & soothing 🤣

Onto week 16 of my HM plan. It’s another 32 mile week on the plan but I will just do 30miles. I had a good 10 mile run last week & felt strong so I’m feeling more confident.

Happy week everyone ❤️🏃‍♀️🏃🏻‍♂️

Today’s run
Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

Sky back to normal RW; good to see.🙂

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMetric Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

It was a bit cloudy yesterday  Beachcomber66 Today it’s back to normal 🤣

Today’s run
Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

We will be talking to our friend from just north of Brisbane this morning, so we will see how things are in his patch! Just a few white clouds at high level this morning over here and the wind and rain have gone. Maybe I should have left my run until this morning!🙂

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMetric Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I’m very happy to hear the wind & rain have gone 😊

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

A pale imitation over here this morning; and only 5C !

Morning colour photo of tree and blue sky
Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Gorgeous BC 😍

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

What a beautiful shade of blue 😍

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

You’re on a roll RW! And feeling strong is such a fabulous feeling….. 💪

RunWillie profile image
RunWillieMetric Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks Irishprincess 😍

I haven’t felt strong since Covid last year so I was happy with my 10miler. I’m going to go 2hours tomorrow nice & easy which will be my last long run until my HM on Ist April.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunWillie

Enjoy 🤗

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon

Hello Irishprincess , thanks for hosting! I must also apologise for what I'm about to say re that video. It's not directed at you - I appreciate your going to the trouble of finding and posting it, and it's highly likely that others will enjoy watching.

Although running videos aren't my thing, tempted by your recommendation and the idea of ASMR, I thought I'd give that one a go. Unfortunately I only made it to two minutes before giving up in exasperation. The noise irritated rather than soothed me. More importantly, why oh why is she running in the middle of a road, along which cars are driving, with her back to the traffic? No. Just no. (I can't post my actual reaction as it was considerably more strongly worded.)

So there you have it - I continue to be odd. I'm also still refusing to track all my runs, let alone follow a plan. Instead I'm doing things like randomly running up and down hills and fields for no reason other than I want to and finally, after months of injury and illness, I'm back to being able to do so.

Run happy, everybody, whatever that means to you!

AlMorr profile image
AlMorrHalf Marathon in reply to Cmoi

I watched part of that video as well Cmoi, the lady is running at about 25 minute 5K pace along a fairly busy road, I think it's in America, for someone like me who runs all my running off road I do think it is a bit dangerous, nevertheless how many runners have the word of their running club with the word "roadrunners" as the club they belong to, quite a lot.

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to AlMorr

I think that it is in Lanzarote Al; unless I have got it wrong (again!) 🙂

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AlMorrHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I watched it a second time, this time for the full 25 minutes, I agree with you BC66 that it's Lanzarote not America, its quite a good video, she's a marathon runner, she completed that 5K in 24:58. I know a lady at parkrun who averages 25 minutes, about 7 or 8 minutes faster than my average.

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to AlMorr

I am just keeping my pace down and building up distance again now that my chest infection is clearing up. Today was far too windy to think about pace anyway. One of those runs which feels best in retrospect. A couple of short runs next 🙂.

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AlMorrHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

👍 🏃🏾

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Cmoi

It’s not going to appeal to everyone Cmoi and we’re all different, thank goodness!

I remember once a friend lending me a tape (olden days) to soothe me to sleep as I was having some sleepless nights. I got myself all comfy and relaxed and switched on the tape. Well, I found his voice really spooky and scary 😳. It was like something from a horror film so I had to switch it off. Didn’t work for me.

I’m so glad your running is going well. Have a great week 😍

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks  Irishprincess - I'd be terrified if I had a spooky voice telling me to go to sleep! I'd be wide awake and off to find something to protect myself!! Have a lovely week yourself 😘

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ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon

Good afternoon IP, and thank you for being chat host this week.😀

Sorry to hear of other VRBs having to deal with the aftermath of viruses. Hope Beachcomber66 and cheekychipmunks are past that as soon as. 🤞

I enjoyed watching Sarah's video of the Osaka marathon. Marathon runners fascinate me because they make it look so easy - and I always think there is a lesson there for me to learn - to try to make my gait as easy and natural as I can.

I am feeling I am in a lucky streak at the moment. After a month of low heart rate running I am really enjoying it, and often end a run swimming in endorphins which I think of as being "stupid happy". I've basically used gentle running to drug myself! 😂

I have read it can take 4-6 months to realise the benefits of LHR, so I hope to be patient and continue with this approach to give it time to do its work. So far so good!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

Hi FP. My run with Eliud went just fine thanks. 7:30/k, so 8k exactly in 1 hour. A “there and back”; out run into a gale and therefore a wind assisted return. On the way back I met up with someone I haven’t seen for nearly 30 years, so we and her OH had a good chat over coffee to top off the morning. I am going to review the video now. 🙂

ForbiddenPlanet profile image
ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Great stuff BC. Hope you had a nice runner's high after your run? I enjoyed the "breeze" this morning - helped to keep my heart rate down! 😀

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

My post run chat was very pleasant. I think the “high” loosens the tongue!

My AHR needs attention; I think the virus may be an influence. Whatever; I will keep up the long slow runs until it behaves itself! 8k was enough today, especially with the wind. I reckon I have dropped back 5 weeks on the NRC HM plan. Maybe I can catch up a bit on that by only running one 10k run. As 14 May is now out of the question there really is no pressure. Maybe I should just aim for a good 10k on that day before upping the distance again. All a question of how I feel. 👍

ForbiddenPlanet profile image
ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I would definitely blame the virus! 10K sounds sensible, and eminently achievable - you're not far off that already with your 8K, but like you say, whatever feels right! 👍

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

Did you go for a chest heart rate monitor in the end FP? My current thinking is that my Garmin may be as accurate as it ever was and that the real problem is the virus.

ForbiddenPlanet profile image
ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Not yet. I generally buy stuff like that as a reward - so I'll have to think of a challenge to set myself, so I "deserve" it. 🤣

Honestly I would say it's the virus - but maybe wait and see if it settles down?

Over the past month of LHR when I've been paying particular attention to HR I've been happy with my Garmin, I have noticed some things, like the obvious - if I haven't slept well or am otherwise tired the HR goes up. I'm sure a virus would have the same effect.

There was a software update a couple of weeks ago and the watch was telling me my HR average was in the 140s - which was nonsense because I was not even sweating.

The next day there was another update "just for GPS" and then normal service was resumed, although I make a point of cleaning the sensor, and my wrist where it will sit before a run, and maybe I forgot on the day the watch went doolally!

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

Thanks. I will check out the updates.👍

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

Out of the question you say? 🙁

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I have lost two weeks with a chest infection and then snow interfered. 8k was ok on Monday, but I am way behind the programme with VO2 max in my boots. Not promising !

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

But 'no such thing as impossible' ... or so my mum used to tell me 🤣 Take care xxx

Beachcomber66 profile image
Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

That was our daughter’s mantra; “you can do anything if you try hard enough!” She achieved great things too ….takes after her mother 🙂

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Beachcomber66

🥰

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

Sarah has come a long way and she is very good in front of the camera. I find some of their videos quite emotional but maybe that’s just me 🙄

Your running is going brilliantly by the sound of it. Enjoy your current streak and endorphins! If only you could bottle it 🙂

Have a great week 😍

ForbiddenPlanet profile image
ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thank you - you too - hope your return to running continues apace!😀

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to ForbiddenPlanet

Thanks for the kind thoughts ForbiddenPlanet . I’m beyond cheesed off with this virus and really need it to go. It’s been close to a month since I came down with this particular beauty and I really don’t think I’ll be doing PR this coming weekend. I only did the PR in Rome last Saturday because it was …. in Rome! 😀 Couldn’t miss out, could I?

ForbiddenPlanet profile image
ForbiddenPlanetHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

You certainly couldn't miss out, after all, you went to roam! 🤣

Hopefully PR will be all the sweeter when you get back to it. 😀

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon

Ok, I enjoyed the video too! After 12 minutes she seemed to settle in and her breathing sounded really controlled at that point. There was wasn’t much traffic about and she clearly had a camera vehicle in front of her, so I had no safety concerns to divert me. I dread to think what I would look like in similar circumstances!🥵

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Beachcomber66

I thought that too BC. I found her breathing very rhythmic which is what I aim to do but never on a fast paced run! She did make it look so easy.

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cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

I just watched the video, chopping and frying onions! It was a nice distraction. 😀 It was lovely and I enjoyed her route. It had a few polite cars, but she pretty much had the road to herself. What a great video. Thanks for sharing IP 🙏🏻

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

My eyes are watering as I’m thinking of you chopping onions Munks 😹

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

😂😂😂

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon

Hi IP. I hope you're still getting some running in as well as watching videos 😊

I'm home again (yep, landed in those winds this morning 🙈) so I'm all out of hot weather excuses! Tomorrow is the last long run on my plan before the Monsal Trail HM on 2nd April. I have to say I don't feel ready for it - but then do I ever? At least I'm not carrying any injuries or niggles right now so I just need to get through the next two and a bit weeks (gulp, how did it come round so fast?). Tomorrow I plan to go slow, slow, slow!

Have a great week everyone 🥰

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I flew yesterday too and even though the wind nearly took me off my feet standing on the tarmac, the flight was very smooth! I think it depends on the flight paths.

It sounds as if you're on top running form Linda! No injuries or niggles. The Holy Grail of running 😍

Bring on that HM 💪

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Hope you've gone somewhere nice, with lovely running opportunities xxx

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I’m in Ireland for Mother’s Day and, given my achey shins from last week, decided not to bring my running kit. Weirdly, they are still “tingly” and I’m not running 🤔

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Oh how lovely 🥰Tingly sounds strange. Hopefully the rest will fix that fast though 🤞

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Maybe it’s just my feet 😂

Katnap profile image
KatnapMarathon

I get TRC on my YouTube feed and saw this video soon after it was published.

Like the recent MOTD issue with no commentary I was just left perplexed, fast forwarding every now and then because maybe I expected something to happen...

But how lovely to see car drivers being courteous and not bothered about sharing the road with non vehicle traffic. Completely unrealistic in many other countries to hope for similar driver habits. Makes you think why do we tolerate it?

🐱 Katnap 🐱

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Katnap

I don’t watch MOTD so can’t possibly comment but I can imagine it was a different programme than usual.

The vast majority of drivers on my narrow country roads are similarly courteous but then again it takes only one idiot…

Katnap profile image
KatnapMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

True!

Sandie1961 profile image
Sandie1961Half Marathon

Hi IP! Well I have to confess that, although I have packed my running kit for our month long tour of Spain and Portugal, I still haven’t been for a run. Days have been spent either on the road or visiting places, which admittedly gives me a very high step count on those days. Cordoba today, then Seville. We have booked a week on a beachside site at Cascais from Saturday, so I am thinking that’s the most likely time to pull on my running shoes. After RED February and with everything else to fill my time I can’t honestly say I’ve missed running, but I am looking forward to a seaside run. The weather here is glorious - sunshine, blue skies and low 20s. Gorgeous ☀️

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Sandie1961

Oh how gorgeous Sandie! That is perfect running weather in my book and I can’t wait for those temperatures here.

Make the most of it, as I’m sure you will, and let us see some nice photos of the sun please 😎

Sandie1961 profile image
Sandie1961Half Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

How about the view from our current campsite

View over olive groves
Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Sandie1961

Looks beautiful 😍

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon

I’m still hit and miss with my running. A migraine this weekend knocked out my long run and I really need a recovery day today after a pretty full on PT session yesterday. We did lots of running drills. So many varieties of lunges. Just when I thought my legs would get a rest from being on fire 🔥, there was another lunge thing to try! It was definitely good for me!

I’ve got the Forest of Dean HM on April 2nd and I’m feeling underprepared. I’m hoping to do ten or eleven slow miles tomorrow and then see where I am. At the moment, I’m feeling like I just want to to be over!

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CowladyrunningMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Eek I'm not up to that distance either! I'm sorry you had a migraine too, so annoying when they stop running. I started one yesterday, which I was very annoyed at, as I knew it was going to be a maybe and had done all the things to 'prevent' it.....but it still got me 😡 However it has gone today and they normally last a few days so maybe prevention stopped it being a long one? Don't worry about the half. Focus on doing it to have fun..... its a beautiful setting to enjoy 😉 We can do it 💪

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Cowladyrunning

Sorry about your migraine too-really hope it doesn’t come back. They’re so horrible! I’m feeling so much better about it today-thanks so much for your encouragement xxx

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Migraines can knock you off course for a while (I don’t suffer but I have friends who do) but it still sounds as if you have been keeping busy busy! Running drills, lunges! Good grief I’m tired just reading about it 🥵

I’m sure with all that strengthening work you will be more than ready to go for your HM. Just think of the atmosphere on the day and the bling 🤗

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks so much! I can’t quite believe what we did in an hour. Not feeling anywhere near as stiff as last time and have had a lovely head clearing walk in the sunshine. I love this forum for the support. Just when you’re about to hit blind panic mode, somebody lovely shows up to remind you you’ll be fine (and there’s going to be bling!!!)! ❤️

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Not feeling as stiff as last time is a good measure of how your body is getting used to the demands put on it, so that’s a positive sign.

Onwards and upwards and enjoy yourself along the way. And the bling of course 😍

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Ugh! Migraines are the WORST! Hope you're feeling better xxx

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Thanks! Much better now. Luckily they’re usually cured with a good night’s sleep and a quiet day the next day.

linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Guess what just happened to me this morning? 40 mintes before an eye test too, which I had obviously had to cancel 😞 Something in the air perhaps? 🙁

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

Oh no Linda ☹️ That’s weirdly coincidental. Hope it eases soon for you x

MissUnderstanding profile image
MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to linda9389

I read this an forgot to reply sorry! I think the change in weather has set a lot of us off. Of my friends that get migraines, all of us had them last week. Weird!

Really hope you’re feeling better xx

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linda9389AdministratorMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Oh, maybe! I wonder if the low sun us a trigger for me. I seem to get them around this time of year and again Sep/Oct. I do try to wear sunglasses whenever I'm out. This one though, I think it was purely down to stress the day before 🤷‍♀️

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RunBrianRunHalf Marathon

Hi IP Thank you for hosting this week. I’ve been away as you know and heading back to the U.K. later today. I am very tempted to stay, I must say, as the weather is gorgeous and the city is just beautiful. I have been quite lazy as, apart from a very short gym session, I have not done much except sleep, eat and a bit of sight seeing. Back to reality from tomorrow. Training has nose dived since the ankle injury but I’m still hopeful to run at the end of the month. Have a great week.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to RunBrianRun

You’ve had a proper break Brian which is what holidays are all about. It sounds wonderful and just what the ankle needed I’m sure.

Enjoy your run 🏃‍♂️

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over61andstilltrying10 Miles

Hello Irishprincess, I do hope that your running is going well. I have had to stop running, my knee isn't happy. I haven't made an appointment. I partly feel that I have had so many. Not sure how many runs to miss. I so want to run three times a week, but my knee is clearly saying no. So no it is. Physio exercises have been ongoing for nearly a year!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

🤞🤞🤞🤞 for you 🙂

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over61andstilltrying10 Miles in reply to Beachcomber66

Thank you Beachcomber. Physio, GP or ... but for the moment not one step at a time. 🙏 and enjoy the things that I can do, but not running. It seems both increased distance or increased pace are completely not allowed according to my knee. 😔

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

I would be beside myself by now! I have no idea, but having a liking for evidence, I think that I would be looking for an appropriate scan. If scans don’t give any answers I would default to my sports physio who finds a way of keeping me going. If she couldn’t do that (she has never failed!) I am sure that she would refer me to the right professional. I guess in times of uncertainty we seek out the people we trust.

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Oh no! I’m sorry to read this as you were doing so well and into a good routine.

But maybe this is the right time to see a physio especially when you were pain-free for so long and now it’s back again. Your physio would want to know that.

I’m on a running break for a week as I have achey shins. My back is fine but the shins are grumbling. Since I’ve never had a problem with shins before I’m taking a break to see if things settle down. There’s always something isn’t there?

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over61andstilltrying10 Miles in reply to Irishprincess

Oh boo! I wrote a long reply and lost it by being distracted by editing my previous reply.

I'll try and be brief. Thank you both Irishprincess and Beachcomber66

A scan would of course be so informative, physio said last November to make a further appointment if the pain got worse. So that is an option. I tried wearing my knee wrap with three pouches all duly heated on Sunday, so following in the theme of your hot water bottle suggestion BC. Felt lovely to wear it, but I found myself running in a lopsided manner with the aim of preventing discomfort by not putting any weight through my knee. Clearly not a viable way of running!

I shall have a think and a rest and decide a way forward when I feel ready.

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

Hope you find a solution 🤞

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over61andstilltrying10 Miles in reply to Irishprincess

Thank you 😊

And I do hope that your shins recover soon.

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to over61andstilltrying

I use the hot water bottle for 15 minutes or so prior to running and then massage the knee cap gently. Physio reckons it encourages the generation of synovial fluid. I forgot to do this before a recent run; my knee felt quite sore towards the end of the run and afterwards; so it clearly works for my knee anyway, provided I remember to do it!

I couldn’t run with anything wrapped around my knee. As you say, it would upset the balance.

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CowladyrunningMarathon

Hello IP, I did watch this after you recommended it to me and I know what you mean! Mesmerising! I did not google that ASMR though so thank you! I went on to watch their track speed challenge too (procrastinating about doing other jobs ooops) I had a pleasant run this morning as the wind had calmed down and it was very light early on. And I got a long run in on Sunday so feeling a bit happier about my readiness for the Forest of Dean half but also kicking myself for not keeping strength training going as I KNOW that's what has made a half a better race in the past! Oh well ... I think I'll adopt the goal I heard on the Women's running podcast- I'm going to get a pb in the most fun had on a race 😊😊😊

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Cowladyrunning

I’ve lived listening to Holly’s journey on Women’s Running because I feel like it’s been similar to mine with illness and injury. Just been listening to the Paris HM episode and feeling so much more positive. We got this! 🏃‍♀️💪❤️

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CowladyrunningMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Me too - all the sinus ear type things left over from covid.,.. I forget how many times I've said me too!! It was lovely that she achieved Paris wasn't it!

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MissUnderstandingHalf Marathon in reply to Cowladyrunning

I actually felt quite emotional! Perhaps because there’s been such a resonance with what’s been going on with me (too!!). It made me think “yeah-I’ve got this!” as I was marching around the deer park this afternoon!! Plus, the Runner’s World podcast this week is all about the benefits of run/walking and how it’s a positive choice to make, not a failure. How well timed is that?!!

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

As long as we get to where we want to go it doesn’t matter how we get there.

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CowladyrunningMarathon in reply to MissUnderstanding

Perfect timing... I'll download it now and listen!

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Cowladyrunning

Oh I love that! A PB for the most fun in a race! We should make that a “thing” here. Not sure how we’d measure it though.. the size of our grins 😃

I know what you mean about strength training though. I did loads for my last HM and it really helped keep my ITB at bay but I havent got back into a proper routine again. You’ve just reminded me that I really need to do that so thank you for the prompt 💪

The Forest of Dean will be a fab HM 😍

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CowladyrunningMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

You're welcome.... now I'll take heed too! Definitely size of grins a great idea!

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slow_runners

Hi IP. I am a bit slower in the beginning of this year. Around 6'50"/km in 12km or 15 km running. Aim to run faster gradually later on and make it faster than 6min/km.

Besides, post another runner's "predator" issue recently often happened on me, just for fun.

Since human can't outrun dog in short-distance running, "Method of using stick to beat a dog" still is a survival skill for runners. Sometimes runners face this dangerous situation: unleashed aggressive dogs like chasing you as they are chasing a big slow fat squirrel.

Now, the only problem after seriously thinking this mean-dog issue, is, don't have a stick on hand when running.

Have a good week, all.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to slow_runners

Luckily there’s always been an owner attached to any unleashed dogs I’ve encountered but even then the dogs can be scary. But an unleashed aggressive dog chasing you would be terrifying!

A friend of mine once went to a “runner’s retreat” abroad and they talked about dogs on runs and how to handle them. Apparently we shouldn’t wear black as it makes them more aggressive and we should stop running when faced with an aggressive dog. There was other advice but I can’t remember it now 🙂

Good luck with your goal 🍀

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CmoiMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Not long ago I was nipped by a very large farm dog while out running. I run past that farm every few weeks and the dog's seen me several times before. Getting nipped was entirely my own fault, because instead of slowing to a walk or stopping, and calmly greeting the dog as I usually do if it appears, I thought "Oh he knows me, it'll be fine" and continued running. That unsettled the dog, hence the nip.

I told the owner who was very apologetic. I also said I didn't want any harm to come to the dog - some people round here would put a bullet through a dog's head for that nip. I've run there again with no problems, not because the dog's been shot, or tied up, or beaten, but because I had the sense to react appropriately this time round.

Our dog is rarely on a leash. He's not aggressive but he's large and has a loud, deep bark that people can find intimidating. Were anyone to start hitting him with a stick I would also react appropriately...

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slow_runners in reply to Cmoi

The first rule of dealing with an aggressive dog as a runner is, don't try to frighten the dog or fight him if his owner looks stronger than you. And it's not a polite behavior, or not a very gentlemen's move if the owner is a lady. :)

Fighting with a dog always are the stupidest plan and worst scenario. Dogs have an advantage in reaction. You can't win without a cost, even you 'win', several bite wounds left in your body would be the most likely outcome. Not wise.

So if the owner seems not a strong guy and his dog is a leashed small size dog breed as a Chiwawa or small-size Teddy. An idea may arise from the normal insecurity feelings of human, "I can scare him away with a stick in hand"

lol. have a good day.

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CmoiMarathon in reply to slow_runners

I suspect you've completely misunderstood my reply.

As a 152cm 57kg female solo runner and dog-owner I will definitely not be using sticks to intimidate dogs, nor physically fighting their owners.

Enjoy your running.

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slow_runners in reply to Cmoi

Half the runners have experience of being chased or intimated by a snarling dog on road. I just hope everyone don't misjudge, and can handle the dangerous situation properly.

I was chased by the same two dogs twice in last running(run back and forth). That part of road had no light on at that night. The dogs just did their job. They were unleashed so they could jump up the road and run after passers-by. It would be a trouble for his owner if these dogs nipped anybody passed his gate. For he didn't keep his door closed and let the dogs roaming at road freely that night.

I had run on that road dozens of times. That was the first time these dogs brought me a "surprise". They barked, chased me about 100 meters (twice!) but didn't bite me. While I just kept running at that time listening to my music. (Pretended to)Totally ignore them! They are big dogs but I didn't konw which breed they are cuz it was dark.

Guess I was lucky. "A barking dog doesn't bite", two barking dogs, the same.

Stay sharp and enjoy your exercise. :)

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Cmoi

Eek a dog’s nip is quite painful. I’m sure that was a bit scary.

One of our neighbour’s dogs bit my husband a few years ago even though he knew her and had walked her on a few occasions! He had to get a tetanus. He could have called the police and they would have put the dog down but he made the decision not to as it was a one-off and we still had to live in the village!

But as I keep saying to the owners of dogs who jump up on me or snarl, “what would your dog do to a child?”

I did once run away with a dog and pretended to play with him and the owner was desperately trying to get him to return but he was having none of it as running with me was much more fun. That was hilarious 😂 (I did return the dog to its owner in the end)

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CmoiMarathon in reply to Irishprincess

I was wearing long sleeves so only a bit bruised, skin not broken. If the dog had gone for me I'd have been considerably more damaged, as it's a Pyrenean Mountain Dog which probably weighs more than I do!

However, it was my behaviour that triggered the nip. The dog was just doing its job, guarding a farm that opens directly onto the road - there's a bit of a ditch, but no hedges or gates. I should've used a bit of common sense, then I'd have been fine.

One Saturday evening on holiday a few years ago an unidentified dog followed us several km back to a campsite, despite our best efforts to dissuade it. The police told me to contact the local mayor. With Google's help I found his details and called him. He thanked me, said he'd contact the owner, and explained that the dog was left free to roam outside and this situation arose quite regularly.

The owner called me back, announcing that he was elderly and housebound. He then subjected me to a tirade of shouting, swearing and other abuse, and accused me of stealing the dog, before hanging up on me. When he called back I refused his demand that we make a 45-minute return trip in our motorhome to return the dog, which, incidentally, we'd attached on a long leash and provided with water and a couple of dog treats. Owner finally sent his sisters to collect the dog. Frankly he shouldn't have been allowed to keep it.

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Cmoi

I’m sure the doggy didn’t want to leave you!

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Irishprincess

Dog issues are complicated. Like Cmoi, I am a very experienced dog handler, used to big dogs, and in most situations I am pretty confident. Molly looks soft, and on most occasions she behaves that way, but OES were originally bred for guarding herds and driving cattle, so she is not a wimp! She has always responded to a quiet word; yelling at her just doesn’t work.

With encounters with strange dogs, I have found that keeping calm and not responding aggressively works in most situations. That said, a problem has developed locally over the last couple of months, caused entirely by a farmer’s decision to let his two fully grown alsatians loose on the farm. The farm has an unfenced boundary with a disused railway line. The line is used by many runners and walkers every day, and on a couple of occasions I have been faced with one of the dogs barking at me, having appeared ahead of me on the path. It just shouldn’t be there. I decided to keep running at the same pace and not even give it a glance; I felt that slowing off or speeding up might have implied fear. Fortunately my tactics have worked so far!🏃‍♂️🐕

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slow_runners in reply to Beachcomber66

You do know dogs. We adopted same tactics under similar situations. Luckily, I was not being chased by two pit bulls or mastiffs, kind of dogs that won't let you run away easily. Stay sharp and be safe.

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to slow_runners

I agree; the type of dog and breed behaviour have to be factored in. You can only make that assessment if you know a bit about large breeds. Even then having two dogs loose together alters the dynamic.That goes straight to the heart of the problem; some dogs just should not be left loose where they can come into contact with people.

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slow_runners in reply to slow_runners

That's very true. Also dogs are prone to be aggressive in dark environment. I run between 8:00-10:00 PM. Less traffic on road and silence makes a running enjoyable. But mean dogs would bark at or chase me when there's no street lamp or it doesn't work. Better to avoid the road without artificial light at night.

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to slow_runners

Good point. That said, this has been an issue for me on about 3 runs in the hundreds I have done, so I didn’t intend to make this into a big deal. Enjoy your running!🙂

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slow_runners in reply to Beachcomber66

lol.

Yes, It's really not a big deal for experienced runners. Would scare you when it happens though.

Pls again, allow me banter a bit here. Keep exercising and a runner will be fast enough one day. And at that moment, most dog breeds won't be posed as a threat to him. For he is stronger, faster, most importantly smarter than a sly rabbit or fox, and most pet dogs just aren't cut out for hounds in real world. In a word, an experienced runner has already got the edge when encouters a snarling dog.

Btw, lovely dog in your avatar. Have a good day. 😁

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Beachcomber66AdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to slow_runners

🙂 you have a good day too.

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FrencHalf Marathon

Hi IP! Well, this video was an excellent motivator to get me out and do my own 5k yesterday 😁. Not as fast, a few more hills, and no sea in sight, but it really did the trick. Thanks for posting! After injury I’m ecstatic to be back up to 5k - it took a while, I can tell you. In the long term, I’m hoping to build back up, but if it takes me all year, so be it. The nice thing about running these shorter distances is it’s easier to find time to fit them in, so yesterday was the first time ever I saw the sun go down during a run, which was just lovely. It always amazes me just how fast it disappears 🌅🌅🌅.

Sunset
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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Frenc

What a gorgeous photo Frenc. And sunsets are so fleeting which add to their poignancy I think.

I’m delighted to read that you’re back to 5K and I know exactly how you feel. That 5K distance is such a milestone in so many ways and it’s always thrilling to reach it again after a period off.

Enjoy the return and the sunsets 😍

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Sandraj39Half Marathon

Hi IP - I am very late to the party. After a fab run on Monday, I had planned to run again today but got bogged down with things at work and was late getting home! 🙄Annoyingly, not enough time to run now so it will have to wait until tomorrow.

Hilariously, I thought I’d check out Sarah’s video…and found myself nodding off!🤣🤣🤣 Clearly, it’s been a busy week! Hey ho - Friday tomorrow!🤣😴🥱😳

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IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to Sandraj39

Haha, you’re not alone in dozing off to the video Sandra. I read in the comments that the same thing happened to a few people. It’s the rhythmic noise of her feet and the absence of music and voice-over that does it….😴

Enjoy your run today 🏃‍♀️

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