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SkiMondayUltramarathon
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To prepare for this, I skipped my usual weekly runs so my last run was the HUHM 10k last Sunday.

My HM route is mostly downhill on the way out so I aimed to run the first half faster than the last. My plan was to aim for a pace of 5:50 on the way out and just to see what I could maintain on the way back.

Checked my pace for the first time after 100m or so and it was 4:43; I’ve never been very good at starting off slow. My splits for the first 10km varied between 5:20 and 5:58 (that’s ignoring the hill where it dropped to 6:00). For the latter half, my pace was around 6:15. It dropped to 7:22 for the 18th km where there’s a 40m climb. Average pace for the run was 6:01/km.

I think the hardest part is that which covers part of the Pomphrey Hill ParkRun course (although I don’t run up the hill because it’s too muddy for road shoes, I run up the grass close to it). The second hardest has to be the 40m climb up Mill Rd.

Having put in extra effort, I found this run hard going. I didn’t feel quite as worn out as I did after the 10k so maybe I could have put more effort in but I think I was close to my limit. Be interesting to see what I can do on a flat course! Anyhow, completed the HM in 2:07. I’m in awe of those who do most runs at this kind of effort.

It seems that if I put a lot of effort in like I did on this run, I can shave maybe a minute off the time that I can achieve with a moderate effort. With a more relaxed run, I add another 7 minutes or so. For now, think I’ll focus on doing my long runs at a moderate effort with a few relaxed runs thrown in. I’ve found that increasing cadence gives me a speed boost so I’ll experiment with that a bit. Hopefully, that will allow me to build speed and distance without blowing a fuse!

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linda9389 profile image
linda9389AdministratorMarathon

Fabulous, well thought out run! That's quite a pace for the first kilometre of a half marathon 😅. Definitely want to avoid blowing a fuse - happy (safe) experimenting

Sandraj39 profile image
Sandraj39Half Marathon

Well done on your HUHM - and a great time too!😀👏

AndrewJR75 profile image
AndrewJR75Half Marathon

That is a brilliant pace. I’d love to hit that over 5k regularly. Well done on a great run 👏👏👏

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon

So sort of negative negative splits 🤔🙂 Great time and a fab sounding run. Have fun.

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Irishprincess

Thanks IP. Unfortunately, I can't manage negative splits on this route: there's too much uphill on the 2nd half for that.

Irishprincess profile image
IrishprincessAdministratorHalf Marathon in reply to SkiMonday

Very impressive time regardless 💪

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CowladyrunningMarathon

You ran a fast HM! Very well done having the hills too ...lots of effort needed for them 👏👏👏

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon

Wow, awesome run SM! What a great pace. 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

Oh, and Pomphrey Hill PR is one for my list this summer - it’s my NENDY! See you there? 😀

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SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to cheekychipmunks

Cheers CC.

One of my recovery goals was to be able to do Pomphrey hill PR plus run there & back. That's now comfortably in range so I'm sure I'll be there. Friday afternoon is when we go to the Dining Room Arms so I'm not sure how I'm going to arrange it yet. Still, running with a mild hangover should be OK!

"NENDY"???

cheekychipmunks profile image
cheekychipmunksHalf Marathon in reply to SkiMonday

Nearest Event Not Done Yet! 😅

Stephen_UK profile image
Stephen_UKHalf Marathon

Well done, SM. That’s most impressive.

Katnap profile image
KatnapMarathon

When you do more training runs that are longer (in time and/or distance) then your HM times will improve. 👍

🐱 Katnap 🐱

Tasha99 profile image
Tasha99Marathon

Wow that’s amazing! Well done! I wish I could be bothered to put a fast effort in 🤣

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SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Tasha99

Cheers Tasha.

Likewise, I've done a few virtual HMs and I've just treated them as regular training runs so no additional effort (less pressure / stress).

Something inspired me to put the effort in for the HUHM runs although I did a long run two days before the 10k. As it turned out, the extra effort shaved about four minutes off my 10k time but only a minute or so off my HM time.

Somehow, I suspect that a long run two days before an event isn't the best way to prepare!

Anyhow, I'm dropping my long runs back to moderate / easy for a while now.

Tasha99 profile image
Tasha99Marathon in reply to SkiMonday

Mega well done though 😊

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon

Awesome race SM! Well planned out too! 👍🏼👍🏼👏👏

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SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Decker

Cheers Decker

Thinking about it, I usually do the first part of this route reasonably quick (probably because it's downhill). On previous runs that hasn't been the plan. With having planned to go out a bit quicker on this run, maybe that gave me some psychological boost for the second half of the run?

Decker profile image
DeckerUltramarathon in reply to SkiMonday

Yes that could be. I think the longer the run, the more our minds factor in.

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon

Impressive pace SkiMonday ! I sympathise with the climb at 18km. All I'll say is that I'd obviously taken leave of my senses when I planned my HM route 😬 🙄

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Cmoi

Thanks Cmoi, it does seem to take a lot of pace zapping effort!

Yep, 598m (with bunny ears) is a lot of climbing! Although a 208m climb (without bunny ears) is a fair bit for a 10k! By comparison, the total climb on my HM was 157m.

Even though you did a lot of climbing, you’ve trained for it and can obviously handle it so I don’t think your choice of route was that unreasonable.

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon in reply to SkiMonday

That's kind of you SkiMonday , thanks.

I run hills all the time, as it's not optional around here. This HM was emotionally-fuelled though, and I wanted to run some of my favourite tracks and roads, places that my late brother-in-law never got to see. So that's what I did - and in the process contrived to assemble a route that just kept going up and down. Funnily enough, in the toughest ascent - a delightfully symmetrical 81m over 1km, at 18km - "Defying gravity" came on the playlist!

Of course, the idiot in me is now wondering what might happen if I ran the same route without bunny ears and on a cooler day. 🙃

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Cmoi

State of mind certainly has a lot to do with running! Was your brother-in-law a runner?

There's only one way to find out how the route goes sans bunny ears...

Cmoi profile image
CmoiMarathon in reply to SkiMonday

No, my brother-in-law wasn't a runner - he was sporty, though, and particularly loved sailing. I think he'd find it utterly hilarious that I've taken up running. To be fair, I'm still trying to get my head round it myself! 🤣

Yes, that route is definitely calling me again. I'm also pondering at least one other even dafter route. Put it down to an unholy combination of "What if?" and stubbornness! 😈

And then there's my beloved forest too...

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to Cmoi

Sounds like a great place to run... if you can handle the hills! Doing all your running on hills might have something to do with that!

ScottJB profile image
ScottJB

Well done, that’s a great pace for a HM. I’m hoping to run a sub 1hr 10km, but doubt I’d be able to maintain that pace for a HM.

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to ScottJB

Thanks Scott. One of my goals is a sub 2hr HM. It's gradually edging closer but it seems to be taking a long time to get there.

I can definitely see a benefit in moderately paced runs: for me, they require much less effort, allow me to increase distance and deliver results close to what I get if I put in a lot more effort. I reckon that training runs at an easy pace feed into that.

One thing that might be worth you trying is to increase cadence. I found that it boosted my pace without me having to put in extra effort (although it felt like I was shuffling on the spot at first). I learnt that from post run coaching tips from the Map My Fitness app.

When discussing sub 2hr HMs, one of my colleagues pointed out that all I had to do was maintain my 5k pace. Not sure that was much help but it does seem that I'm gradually getting there so I reckon that, with training, you should be able to extend your 10k pace to an HM.

Somehow, this reply has turned out to be a lot longer than I intended!

ScottJB profile image
ScottJB in reply to SkiMonday

Thanks, good reply though. 😀. I manage to run 10km at my average 5km pace ok, so it doesn’t seem entirely impossible to maintain it for longer distances. Just going to keep trying to increase my longer run distance and see how I get on. Not paid too much attention to cadence before, but just looked over last few runs and I average 170 spm. Not sure if that’s any good.

SkiMonday profile image
SkiMondayUltramarathon in reply to ScottJB

I speeded up by increasing my cadence to what you're doing anyway so I don't know if a higher cadence would give you any more speed.

I'm planning on trying 180 spm to see how it goes...

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